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Does anyone have tips on how to get mucho influence?

I pretty much spent everything I had yesterday on only 3 DOs. :(


I can't wait to get Stalemate into the 20's so he can actually start to do something other then get beat up and run out of endurance.

All good suggestions.

I definately have to play tonight. Sounds like I'm starting to fall behind a bit.

Need more XP and influence points.

More.



MORE!!

Going in now. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

That was not a bad evening, once Wrrby and i n e p t showed up. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

Yeah. It was pretty cool. Play for about 3-4 hours and got zero xp,.. but it was fun. :D

No XP at all?

Even I got a bar and a half. :confused:


It was great though, once the action started up a bit. Did you guys finish late after I left?

I thin inept went up a level also.



ILTU: How did the Task Force go? Any details/tips/comments? https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

I got on too late last night, so I just putted around IP with Buzz's SG. I only got to play for about an hour anyway. I did level though. :thumbs:

Next date for me: Saturday, August 14.

so i have 4 "guys" on there now: spineshock-lv 5 tech/blaster; phantom aura- lv 10 mutation/controller; slant- lv 5 natural/scrapper; Major Blaze- lv 6 mutation blaster.

i loooove this game, too bad those muscle char. can't throw things around tho?!

adept and i were wondering if some would like to to task force 2nite? any one interested?

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Originally Posted by i n e p t

adept and i were wondering if some would like to to task force 2nite? any one interested?

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^bump^


Anyone at all?

I mean, who knows when the next time I can pull an all-nighter will be? :p




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On a different topic, I need input for my 14th level power. I still have not chosen it, although I did level up.

Here is what Stalemate v.6 (tech tanker) already has:

Inherent powers
Brawl
Sprint
Rest

Primary Power Set
Resist Physical Damage
Temporary Invulnerability
Resist Elements

Secondary Power Set
Barrage
Energy Punch
Bone Smasher

Pool Powers
Assault (damage bonus to all team members)
Hurdle



What options are available now for level 14:

Resist energies (Primary)
-Tempting, very tempting.

Dull Pain (Primary)
-Meh.

Unyelding Stance (Primary)
-Not really interested right now, but maybe later

Taunt (Secondary)
-Not interested at all.

Pool Powers
-1 chosen in each already: Leadership and Fitness. My aim was to get Stamina from the Fitness Pool, but to do so I require either Swift or Health by level 20. Since I fumbled my initial pool choices, I will be left without a "transportation" power (Super Speed, Teleport, Flight or Super Jump) by that time, since Pool Powers are maxed out at 4.


The dilemma is, Stamina is almost mandatory for me, draining end like I do when the action starts. That means I either have to get Swift or Health now or by level 20. Resist Energies is also something I want/need.


What power do you more experienced types think I should go for first, considering I want to get into some Task Force action tonight?

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Originally Posted by i n e p t

adept and i were wondering if some would like to to task force 2nite? any one interested?

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Not sure. Depends on if I'm going to my buddy's house for the Pats game or not. If I'm home I might do it, but we'd have to start around 8 est for me to guarantee I'd finish.

Inept and I probably will not be on much before 9:30-10PM.

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Originally Posted by a d e p t

^bump^


Anyone at all?

I mean, who knows when the next time I can pull an all-nighter will be? :p




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On a different topic, I need input for my 14th level power. I still have not chosen it, although I did level up.

Here is what Stalemate v.6 (tech tanker) already has:

Inherent powers
Brawl
Sprint
Rest

Primary Power Set
Resist Physical Damage
Temporary Invulnerability
Resist Elements

Secondary Power Set
Barrage
Energy Punch
Bone Smasher

Pool Powers
Assault (damage bonus to all team members)
Hurdle



What options are available now for level 14:

Resist energies (Primary)
-Tempting, very tempting.

Dull Pain (Primary)
-Meh.

Unyelding Stance (Primary)
-Not really interested right now, but maybe later

Taunt (Secondary)
-Not interested at all.

Pool Powers
-1 chosen in each already: Leadership and Fitness. My aim was to get Stamina from the Fitness Pool, but to do so I require either Swift or Health by level 20. Since I fumbled my initial pool choices, I will be left without a "transportation" power (Super Speed, Teleport, Flight or Super Jump) by that time, since Pool Powers are maxed out at 4.


The dilemma is, Stamina is almost mandatory for me, draining end like I do when the action starts. That means I either have to get Swift or Health now or by level 20. Resist Energies is also something I want/need.


What power do you more experienced types think I should go for first, considering I want to get into some Task Force action tonight?

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did you include end reducers in your enhancements? they do good by me so far

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did you include end reducers in your enhancements? they do good by me so far

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Yeah, even using a DO on one, but... I still wan to reduce the drain further so I can keep being useful on longer melee bouts - hence the desire to aim for Stamina at level 20.

I think I might just go with Resist Energy (Primary) or Swift (Pool) for now, and the other at either level 16 or 18.

Decisions, decisions, decisions... :p


Been using Hero Planner 1.55 to see what's best, and I'm at the crossroads now between the 2 I mentioned above.

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Originally Posted by a d e p t

Yeah, even using a DO on one, but... I still wan to reduce the drain further so I can keep being useful on longer melee bouts - hence the desire to aim for Stamina at level 20.

I think I might just go with Resist Energy (Primary) or Swift (Pool) for now, and the other at either level 16 or 18.

Decisions, decisions, decisions... :p


Been using Hero Planner 1.55 to see what's best, and I'm at the crossroads now between the 2 I mentioned above.

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You can use the same type of enhancer in two slots for the same power. :)

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You can use the same type of enhancer in two slots for the same power. :)

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Yup. Been doing that (mostly with damage and defense), and it does add up better than just combining. :cool:

I'll slot the energy melee further to bring down the end cost even further as the odd numbered levels come.

Are you suggesting I opt for another Power Pool instead of Fitness then?

What would you propose?

I will be on tonight starting at around 6pm-7pm pst. I want in on that TF action.

You'll still be there by about 10PM?

Based on my strategy guide book,.. it says to build your powers in the order of accuracy, damage, endurance. You need to be able to hit the villain, you need to be able to do damage, and you need to have endurance while you execute is the order of that thinking. You also have to consider if you are an offensive or defensive tanker (or other character). If you are offensive (melee) and plan on much melee attack, then you should build your powers accordingly. You will expect to drain end faster but keep good health. A defensive (aggro, heal) tanker might drain health faster than endurance based on the design of char powers.

Personally,.. based on my experience,.. it's pointless to spend all your dough on DO's until you hit the lvl 20-21 mark. It might be cool to know you have it, but it doesn't make that much noticable difference. Once you get to the higher lvls, you don't get too many training enhancements anyway. Patience is key here.

So based on that, get the highest training enhancements you can buy and build them up to ++'s. So like if you are lvl 13 with all 15++'s, then you are doing very well. Meanwhile save your money through lvl 16 and 17 and keep using the 15++'s. Then at 18, buy all lvl 20 enhancements. Repeat cycle. Does that make sense? If a high level enhancement happens to drop, then use it. For instance if you are lvl 14, you have lvl 15++ enhancements and a lvl 18 training enhancement drops. So you get rid of the 15++ and take the 18. But if you have lvl 15++ and a lvl 16 drops,.. keep the 15++ because it's actually going to be more powerful than the 16. (this is all in the book).

Also,.. always sell, sell, sell so you can later have enough influence to purchase what you need. Also,.. keep your inspirations tray full of what you need (CoB's, etc.)

Anyway,.. see you peeps tonight.

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You'll still be there by about 10PM?

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Yeah. I'm planning on a play-till-I-fall-asleep type of thing tonight. I really want to get 15 for the name change and the additional enhancement spots, and then maybe at least close in on 16 so I can soon get that "Super Jump" travel power.

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Originally Posted by WebHead

Based on my strategy guide book,.. it says to build your powers in the order of accuracy, damage, endurance. You need to be able to hit the villain, you need to be able to do damage, and you need to have endurance while you execute is the order of that thinking. You also have to consider if you are an offensive or defensive tanker (or other character). If you are offensive (melee) and plan on much melee attack, then you should build your powers accordingly. You will expect to drain end faster but keep good health. A defensive (aggro, heal) tanker might drain health faster than endurance based on the design of char powers.

Personally,.. based on my experience,.. it's pointless to spend all your dough on DO's until you hit the lvl 20-21 mark. It might be cool to know you have it, but it doesn't make that much noticable difference. Once you get to the higher lvls, you don't get too many training enhancements anyway. Patience is key here.

So based on that, get the highest training enhancements you can buy and build them up to ++'s. So like if you are lvl 13 with all 15++'s, then you are doing very well. Meanwhile save your money through lvl 16 and 17 and keep using the 15++'s. Then at 18, buy all lvl 20 enhancements. Repeat cycle. Does that make sense? If a high level enhancement happens to drop, then use it. For instance if you are lvl 14, you have lvl 15++ enhancements and a lvl 18 training enhancement drops. So you get rid of the 15++ and take the 18. But if you have lvl 15++ and a lvl 16 drops,.. keep the 15++ because it's actually going to be more powerful than the 16. (this is all in the book).

Also,.. always sell, sell, sell so you can later have enough influence to purchase what you need. Also,.. keep your inspirations tray full of what you need (CoB's, etc.)

Anyway,.. see you peeps tonight.

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Thanks for the tips - they pretty much confirm they way I've been going with enhancements and combining. ;)

As for the ++ status, that's pretty much all my enhancements at this point.

I wonder though, when you combine a 15++ with a 16, giving you a 16+, does that actually do anything apart from freeing up a slot either in your inventory or your power's slot bar?

Also, any recommendations on powers for my level 14? :cool:


...AND, is the guide worth the purchase? :D

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Originally Posted by a d e p t

Thanks for the tips - they pretty much confirm they way I've been going with enhancements and combining. ;)

As for the ++ status, that's pretty much all my enhancements at this point.

I wonder though, when you combine a 15++ with a 16, giving you a 16+, does that actually do anything apart from freeing up a slot either in your inventory or your power's slot bar?

Also, any recommendations on powers for my level 14? :cool:


...AND, is the guide worth the purchase? :D

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++ is always better than plus. If there is like a 4 lvl difference, then go with the higher level for sure. And yeah,.. the book is waaaay worth the purchase. At least I think so. It's helped me a lot. I actually keep it handy while I play.

I was under the impression - after reading up on enhancement combining - that the + referred to the effective level the enhancement was operating at.

A 15++ or a 16+ would both then be equivalent to a 17.

I'm guessing that's not what you understood then?


I'm leaving for now, but I'll check back in before CoH time. :cool:




Thanks for your tips d00d.

One thing about the book: Don't read it from page 1 through to the end. You'll fall asleep with all the descriptions you may not care about and all the math formulas, etc. Just refer to the parts you need. Read up on the character you are using. Check out his power set,.. maybe the differences in archetypes, how they are used best in a team situation, etc. Flip through the pages and check out the parts that interest you. Maybe take a look at the maps. It just gives you an insight to stuff you might be curious about.

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Originally Posted by a d e p t

I was under the impression - after reading up on enhancement combining - that the + referred to the effective level the enhancement was operating at.

A 15++ or a 16+ would both then be equivalent to a 17.

I'm guessing that's not what you understood then?


I'm leaving for now, but I'll check back in before CoH time. :cool:




Thanks for your tips d00d.

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See,.. thats the thing. It really all depends. As far as 15++ or 16+ = 17,.. honestly I would need to read up more on that to know exactly for sure. Based on what i read, it's always better to have a ++.

Got the guide and I found it very interesting at first glance.

According to the tips they offer, I went instead with Dull Pain as my lvl 14 power, and I appreciated it... too late during that first zombie bout where we got our a$$es handed to us in a carefully wrapped gift package. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif


If I had paid closer attention to my HPs, I could have used that power to bring it back up by about 150-200 points, instead of going into debt. :mad:

Thanks for the assist again. :thumbs:

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Originally Posted by a d e p t

Got the guide and I found it very interesting at first glance.

According to the tips they offer, I went instead with Dull Pain as my lvl 14 power, and I appreciated it... too late during that first zombie bout where we got our a$$es handed to us in a carefully wrapped gift package. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif


If I had paid closer attention to my HPs, I could have used that power to bring it back up by about 150-200 points, instead of going into debt. :mad:

Thanks for the assist again. :thumbs:

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Sweetness! Yeah Dull Pain was one of the first powers I got for my tanker.

I'll get Resist Energy at 16 and think some more about pools for 18 and 20. :cool:

The only problem I see with this game...


...is that I need to schedule my time on it now, since my wife, son and daughter all want to get in on the action too! :p


Oh yeah, and have an actual life too. :D



Have to go, my wife's turn now.

Crap.

Had to leave in a hurry before things got interesting with Aumakua and another player... AND I lost that cool screencap of me on the Steel Canyon statue when Buzzerbeater TPed me on it. :mad:


Oh well, there's always next weekend.

On Training, DO's and SO's.

I have found the book to be almost useless on this so I did some looking about.

When you combine enhancements and get a + or ++ it just means 1 or 2 levels higher than the # shown on the enhancement. I have read but can not confirm thet the % bonus an enhavement adds to you is higher when green and lower when yellow or white and non existant when red but the % differences are small.


In general:

Training = 8%
DO = 16%
SO = 33%

When reading on whether to slot with damage and/or accuracy for blasters, tanks, scrap, etc. the recommended was to use mostly damage and only 1 or 2 acc. For miss dynamo I have multiple powers 6 slotted and I use 2 acc and 4 dmg.

Also, I do not combine anymore unless the mission is long and I'm maxed out and I'll be getting more droped enhancements. The sale price of the droped items far outweighs the benefits of the combinations (which is almost nill). Aumakua has over 50,000 inf and has many things slotted with DO's (about 8). Of course, I gave 18,000 to myself from dynamo via Adepts help.

Thanks for the comments, ILTU.

That's a good tip about enhancements - selling instead of combining. Makes for more trips to trainers, but more infleunce in the end, so it's worth it.



I feel an apology is in order to Meatwad.

He was playing Io Dinah this weekend, and we selected a door mission of mine which turned out to be ridiculously hard for our group. I was level 14, so was a guest blaster (who died 7 times at least), but the other members had to be sidekicked since their levels were lower.. resulting in a very weak group where Io Dinah spent most of her time running around desperately trying to heal us, dealing with rather incompetent gamers (healer acting like a scrapper, blaster getting too close too action, etc.), and generally trying not to go into too much debt herself. :(

Luckily enough, things turned around when inept's blaster joined up - as well as the recruiting of higher levels friend who were willing to help out (I'd teamed with one before - nice guy, that BioKnife, working with us for no XP at all) and the zombies got their due finally. :guns:

I've added inept's blaster, Major Blaze, to the Ghosts of War supergroup. He's working on this thing so much he'll probably catch up to my level 15 by tomorrow. :p

Not a bad weekend.

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Thanks for the comments, ILTU.

That's a good tip about enhancements - selling instead of combining. Makes for more trips to trainers, but more infleunce in the end, so it's worth it.



I feel an apology is in order to Meatwad.

He was playing Io Dinah this weekend, and we selected a door mission of mine which turned out to be ridiculously hard for our group. I was level 14, so was a guest blaster (who died 7 times at least), but the other members had to be sidekicked since their levels were lower.. resulting in a very weak group where Io Dinah spent most of her time running around desperately trying to heal us, dealing with rather incompetent gamers (healer acting like a scrapper, blaster getting too close too action, etc.), and generally trying not to go into too much debt herself. :(

Luckily enough, things turned around when inept's blaster joined up - as well as the recruiting of higher levels friend who were willing to help out (I'd teamed with one before - nice guy, that BioKnife, working with us for no XP at all) and the zombies got their due finally. :guns:

I've added inept's blaster, Major Blaze, to the Ghosts of War supergroup. He's working on this thing so much he'll probably catch up to my level 15 by tomorrow. :p

Not a bad weekend.

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No apology required. I get cranky easily lately. :thumbs:

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No apology required. I get cranky easily lately. :thumbs:

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Honestly, I didn't notice that much of a "bad mood" vibe from you - just exasperation which I think we all suffered from during that mission.

Well, except maybe for that guest blaster, who appeared to actually enjoy running an XP debt over 5000 points. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

I'm hoping to get my new character lvled quickly to catch up. I'm tired of being a slow azz tanker with the same ol' boring powers. This new scrapper I am working on is awesome. Magic Kitana scrapper. Tonight,.. if one of you LT's are online,.. perhaps I could get this guy invited to the SG? I've got him up to lvl 9 so far,.. and prolly get him to 10 tonight. Once I hit lvl 10, then I could prolly team with you guys with this one as long as someone is willing to SK me. :)

Anyway,.. I haven't completely ditched Jamez yet just so you all know. I just wanted something with a little more flavor. Plus,.. I also have my lvl 24 blaster waiting around patiently. We sure have a wide spectrum of character on this SG. :D

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I'm hoping to get my new character lvled quickly to catch up. I'm tired of being a slow azz tanker with the same ol' boring powers. This new scrapper I am working on is awesome. Magic Kitana scrapper. Tonight,.. if one of you LT's are online,.. perhaps I could get this guy invited to the SG? I've got him up to lvl 9 so far,.. and prolly get him to 10 tonight. Once I hit lvl 10, then I could prolly team with you guys with this one as long as someone is willing to SK me. :)

Anyway,.. I haven't completely ditched Jamez yet just so you all know. I just wanted something with a little more flavor. Plus,.. I also have my lvl 24 blaster waiting around patiently. We sure have a wide spectrum of character on this SG. :D

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Hehe.

Less competition for Stalemate v.6 in the tanker arena. :D

I read that tankers started to really shine at about level 24, so it's going to take me a while to get him up there...

J/K about your tanker,Wrrby, I think Jamez is a definite asset, but more offense would also be appreciated in the SG. ASMOF, that's why I invited inept's MAjor Blaze into the SG right away, even if he's just lvl 10.

I can't believe I didn't think about inviting your character last night when you got in touch with me. Sorry about that. I might pop in tonight, so if it's not done yet I'll do it. ;)

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Hehe.

Less competition for Stalemate v.6 in the tanker arena. :D

I read that tankers started to really shine at about level 24, so it's going to take me a while to get him up there...

J/K about your tanker,Wrrby, I think Jamez is a definite asset, but more offense would also be appreciated in the SG. ASMOF, that's why I invited inept's MAjor Blaze into the SG right away, even if he's just lvl 10.

I can't believe I didn't think about inviting your character last night when you got in touch with me. Sorry about that. I might pop in tonight, so if it's not done yet I'll do it. ;)

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I agree about needing more offense. Thats part of why I created this new guy. Plus once we all start hitting the 20+ lvl, then I will bust out my Blaster who has been waiting patiently.

And thats ok about the invite. I was going to ask, but figured it was not a rush until I lvled to 10-11ish anyway. Plus I think I would've had to travel far to get to where you were at for the invite. So no biggie.