Sorry to be so much ignorant. Why cant I just upgrade from Win 98 to 98SE without doing a total format? My system is just fine but I would like to use the ICS.
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Sorry to be so much ignorant. Why cant I just upgrade from Win 98 to 98SE without doing a total format? My system is just fine but I would like to use the ICS.
I have built roughly 20 computers since SE released and installed it on all of them with no problems. Architecture runs from mainly Asus or Impression boards, WD HDD, Celerons, K62's, P2's & P3's and have not had one problem. I don't use Cyrix, so I don't know about them. All new features in SE work properly and the ISC works nice and quick. Actually using here in my Cafe. Everything running smooth here. Don't really see the gripe, things just got better here.
Hi all,
now for a Win98 SE success story! (bout time, eh?)
Just installed SE (on a dual boot Win2000) on my P2-450 @ 502, 256 meg ram, ASUS P2B-D mainboard, Viper v550 AGP video, AB AWE32, Realtek Ethernet card,Adaptec 2940 U2W SCSI card, USR 56k Modem, 10.2 gig Western digital IDE (Win98), 4.3 gig IBM SCSI3 (win2000).
And believe it or not, i upgraded from Win98 4.10.1998 and everything works like a dream. NO! im not kidding =)
I've read Darren's posts about the internet connection sharing not working... but mine does
I have a 3 PC network in my home - a Gateway 486/66 (i actually installed SE on that too and it works like a charm.. unbelievable right?), and a AMD K6-300 (win98 4.10.1998)machine
All 3 computers have IE5 installed and can share my internet access from my P2-450.
Here's how i did it:
First of all I have my network set up using TCP/IP on all machines (used WinProxy to share internet before), so the host machine's IP addy was 192.168.0.1 (generic default network IP), my other 486 and K6 machines were 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3 respectively. Now here's the kicker, you have to set the client machines to automatically get an IP address from the internet server computer. To do this it is under Network Properties.. just set the IP address for the TCP/IP for the network adapter to AUTOMATIC instead of manual with the 192.168.0.2 stuff. Reboot the machines when it asks you to and BOOM! worked like a charm. Yes it works with IE, Netscape, ICQ, and AOL.
Well I hope this works for some of you... If not then i guess WinProxy will have to do for the time being (until Win2000 comes out).
Good Luck!
Oops almost forgot.. I actually used the Windows Help feature, in case some of you might not have checked that...
it explains the TCP/IP stuff better than me..
Ha Ha!
I can only suggest one thing:
DON'T USE WINDOWS!
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Or at least not as much https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2000/09/1.gif
I've given up on windows, use it for games only now. Instead I run Redhat 6.0 Linux which has all the programs I need and is a lot more stable.
By the way, I don't think I've ever installed Windows 98 without at least one hard restart.
I'm running win98se on my P-II 450MHz, 128SDRAM, 13GB Quantum Firewall with no problems. It found all my hardware (NIC, Sound, Monster 3D II, USB Webcam, USB Zip Drive) and installed them perfectly. I also an a beta tester for MS... and win2k is going to rock. I ran win2k beta3 build 2031 for four weeks and then it crashed. Compare that to win98 OEM crashing 3 times on the day of installment.
Is there any reason to do this upgrade for the ICS?
I am currently using a very old computer as my router/modem sharing device, and have my Windows 95, Windows 98, Linux and Mac systems connected and sharing the dialup. My router/modem sharing device is a 486 w/8MB Ram....No HARD DRIVE.
I am running Linux on a single Floppy. If the router stops working I simply press reset. There is no keyboard or monitor connected to my router, just Ethernet, modem, and power. No PROBLEMS. Been stable for the last 6 months.
And now for another successs story. I have installed Win98SE on 2 machines here at my shop, both using clean installs. After viewing Darren's origional posting about ICS, I was a little worried about it's reliability. The machines were both Celeron 366 with an Acer MX3L MB and 64Mb RAM. They were clean installs and they went flawlessly. After setting up a peer-2-peer network, I installed a modem and tried ICS. Flawless. Worked every shot, and seemed quite reliable. I connected a machine to the network that was running Win95C with IE4, and set IE4 to use the ICS. Flawless. Upon my success here, I took it home and installed it on my 2 user peer-2-peer network. One machine is a HP P200MMX, the other a Celeron 300A with an Acer AX6BC MB. I was using Wingate 3 to share my cable modem. I upgraded both machines to Win98SE from Win98, and it still went flawless. Now, I have good reliable connections and don't have the third party software (WINGATE) using up valuable resources. I also previously had a problem on Win98 where my machine would lose resources, as if there was a memory leak somewhere, but Win98SE seems to have cleared that. It's only been a few days that it's installed, but all is clear on this end.
Hey Jeffy, I would love to see what you have on that floppy! I have an old P90(being used as a monitor stand) that I would love to set up as a router type device.
To stay on topic, I am preparing to start installing SE on several systems tonight.
Wish me luck! (probably won't need it though, I never had any problems installing 98 in the first place (or any of the 100+ times after https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2000/04/1.gif )
RE Windows 98 SE
I have installed it By Upgrading from the Standard 98 and it's fine
I would go as far as saying that it seems more stable than 98 ever was
But in Darrens Defence i have seen other installs which Refuse to play at all especially the ICS
Spec PIII450, 192MB, ASUS P2B
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Just found this site, haven't registered yet, but probably will.
Anyway, I thought I'd share my system specs I am using to run Win98 SE. I did a clean install and have had no problems. I've played games such as Commandos, NHL99, TA, Starcraft, ran various apps, burned CDs with Adaptec Easy CD Creater, and have yet to experience a single crash, blue screen, etc.
I've been running SE builds for months now, and have been using the final for about 2 weeks. I even had good experiences with the betas. (a few crashes with the earlier builds but no major incompatibilities) One thing I have noticed with SE which I don't believe happened with 98 was just after Explorer loads up after booting, Windows seems to continue loading something for about 4-5 seconds. (the cursor remains an hour glass longer than normal)
I checked the registry to see if anything out of the ordinary was loading but there wasn't. This happens with no additional software installed. A little odd but no big deal.
Anyway, here's my HW:
Abit BH6 MB w/P2-400
128MB PC100 SDRAM
ATI Rage 128 Magnum
Adaptec 2940UW
Seagate Cheetah 4.3GB
Plextor 32X SCSI
HP 7570 CDR (IDE)
SB Live Value
3COM Etherlink XL 10/100
I will testing the ICS on another PC to see how that goes. I'll post my findings.
Just finished upgrading my 2 home computers.
My Pentium III really experienced a speed boost. The overall feel of the computer is much improved. I had none of the errors mentioned on the above posts. Everything went very smoothly including the Internet sharing which seems much more responsive than my WINGATE software.
My Pentium I - 200 really did not experience much change. However, it also installed smoothly.
So far very pleased with this release.
My advise to people who are having problems is doing a complete new installation by removing all unnecessary cards except video and install WIN98 SE clean. Then add the cards one at a time. Works almost 99% of the time.
I am a Computer Tech in a small store, and have installed Win98 SE on several machines the last couple of days. I haven't had the time to try out the new Modem sharing feature, but I haven't had any unusual problems with running this update version. I have really not had much problem to speak of with Win98 in general, not the original release, or this 2nd Edition.
I have to question, a little, some peoples methods of setting up a machine. Most problems I have found with computers, as a repair person, are user error. Sure, I have witness my share of strange things with Windows, it is not a perfect OS. But, I have to say in my experiance, this OS delivers fairly well what it is supposed to.
I don't think Windows is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but its got the support that none other can boast. The only thing that comes close in my mind is Mac. I wonder why some people bang there heads as they do with, and about Windows. Maybe some people need to go Mac, if they can't handle PC. Why do some people thrash on Windows so bad, but continue to use it? Get something else if you hate it so bad.
Please don't respond to this post by talking about how Microsoft does this and that to crush the compitition, they are like any buisness that tries to be number one. They didn't invent there methods or tactics. Buisness is WAR, go play in someone elses sand box if you don't like sand kicked in your face.
The problems some people have, are not always related to Windows, but that is always what recieves the blame. There is a whole host of poorly written programs, and marginal hardware out there.
Maybe one day Windows will be so fool proof, that we can all bitch about something else. But then I guess I will have to find another job, cause then I won't be fixing YOUR Computers anymore https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2000/09/1.gif
Lighten up folks. If only everything we own was perfect. Then we could all sit around in Nirvana, and we would all be jobless.
For the MS bashers...
Using other OSs is fine and dandy, I'm trying Caldera myself, but if you are in this as a tech or business, most of what you deal with is 95\98\NT, you have to be able to resolve the problems. I can't just say to the company I work for, tough luck - switch to Linux on your 700 pcs if you don't like the problems, too bad if none of your apps will work...
I have to figure out the problems and fix them, it's my job.
[This message has been edited by JeanneD (edited June 12, 1999).]
I laugh in the face of all people who still use Intel or Microsoft stuff.
WHA HAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Keep on wasting your money. Get a real operating system that works:
It's called: UNIX.
It's beyond me why people waste their money.
Another point: When Microsoft acquired HOTMAIL, it was UNIX driven. Microsoft ported it to NT, but NT couldn't handle it and it crashed 99.99999999999999% of the time. They had to go back to UNIX. I'm sure Microsoft wanted everyone to know this.
Also, Y2K under UNIX...no problems! Could someone explain what is Y2K again for those of us who don't use a compliant os and why Microsoft and Intel products are such a waste of time and money?
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NT tries to do everything UNIX does, but fails.