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Okay, just wondering what everyone thinks. If you had to choose between Dell or Compaq PCs to support in a corporate environment which would you choose and why. Our standard has been HP and now with the merger. :rolleyes:
Looking for the least proprietary systems, they'll be running win98.
Thanx
Running Windows 98??? Ouch!
Given only those two options, it would be Dell.
Given another option, I would go with IBM's.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Sabathius:
<strong>Running Windows 98??? Ouch!
Given only those two options, it would be Dell.
Given another option, I would go with IBM's.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto!
IBM's like the Net Vista series, or what ones are you guys refering to?
At my company we have mostly Compaq servers and a few "home grown" ones. I would have preferred DELL because I've found they use mostly industry standard items.
Compaq is all right for servers, but pick Dell for workstations.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by a d e p t:
<strong>Compaq is all right for servers, but pick Dell for workstations.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll second that 100%.
Dells have always been a gazillion times easier to work on than Compaqs, but Compaqs do tend to run cheaper (in several ways) which can easily sway a corperate decision...
Dell seems to use more standard equipment, which if you lose restore disks, finding drivers can be a bit easier, plus their support is a lot better than HP / Compaq.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by a d e p t:
<strong>Compaq is all right for servers, but pick Dell for workstations.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto too. Our compaq servers are still running after 6 years and the dell workstations are pretty bangin'. Our users love them but they run 2000. Why 98? You can get new dells (1ghz, 128mb, 20gb, vid/sound/nic) with 2000 on them with monitor for about $600 american.
The compaq workstations are garbage from what I have seen here at my Co. Drivers given from the net are often the wrong ones, the machines are slow. The one thing they have is that they are easy to work with - easy RMA and whatnot.
Go with Dell. We have used them for a while now and seem to give little trouble. A pretty much vanilla PC. Go with Compaq if you like mystery and suspense!
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fubar:
<strong>Go with Dell. We have used them for a while now and seem to give little trouble. A pretty much vanilla PC. Go with Compaq if you like mystery and suspense!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Same here! We had Compaq and we had to switch to Dell due to product availibility. And Dell are much better.
As stated above, Dell for workstations, and Compaq for servers.
Kenny P.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by craigmodius:
<strong>Okay, just wondering what everyone thinks. If you had to choose between Dell or Compaq PCs to support in a corporate environment which would you choose and why. Our standard has been HP and now with the merger. :rolleyes:
Looking for the least proprietary systems, they'll be running win98.
Thanx</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Compuq for servers and Dell for workstations I totally agree on I work for the government and dell was our was for the users because of money but we went with IBM for labtops even thou we tried to get them for the workstations . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
When I first came to this company, I preferred the "home grown" variation. This company uses all Compaq servers, and primarily Compaq workstations. These aren't the bottom-of-the-line systems, but they aren't the most expensive. They seem to be fairly stable, and it helps that we (the IT dept) regulate what software gets installed on the PC and what does not. You would be surprised at how many LESS problems you have when the users can't install whatever they want, whenever they want.
We used to buy PC's from Compaq, then get printers from another vendor, and software from another. The corporate HQ decided that they wanted to buy all items from one company, so they went to the lowest bidder, which was Dell. So in the last 6 months, we've been getting Dell workstations with Win2k, and they ROCK! Very solid, very stable. And with the two times that I have had to call in for support (bad MBD on one system, and bad RAM on another), I didn't get the run-around on their tech support side.
The leases on our Compaq servers expire in December, and we're already looking to see what Dell offers to replace them. We're anxious to see how the Dell servers compare to Compaq. But so far, we're pleased with both companies.
Dell Optiplex for the desktops.
IBM Thinkpads (aka:stinkpads)for mobil users
Compaq for the servers, no doubt !
winning combo with these.
Dell Latitudes are nice laptops,
but the IBM Thinkpads are just better,
of course thats just my opinion.
We use all Dell's here. I will say they are rock solid. All of our machines carry the 3yr next business day on site warranty, and they stand by that with pride. That makes my job here MUCH easier. We have a few Compaq's left. I spent 2 and a half hours on the fone with them to get them to replace a cd-rom one time, and that was after the transfers and finally finding the right place .. not with Dell. We try and stick with Dell as far as buying anything else goes (printers, software, periphs), and I will say that area of Dell is good too. They are always quick in responding with quotes and usually have good prices.
We have started making a lot of changes in the server room as well. We are getting rid of a bunch of Compaq servers, and they are being replaced with Dell's. The Dell 2500 series servers are rock solid, and they are fast too. We haven't yet taxed one out in any way.
BTW, we use Dimensions for the desktops and Lattitudes for the laptops, although we just bought 7 Inspiron 2650's and they seem nice too. Haven't gotten to mess with them much yet though.
I find Dell are great in a corporate environment. The machines are solid, price friendly, and their support is excellent compared to most of the market. I'm not sure how they do on servers or home machines, but they are my recommendation for corporate workstations.
Dude, go for the Dell!
I agree with Everybody else, Dell's for the workstations, and Compaq's for the servers. (As I type this from a Compaq workstation! :D )
You may want to look at what MicronPC has to offer. Their systems are open and easy to support, plus tech support from MicronPC is pretty good too. MicronPC even has a line of AMD based machines, though a very small line.
Dell all the way.
Out worksations area l some flavor of optiplex. Servers are all power edge (except the AS/400s). Why? Becasue hte Suppor tis outstanding,in 4hours we have it fixed, or a new system. No fuss no muss. The IT department only deals with users, and softwere, hardware is totaly covered by dell.
NO to IBM, we dumped them becausthe service is crap. and compaq.... to propritory.
DELL = RETAIL CUSTOMERS
COMPAQ = CORPORATE CUSTOMERS
One thing you dont want to ignore (especially if you are a large company) is the PC company's ability to support the PCs across the enterprise. I'm not talking about 1 yr vs 3 yr warranties, etc. In a large company you can pitch all that. Your PC provider should support you no matter how old the machine is. Also, your PC vendor should be able to help you recover from your worst disaster scenarios. Ask yourself, "Will (Dell or Compaq) be able to help me if 25% of my PCs go down at once?"
I work for a large company (150,000+ employees & PCs & several thousand servers). Compaq is our 95% exclusive vendor for desktops and servers and they have done a pretty good job supporting our equipment. They treat us like they would want to be treated.
I worked with Dell with a predecessor company and they treated us like we just walked in off the street. Their tenure was very short as a result.
As far as quality of the actual machines, its pretty much a wash. Compaq has proprietary crap like BIOS on the HDD :confused: and cases that look like they were designed by baby chimps. But Dell has some minuses too like single drive IDE channels, poor air flow in cases and poor driver support. Both are about equally painful.
In a horse race, I would say Compaq by a nose (support).
If you REALLY want quality, stable equipment go with IBM. I have some 5-6 year old 300gl's that I am still using today at work. Never had a prob. Only prob is that you can expect to pay 10-25% higher for IBM label.
Well thanks guys that pretty much sums up what I had alredy figured. I just haven't had experience on recent Compaq workstations. Though we have a few nice Compaq servers (Proliant)in place as well as a few Dells (Poweredge)
I have dealt with recent Dells(optiplex, dimensions etc.) and found their support to be OK.
And this is just a small 120 or so node network.
Thanks again.
If your workstations are Dell, you might want to talk to your Dell sales rep about becoming Dell certified. It only costs about $150, once you are certified you no longer have to deal with calling them on the phone for warranty parts. You just go to their website, fill out some info and the next morning you have your warranty part.
Definetly Dell, I have all IBM's now. They aren't too bad, but I just thought that the Dell service was much better, and they got a cool commercial dude.