bah, got greedy trying to go for double points. i still think my apocalypse version applies.
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bah, got greedy trying to go for double points. i still think my apocalypse version applies.
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Originally Posted by NooNoo
Objection. I think Noonoo is wrong. The balloon will tilt towards the INSIDE of the turn, and opposite the gravitational force. The balloon will tilt to the RIGHT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adept
I think noo's wrong anyway as after 4 re-reads I'm still unsure of her exact answer ;)
There goes my attempt to ingratiate me further into Noonoo's good graces. :p
We need someone to test this.
15 points to whoever posts conclusive proof one way or another. Pictures are even better. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
This should provide the information you are looking for.
:eek2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Deity
OK, so basically both the "official" answer and NooNoo's would be describing the same effect: the pull on the ballon's string and the reactions which follow.
Or is my cold medecine still clouding my judgement?
Oh yeah, 15 points to Deity. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif
Noo's explanation was correct, but the tilt would have been to the right, not the left. If the car was turning to the right, it would have tilted towards center of the turn, so to the right.Quote:
Originally Posted by a d e p t
Nil points to the Noo then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deity
I'll have to wait until I'm clear headed again to make a proper evaluation... even velcro is confusing me today.
Just be happy y'all aren't driving on the same highway I am tonight. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
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Originally Posted by a d e p t
Now if that isn't encouraging Googling for an answer, I don't know what is!
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Originally Posted by NooNoo
I beg to differ.. The car has momentum.. it's going forward... the car turns right.
The Ballon will want to continue to go straight as it's technicaly floating in the car.
Now, according to Newton's law of inertia..
The car is exerting a force to the right, the ballon is trying to go straight. The ballon, since it's not held in place (sideways), will begin to move to the left in relation to the car(trying to go straight). The string is tied to the moving car (going right). so in relation to gravity AND the car, it would tilt to the left.Quote:
"Every body continues in its state of rest, or of uniform motion in a right [straight] line, unless it is compelled to change that state by forces impressed upon it."
Edit: i was a little off in my physic's.. a little rusty.
Edit: Think more on it, since the car is also rotating to the right, the ballon would also tilt backwards ever so slightly. I will try to post some crude pics a little later
https://forums.windrivers.com/
Although I agree with Matridom on the science and the math, I am still trying to figure out what a Ballon is. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
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Originally Posted by TripleRLtd
French.
Ah, si' senor.
I get it now. I wish I knew how to speak French. I don't really know why, but...
That was my thoughts at first until I read Deity's link http://www.df.uba.ar/users/sgil/phys...an/centri2.pdf (its a .pdf file) and it says different .Quote:
Originally Posted by Matridom
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Originally Posted by GrandDad
I see. In that paper, it has to do with air pressure, in the rotation, the pressure increases on the left of the vehical.. so the balloon travels to the less dense air, in the interior side of the cirlce.
That was my mistake, i took my theory into account in the absence of air pressure.
Deity.. kudos on that one.