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And your opinion is disgusting in that it accepts something so nasty as anal sex. Intolerance is not the issue here, my decision simply clashes with yours, and you simply can’t be a man about this. When you grow up, perhaps then you and I can have a civil, informative discussion, until the, maybe this thread should be closed.
Hey Clam, you asked for his opinion, and you got it. It doesn't matter wether you like it or not.
When you look at the reason for this thread, it is still wrong for the government to censor the bible, cause they think it has hate speech. These same feeling that the govt is wrong for doing so, also protect him for saying exactly what he is saying.
Also, look back at what you are telling him, and relate that to the problems of the far left, liberals, whatever. They have become so militant in their feelings of equality, political correctness, and openness; they have in turn shown a fervor that borders on worse than the intolerance that they attack.
You asked for an opinion, disagreed and are now asking for the thread to be closed. Is that not the exact same mentality that you are attacking him for having, right or wrong?
Yours is overly liberal, and a dangerous thing.Quote:
Originally posted by Wayward Clam
Ya_Know... your opinion is the epitome of ignorance and intolerance.
So you can admit this is abnormal, but want to reference animal in the wild to justify it? We are a society of people, I will not be compared with a dolphin, I don't care how many hoops it can jump through. Or monkeys, or bugs.Quote:
Yes, the human body was not designed for homosexual intercourse. However, as has been proven, it happens in all sorts of other animals who were also not designed for sexual intercourse.
No kidding, it is called dexterity and intelligence.Quote:
Also, the human body was not designed to use computers, fly airplanes, bungee jump, twirl batons, or do the Macarena. Should we ban all of these things because we invented them and get some pleasure from them?
The same holds true with drugs, cigarettes, and normal sex. But that is a part of being a parent, you have to know your children before you can ask them not to make wrong decisions.Quote:
Telling children not to experiment with homosexuality will have the same result as telling them not to experiment with sex in general. It will merely make them hide it from you.
I cannot change my thinking just because you think I am intolerant. If you have a valid point here, I would love to know what it is...Quote:
I can respect anybody who is gay and who advocates tolerating gays and accepts people who experiment with being gay.
I can NOT accept willfully intolerant a$$es like yourself.
THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT CENSORING THE BIBLE!!!!!!!
Read the Fing article again. They ruled that the ad the guy posted was anti-gay and hateful. Not the bible itself.
WTF you guys, the Mounties are lining out passages in the bible?
This guy just used maybe 50 words out of a 1000page (?) book to make his point which had hateful intentions.
Im sure if you looked hard enough you could find some quotes to support any half-brained idea or opinion. Its a pretty big book.
And why does it seem out of such a big book fanatics always reference like 20-50 words and they become sooo damn important.
Once again.....
THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT CENSORING THE BIBLE!!!!!!!
If they made it illeagal to sell, own, or possess = Censorship
If they removed from librarys/hotels = Censorship
If they edited passages they didnt like = Censorship
You can read your book all you want just dont use it to promote hate!
End of Rant
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Once again, I apologize for getting back into this, but I just could not resist this statement.Quote:
Originally posted by Wayward Clam
...I can NOT accept willfully intolerant a$$es like yourself...
Strong words. So being intolerant to those who disagree is deemed open-minded, accepting of others and tolerant of differences now?
Come on Clam, even you must concur that your opinions have a personal importance to you (as clearly demonstrated), just like almost everyone else in here.
It's easy to be tolerant of those who agree with you.
Why not try to extend the curtesy to those who hold an opposite point of view?
I've never seen you react this illogically and would tend to think something else is bothering you. Your vitriolic stance against those who disagree that homosexuality is natural or normal is downright strange and borders on fanaticism. What's wrong? :confused:
BTW, can you not shut down this thread on your own, having started it?
Kids... don't make me pull this car over!
Obviously from reading this NOVEL of a thread, you both disagree and you aren't moving on your opinions.
Beautiful!
I respect you both for having such firm beliefs and sticking to them. I think you both need to accept your differences and agree to disagree - and take the room tempurature down a few levels. Let's not degrade into shouting matches. Those never do anything but cause people to put their walls up and dig in even deeper.
Just say what you think and then back up what you think. An arguement made and backed up with "just because" doesn't have a leg to stand on. There's always deeper reasons why you think what you think. I think this is an awesome thread because it's gone "deeper" than anything I've ever read online.
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I know what is wrong. Clam has been after me for months, a thread here a thread there. I must have pissed him off somewhere, and he has yet to let it go. I just wish I could remember what it was. I wonder if he even knows. I left this thread when I felt that he was personally attacking me, and not my belief or my discussion. It was at the request of others that I came back in to refresh my opinion.Quote:
Originally posted by a d e p t
I've never seen you react this illogically and would tend to think something else is bothering you. Your vitriolic stance against those who disagree that homosexuality is natural or normal is downright strange and borders on fanaticism. What's wrong? :confused:
Clam, truce brother. What ever it was, I am sorry that I did it.
I do not think that closing this thread is a good idea. It has explored some interesting view points. I think if the author of the thread really does wish it to begone from his sight, he could either pm me or delete it himself. Locking this thread will just spawn other little threadlets.
NooNoo, if this were a gay thread, it wouldn't spawn little threads.
It would adopt other little threadlets!
ROLFMAO!!! :D :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by drewmaztech
NooNoo, if this were a gay thread, it wouldn't spawn little threads.
It would adopt other little threadlets!
Yeah, that was pretty damn funny! :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by Cobra Tha Funky Homo Sapien
ROLFMAO!!! :D :D :D
Homosexuality is a perversion of the human form. (Definition: A sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant.). I don’t need God or a bible to tell me this. It goes against the natural practice of sexual intercourse.Quote:
Originally posted by Ya_know
This is what I thought you were going to say. It's always the sex part that gets people hung up. Odd that guys rarely get hung up by 2 girls doing things...
This is not a race, gender or religious debate, bottom line it is a perverted sexual practice that should have remained behind closed doors where society is not burdened to accept it. I wont get into your business if you are consenting and in private. But if it comes out in public it becomes a social problem.
I don't agree. If 2 guys or girls hold hands or kiss in public it's not wilting the flowers and causing your eyes to immolate. If this really bugs you I note you are a prejudiced individual. If you want to live that way or think that way, however, I support your right to do so. I'm not going to shun you for it but I don't agree with your point of view.
The problem I have with acceptance is that it makes things seem OK for people to experiment with something they shouldn’t. I can see kinky sex, but for me I draw the line at anything disgusting and (at risk of being edited, Please let this stay on record) I stay out of the anus with the opposite sex. The penis doesn’t belong in anyone’s ****. ILTU As for “homosexuals” that don’t have sex, well, they really aren’t homosexuals now are they!?! Sounds like they chose the right path.
It's always this hangup with the rear end. If you don't like that then don't do it yourself but don't condemn others for it. Personally I and most of my girlfriends (ex GF's that is) would respectfully disagree and state that you are missing out... :rolleyes:
The 2 gay guys I am referring to are pretty darn gay, they just don't do that thing or the other thing. They are very homosexual because they love each other. The sex is an extranious thing.
As for acceptance - tolerance is something we need to strive to acheive in a multicultural society. It's hard to be tolerent of foreign ideas or beliefs but if they don't have a negative impact upon you or others then I say that having an issue with it is a problem with the individuals who dislike it rather than those who engage in it.
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I think were I am failing here most in my argument is that I can’t prove in anyway that this effects me in a negative way, because quite frankly, what I see as negative, you, and a large portion of society have accepted as normal.Quote:
Originally posted by ilovetheusers
As for acceptance - tolerance is something we need to strive to acheive in a multicultural society. It's hard to be tolerent of foreign ideas or beliefs but if they don't have a negative impact upon you or others then I say that having an issue with it is a problem with the individuals who dislike it rather than those who engage in it.
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I did get hit on once by a man in a pool hall and didn’t know it right away…but it only took a few minutes to realize that it was a Gay night. I was a little upset, because on a Saturday or Sunday I could shoot pool all night as a heterosexual man, but on that Thursday night anyone that saw me there thought I was Gay, and sized me up. There was no sign, or flyer telling me this, I just went in for a drink and was exposed unwittingly. I had to leave because I won’t be a part of that environment.
I didn’t want that in my life ever, and found myself there in the middle. I don’t want my kids to have to witness this stuff when they are old enough to go out. I don’t want them to have friends talk them into trying stuff that they might accept as normal, because society has left the front door unlocked and swung wide open. It isn’t fair to them to live a life in this phony land of acceptance.
Call me old fashion, but most certainly don’t call me intolerant. I have been forced by society to tolerate this for far to long, and I am sick of the farce.
Not if they were forced into being normal ;) :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by drewmaztech
NooNoo, if this were a gay thread, it wouldn't spawn little threads.
It would adopt other little threadlets!