Best jabs at the convention

Ya Bush does remind me of Nixon !!

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Originally Posted by techs

That was beautiful.

and Zil I am still waiting for any link explaining exactly what he voted against. Seems NO ONE ever has one. Because if you knew the true story it would show he voted against the second bill after Bush went back on his word.
So I am waiting.

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Here ya go:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/P..._040319-1.html

From Kerry's own mouth:

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Asked if he would vote against the $87 billion if his amendment did not pass, Kerry said, "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and running. That's irresponsible."

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Bonus:
Fellow Democrat Joe Liebermann had to say about it:

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"In a Democratic presidential debate, Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., who also voted for the funding, said, "I don't know how John Kerry and John Edwards can say they supported the war but then opposed the funding for the troops who went to fight the war that the resolution that they supported authorized."

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Regardless of tax cuts are removed or whatever, that doesn't excuse any "protest" vote which would not help our troops over in Iraq/Afghanistan.

The fact is, Kerry's vote against this bill is on the record. You can give all the reasons and excuses for this and that, but the man voted it down.

I thought I would have to show you some links but it is right there.

On the Sept. 14, 2003, edition of CBS's Face the Nation, Kerry spoke at length about an amendment he and Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., were offering which would have paid for the $87 billion by delaying some of the recent tax cuts

Kerry argued that his amendment offered a way to do it properly, "but I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our troops ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves. We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."

At the time of the October 2003 vote, "The nation had four months before funds were needed but Republicans were hell-bent on moving this bill through as quickly as possible, before the tough questions could be asked and the president's failures would be discovered,"

So with 4 months to go and the President rushing the vote before the facts were known and the bill overwhelmingly certain of passing Kerry did an extremely brave thing. He protested the rush to war without all the facts. He knew the vote would pass (in fact it did overwhelmingly).
And guess what? He was 100 percent right that we needed more info and that the President was rushing us to war.

Joe Lieberman? Your "quote" had no link but I seem to recall Joe was running against Kerry at the time. And Joe is at the conventions supporting the heroic and correct John Kerry.

Talk about toughness. Way to go Kerry.
Wisdom and toughness.

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Originally Posted by techs

I thought I would have to show you some links but it is right there.

On the Sept. 14, 2003, edition of CBS's Face the Nation, Kerry spoke at length about an amendment he and Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., were offering which would have paid for the $87 billion by delaying some of the recent tax cuts

Kerry argued that his amendment offered a way to do it properly, "but I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our troops ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves. We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."

At the time of the October 2003 vote, "The nation had four months before funds were needed but Republicans were hell-bent on moving this bill through as quickly as possible, before the tough questions could be asked and the president's failures would be discovered,"

So with 4 months to go and the President rushing the vote before the facts were known and the bill overwhelmingly certain of passing Kerry did an extremely brave thing. He protested the rush to war without all the facts. He knew the vote would pass (in fact it did overwhelmingly).
And guess what? He was 100 percent right that we needed more info and that the President was rushing us to war.

Joe Lieberman? Your "quote" had no link but I seem to recall Joe was running against Kerry at the time. And Joe is at the conventions supporting the heroic and correct John Kerry.

Talk about toughness. Way to go Kerry.
Wisdom and toughness.

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Again, more excuses blaming the Republicans for Mr. Kerry basically wasting his vote.

The right thing to do would be to vote (regardless of the cost) to fund anything that would help our troops in battle. PERIOD

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Originally Posted by Zil

Again, more excuses blaming the Republicans for Mr. Kerry basically wasting his vote.

The right thing to do would be to vote (regardless of the cost) to fund anything that would help our troops in battle. PERIOD

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With the President and both Houses of Congress Republican there is absolutely no excuse.
check this out:
"When it comes to choosing a president, results matter," Bush said in excerpts of his new stump speech obtained by The Associated Press.

Why that would be you George Bush. So you are responsible for the troops not having lifesaving equipment.
Results matter. You're right.

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Originally Posted by techs

With the President and both Houses of Congress Republican there is absolutely no excuse.
check this out:
"When it comes to choosing a president, results matter," Bush said in excerpts of his new stump speech obtained by The Associated Press.

Why that would be you George Bush. So you are responsible for the troops not having lifesaving equipment.
Results matter. You're right.

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And now they have it, no thanks to your candidate.

And again, you blame Bush! Look at your own candidate and his stupid voting record!!!!


EDIT: Your candidate gave a very good speech tonite, kudos.

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Originally Posted by Zil

Again, more excuses blaming the Republicans for Mr. Kerry basically wasting his vote.

The right thing to do would be to vote (regardless of the cost) to fund anything that would help our troops in battle. PERIOD

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You mean like all of our libertarians wasting their votes on conscience?

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Originally Posted by Cleetus

You mean like all of our libertarians wasting their votes on conscience?

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I didn't know we had elected a US Senator??? :confused: Kewl... :cool: :thumbs: :thumbs: But who is he/she? :confused: ;)

John Kerry jabs at the administration:

"I will be a commander in chief who will never mislead us into war. I will have a vice president who will not conduct secret meetings with polluters to rewrite our environmental laws. I will have a secretary of Defense who will listen to the best advice of our military leaders. And I will appoint an Attorney General who actually upholds the Constitution of the United States."

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I just want to see my name as the last poster in ever thread in Politicos.