1 Pentium 4 1.3 Ghz vs. 2 Pentium III 1 Ghz - Which is greater?

I have quite a dilema here, I'm looking to upgrade my processor and motherboard. Last week, I found a nice P4 1.4 Ghz/mobo combo for a good price and this week I found a Dual PIII 1Ghz/mobo combo for a bit less. I'm a casual user and I will be using Windows 2000/XP Pro as an O.S. What do you think would be better? I play the ocassional games, I have Broadband connection, I use my computer as a jukebox basically. What would work better for me? For me 2 PIII 1GHZ is better than 1 P4 1.4 Ghz. What does everybody else think?

Definitely the 2 1ghz P3s!

As a matter of fact 1 1ghz P3 would come pretty close to the P4, since the P4 is so bad!

btw..how much is each setup? As much as I'm an Athlon fan, if the board is cheaper than the Tyan Thunder K7, it'd be nice for recommending to my friends..

My daul p3s 1ghz are faster than a single 1.6ghz p4, maybe a 1.7? or a 1.8?...but then we go to memory bandwith...and I get shot in the foot :D

if you send me an ICQ message, I'll post my benchmarks on it here (I'm using a supermicro 370DDE)

After reading your post over - if you won't use the dauls (the programs you run) don't even bother with a dualie.

if you won't use the dauls (the programs you run) don't even bother with a dualie.

well, i know that 2k/xp can use dual processors. here is the length of my computer usage. Outlook Express, Windows Media Player, AOL, MSN, Office XP and Morpheus.

<a href="http://www.bzboyz.com/store/product706.html" target="_blank">here is the information on the Dual PIII/mobo combo</a>

yea, don't bother. None of those you'd need the 2nd processor on. They'd open a heck of a lot faster, but thats about it...

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not too bad. If I was you, and wanted to go this route, just buy the mobo and 1st processor NOW and wait on the 2nd for later...if ya need it / want it...

Hehe, thats what I did, but got both processors within a week of each other (check out supermicro's 370DDE) and I'm loving my system, but I play a lot of games and love the extra processor to take care of "housework" tasks (running explorer, services etc) and dedicate 1 CPU to just the game...oohh is that fun :D

only thing I don't have - scsi160 - but I don't have the money for that after this upgrade but I'm VERY happy with mine

[quote]Originally posted by Fubarian:
<strong>I play a lot of games and love the extra processor to take care of "housework" tasks (running explorer, services etc) and dedicate 1 CPU to just the game</strong><hr></blockquote>

What O.S. are you using? Because from the quote above it seems that you can tell what Porgrams to run on what processor. Is that possible, and if it is, how?

Thanks

I've been running dual PIII/450s for a couple years now, first under WinNT4, and for the last year under W2K. Only these two Windows O/S will recognize the second processor. I will never go back to a single processor system. Everything runs better...everything. I'm ruined for life...no question...once you've done dual, you'll never stomach single... :)

[quote]Originally posted by Format_It:
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What O.S. are you using? Because from the quote above it seems that you can tell what Porgrams to run on what processor. Is that possible, and if it is, how?

Thanks</strong><hr></blockquote>

yea, its under 2k - its called afitity (in task manager). you can LITERALLY put a process on 1 processor and restrict it to that processor ONLY...

And as Spaceman Spiff said...once you go daul...you'll NEVER go back...its a disease, doesn't go away and can't break yourself from it.

Something that I did forget to mention is that say you run ...Half-life...for instance...well, its got more than 1 process that runs, so even though that 1 program can't use the 2...each process CAN use either processor, which in turn, helps with everything.

--- example --- HL is 1 thread (1 thing runs, HL.exe)

HL.exe takes 100% of processor 0; however, explorer.exe, ICQ, Outlook and so on, run off processor 1....

spiffy eh?

ran a benchmark (sisoft)on the 2 processors for kicks...

Dhrystone ALU - 5402 MIPS
Whetstone FPU - 2689 MFLOPS

Check out this site to see why the P4 is crap (http://www.emulators.com/pentium4.htm), then go get your P3.

I'm addicted to duallies too.
Used to own dual p-pro 200's. Sold those off.
Invested in a dual Cel 466/oc to 525mhz with an abit BP6, Then got a special deal with dual PIII 450's /oc to 500mhz with an ASUS P2B-DS. I'm addicted.
Looks like you have a good setup there too. But only if you really need a dedicated 2nd cpu. Intel is definitely trying to phase out their PIII's to help move their botched up P4 plans.
The PIII's might only be available til Xmas???

they're releasing the 1.9 and 2.0 gig p4's on Oct 26th, and at the same time, releasing the 1.13, 1.26 at 256 and 512 cache p3s...which I'll be waiting on and hoping to buy :D

Hey Fubian, where did you get your information regarding the new PIII's? Are these mobile or Xeon/Itanium(sp?)?

I still haven't bought the dual cpu/mobo combo, but I've decided that I will buy that and it will keep me quiet for at least a year, maybe 2.

Thanks for everyones input!!!

Tucsonan #1 never make judgment of anything by a single article.

#2 statements like these "Just to quickly cover one more time why I hate the Pentium 4 so much" do not make for responsible well-balanced journalism. And although the author makes some valid points, he oftens sounds like a zealot on a Jihad.

#3 After reading the article I found quite a few inconsistancies and errors concerning clock cycles and CPU architecture.

I will not be trading my Dual Pentium III 1000MHz anytime soon for a Pent IV, but it certainly is not because of the article you pointed out.
Also, remember this, it takes a software programer using the instruction set of a cpu properly and optimization to realize the potential of any cpu.
This is why certain applications, being optimized for use on Pent IV's do so well case in point Quake, in this the Pentium IV excels.
But unfortunately because of the architecture used to achieve high bandwith in media applications, in everyday tasks it flounders and that's where the PIV is loosing ground. Also that coupled with the fact that previosly you could only use RDRAM ( RAMBUS) and it was way overpriced. BTW the prices are coming down, Mushkin has 128 MGB sticks of RDRAM for $48, so even though it's not as inexpensive as DDR or SDRAM it's now within reach for the average user.

My advice has already been offered here, buy the dual processor board and use a single processor or go for the gusto and put dual PentIII's in wether you use it or not you'll have plenty of clock cycles to do anything you want and truly multitask. Something NO single processor board will ever truly do.

Dual Processor systems are always better than single ones.
BUT
It really depends on what do you want to do on the computer.
If you don't run Heavy Graphic apps, Calculations, Simulation Etc. Spend the Extra Money on something else like better 3D card, Memory Etc.

Dual 1.26ghz p3 512k's would rock

thats what I'm shootin for now :D

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Oh, I'm a system builder, we hear about all the good stuff earily https://forums.windrivers.com/

Its a tultian (sp) p3 - .13micron process and is gonna come in 4 different types, a 1.13 at 256 or 512k L2 and the 1.26 at 256 or 512k L2 - all at full speed L2 cache https://forums.windrivers.com/ Basically the 512k are baby xeons


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i miss my dualie https://forums.windrivers.com/ https://forums.windrivers.com/ https://forums.windrivers.com/ https://forums.windrivers.com/
my dual p2 333, 512 meg ram. i miss it so much, but i guess i will just have to buy a new machine https://forums.windrivers.com/

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believe it or not, but i went for an AMD T-bird 1.4Ghz. Which I am happy with, just some minor BIOS issues. Thanks for everybodies help, but the price became a major factor so I went with AMD. Maybe, I'll buy a dual AMD mobo and hook that up.

Thanks for everybodies help!!!

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<font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva" size="2">Originally posted by Format_It:
believe it or not, but i went for an AMD T-bird 1.4Ghz. Which I am happy with, just some minor BIOS issues. Thanks for everybodies help, but the price became a major factor so I went with AMD. Maybe, I'll buy a dual AMD mobo and hook that up.

Thanks for everybodies help!!!

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That would have been my original suggestion! https://forums.windrivers.com/ https://forums.windrivers.com/ I am also proud owner of a 1.4 TBird, what are your specs?


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edited by Sowulo...duplicate post

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