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Oh, and more to that: you say thin proofs, thin is in the eye of the beholder. What do you need, Saddam to admit and present his own proof that the terrorist attacks were planned and funded by his hand? If he were alive, he would never publicly state that. Everything else we have is undisputed evidence. That along with the dictatorship atrocities that have been blanketing the news, I think you should open your eyes to that as well. We have an opportunity to help the people of Iraq, and fulfill the demolition of terrorist funding and weapons source. It is a win-win situation in the end...which hopefully will be soon.

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Originally posted by Drone 2903
I would like you to understand that the US (or should I say Bush jr ) went to war on very thin "proofs".
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Originally posted by Ya_know

See I can't help but find fault in your statement here. What the F- makes you think George Bush is a bully, and went to war on his own accord? This entire conflict has been brewing for so many months (actually years since 91), and for many real reasons. It is ridiculous to assume that Bush woke up one day and said, honey, I am going to invade Iraq. But to make a statement like yours, or the one where protesters claim that this war has something to do with oil, presents this simple-minded belief.

This war is the product of careful calculation and determinations of so many thousands of men and women in the governments we elected. The go ahead plans have been foolproofed to produce a fast, unquestionable victory, with minimal civilian and coalition casualties. This isn’t a weekend card game…

Do you see what I so contradict your statements, they really seem poorly thought out?

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I have no doubt about the planning, calculation and determination by the thousands involved, once Bush said "lets go".

what I said was : I would like you to understand that the US (or should I say Bush jr ) went to war on very thin "proofs".

As to Bush going on his own, I think it is also the UN's opinion.

But it is all academic now, I just wish for a quick end whit the minimum casualtys on all sides, as opposed to the "open season" suggested before.
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Originally posted by silencio
What about the Klingons?

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LIES!!! The Klingon people are a peaceful race, unlike you warlike humans!!!

* looks around *

Put the Genesis device away before someone sees it, Lt. Kook!!

* runs off camera, knife drawn *

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Originally posted by Drone2903
I have no doubt about the planning, calculation and determination by the thousands involved, once Bush said "lets go".
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You did it again; the decision was based on the calculations and determinations of many good men and women. Bush was just the last man in the chain to make the final decision, but it was made based on the evidence presented.

This is not one man's battle, despite the way this gets depicted in the press...realize that, and you will understand what this is all about…

Can I just say that the whole 'Bush Jr.' thing is getting a little annoying. It is not 'Bush Jr.' First of all, he's not even a Junior. His father is George H. W. Bush, he is George W. Bush. No Jr. Second of all, this is not a Bush decision, it is a US decision. No matter how many protestors b**** about "Not in our name!", the fact of the matter is that an overwhelming majority of Americans support the action, not to mention all of our allies.

And I'd also like to say that I have no plans to ever say a Polish joke again in my life knowing that the Polish Army has risked their brave soldiers along side the American, British and Austrailian troops. Please feel free to let me know of any other countries that have their men and women in their too, I support ALL of them, not just ours. :D

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Originally posted by ilovetheusers
Hey - here's a neet question. If starfleet had to fight a war against the klingons, would people protest that?

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Only the people who believed that the Klingons were a quite race of monks never doing harm and didn't have a Genesis machine. :knife:

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Originally posted by silencio
Only the people who believed that the Klingons were a quite race of monks never doing harm and didn't have a Genesis machine. :knife:

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And you believe that? Well, you're obviously a racist and misinformed about them. They are a noble race and all of the races under them we slaves, well it's a part of their culture and who are we to want to change them? Oh, and WE MADE THE GENESIS DEVICE!!!! Not them!!! I hope they us it and teach us a lesson. :mad: :mad: :mad:








:rolleyes: ;)

And what about those Romulans?!? Huh?!? You think the political system is so bad over here... you should try living on the Romulan Homeworld for a while!! Let me tell you.. it ain't no fun!! No Sir!! I'll never go back there again! :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

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Originally posted by ilovetheusers
And you believe that? Well, you're obviously a racist and misinformed about them. They are a noble race and all of the races under them we slaves, well it's a part of their culture and who are we to want to change them? Oh, and WE MADE THE GENESIS DEVICE!!!! Not them!!! I hope they us it and teach us a lesson. :mad: :mad: :mad:








:rolleyes: ;)

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/me is LMAO :D

Don't forget the Cardassians, them members of the Obsidian Order are lunies! And lest we forget those Psychlo's were a crazy lot! Thank goodness for Jonnie Goodboy Tyler taking the initiative! :D

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Originally posted by Wayward Clam
Okay, I'm gonna save a bunch of you a lot of time by turning myself in and going quietly. That's right, I am a human being who is opposed to the war,...

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Hey Clam,... I do understand that you're opposed to the war, and I've read most of the posts in this topic. Can somebody please explain to me what the alternative to war would be? I always hear people saying they oppose the war, but never offer an alternative choice.

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Originally posted by meatwad
Second of all, this is not a Bush decision, it is a US decision. No matter how many protestors b**** about "Not in our name!", the fact of the matter is that an overwhelming majority of Americans support the action, not to mention all of our allies.

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Also don't forget that Congress authorized the "use of force" against Iraq.

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Originally posted by Diver01
And what about those Romulans?!? Huh?!? You think the political system is so bad over here... you should try living on the Romulan Homeworld for a while!! Let me tell you.. it ain't no fun!! No Sir!! I'll never go back there again! :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

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Lieutenant!!! Bring the Decapitator about and set course for Romulus!!! I have a perfect place to put this Genesis device!!!

:flames: :flames: :flames:

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Originally posted by Ya_know
I actually have read the US Constitution twice in my life. If you think reading it is the best way to understand it, you are wrong. It is and will always be a living and breathing document, open to various interpretations and amendments. That is what democracy is all about. A governing body working for the better good of all of the people under its protection. Iraq’s government doesn't offer that, and we are there to put an end to it once and for all.

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Unfortuantely, the US was intended as a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. Read the Federalist Papers, you'll find that the Founders had a strong opinion of how democracy (rule by the majority rather than by law) doesn't work.

And don't get me started ont hte "governing body" part...I have yet to see any government comprised of politicians that's NOT looking out for their own self-interests. The concept of Government by Representation goes out the door as soon as they step into office, to be replaced by Government by Greed.

And perhaps everything after the Bill of Rights was intended to be "living and breathing"; but it's MY opinion that the first ten Amendments should have been etched in stone; I want no part of a "democracy" where the majority can deem any of my rights null-and-void.

Rant mode off, let the flames begin! :D

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Originally posted by paraflyer
Unfortuantely, the US was intended as a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. Read the Federalist Papers, you'll find that the Founders had a strong opinion of how democracy (rule by the majority rather than by law) doesn't work.

And don't get me started ont hte "governing body" part...I have yet to see any government comprised of politicians that's NOT looking out for their own self-interests. The concept of Government by Representation goes out the door as soon as they step into office, to be replaced by Government by Greed.

And perhaps everything after the Bill of Rights was intended to be "living and breathing"; but it's MY opinion that the first ten Amendments should have been etched in stone; I want no part of a "democracy" where the majority can deem any of my rights null-and-void.

Rant mode off, let the flames begin! :D

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Hey, you are absolutely right, I agree with everything you said! But, our government still beats what they had over in Iraq. What they will be able to build over the course of the next decade will be worlds apart from the life they live now. Yes, there is corruption in government, but more and more whistle blowers are being noticed here in the USA, and corruption is being shutdown some. That is not to say that all corruption will go away when one person gets busted, but it will have an impact. Until something better comes along, I will take the Republic United States of America any day!