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Damn it works........I have to say XP RC1 has been pretty good so far,The network part is plain and simple.I would like to know some people problems they may be expeirencing. Although I don't think we needed another OS right now it makes for Job security for me.People will be upgrading all the time and I Get to fix it .Yeah for me! LOL <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
I'm running Beta2 and so far, it has been solid. I wish that I could change networks on the fly w/o reboot. ie. join domains and switch between them w/o rebooting.
I'll download RC1 if its out and let you know.
JKS
Yeah.. wish I could do these things... wait a tic.. hasnt UNIX been doing this for the last 20ish years?.. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">Quote:
Originally posted by JKSteger:
<STRONG>...I wish that I could change networks on the fly w/o reboot. ie. join domains and switch between them w/o rebooting...</STRONG>
*awaits various anti-unix flames*...
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Originally posted by EvilCabbage:
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Yeah.. wish I could do these things... wait a tic.. hasnt UNIX been doing this for the last 20ish years?.. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
*awaits various anti-unix flames*...</STRONG>
No flaming on unix from me. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
Finally found some time to load up XP beta 2.
Could have sworn it was loading NT for a few seconds. I havent ha time to play with it the way I want to but so far it seems ok. Is it what microsoft has been raving about?
From my point of view.. NO.
Wow..it has diffrent buttons.. BFD !
lets see...convince the public (half who shount own a computer to begin with) that XP is what you HAVE to have, charge them $180 a pop, all for what? Buttons?
I think you have completely missed the point dude....Quote:
Originally posted by CPU Guys:
<STRONG>Wow..it has diffrent buttons.. BFD !
lets see...convince the public (half who shount own a computer to begin with) that XP is what you HAVE to have, charge them $180 a pop, all for what? Buttons?</STRONG>
Other than the fact that it is a conglomeration of NT,WIN2000 with some 98 and Me threw in for good measure, It has been working good for us. I havnt seen RC1 yet but I doubt that it is much different that Beta2 and if I understand MS right then the 15 minutes @1.2 Mb download that automaticaly occured Friday then I should have RC1. I did have to go in and reset all my network profiles and policies. Other than that XP has been cool. Question is< Are we going to be able to buy it or are we going to purchase a yearly site license?Quote:
Originally posted by EvilCabbage:
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I think you have completely missed the point dude....</STRONG>
Signed up for and downloaded RC1 this week. Yes it took me all week on my 56K <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> CRC checked and burned it, then put it on my test box. Installation found all my hardware except the hardware modem and (strangely) one of the two 3COM 10/100 NICs in the machine. Velocity 4400, SB 128 PCI, and the other 3COM 10/100 along with Highpoint ATA100 controller were OK. It is way slower than 98SE on the machine though. I think M$ still hasn't even tried to work out the problems with NT-based OS and AMD processor platforms. Overall I'm not impressed with the performance, but the stability has been great, the only crash was when I loaded my Scanjet 4200C (and I still haven't got it working yet.)
One new feature I like--native support for CDRW.
Things I don't like: No support for my Microtek Scanner; Logitech iTouch keyboard; Roxio EasyCD Platinum or DirectCD5; ATI Multimedia (no TV tuning); BSOD and reboots (longest it ran without rebooting--about 30 minutes).
I thought I'd give it a good test but too many things I use alot with W2K cause "an IRQ Storm" (an interesting message for a BSOD) with XP. I guess I'll take one more look when RC2 is released and then wait and see how everything shakes out.
one thing: this is based on nt? - less stable than ME!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Have you been smoking crack, son?...Quote:
Originally posted by unknown4x:
<STRONG>one thing: this is based on nt? - less stable than ME!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!</STRONG>
Did it really say you caused an IRQ storm? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">Quote:
Originally posted by Sowulo:
<STRONG>I thought I'd give it a good test but too many things I use alot with W2K cause "an IRQ Storm" (an interesting message for a BSOD) with XP.</STRONG>
Yup. The exact words it uses.....Quote:
Originally posted by kingtbone:
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Did it really say you caused an IRQ storm? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
One question? are you doing a raw install on a seperate HD or are you loading over ME or 98.?
I got my email today and am downloading RC1 right now. I can't wait to see it run.
That is really funny.... if i am not mistaken, 'IRQ Storm' is linux lingo! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">Quote:
Originally posted by Sowulo:
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Yup. The exact words it uses.....</STRONG>
I wish I could say I was playing with Windows XP RC1 but i didn't get my cd yet... <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">! What did they do? They always have to mess up something LOL. XP looks VERY good too me I can't wait.
Well XP passed my first test, my daily Q3 fph went up 15% which at least means it's no worse than ME.....lol I'll get to the technical stuff later.....G
According to the info I received from M$ You will be able to do this either on RC2 or final. According to paper work this has be disabled in beta and RC1 <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">Quote:
Originally posted by JKSteger:
<STRONG>I'm running Beta2 and so far, it has been solid. I wish that I could change networks on the fly w/o reboot. ie. join domains and switch between them w/o rebooting.
I'll download RC1 if its out and let you know.JKS</STRONG>
Yes, ladies and gentleman, joelen has found our DAILY DOUBLE!!!Quote:
Originally posted by joelen:
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That is really funny.... if i am not mistaken, 'IRQ Storm' is linux lingo! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
And here's the answer :
This is the one line of code that Microsoft actually wrote for themselves.....
You have 5 more seconds.....
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Oh, I'm sorry, time is up....the question is:
"What is a 'general protection fault'?"
But, we do have some lovely parting gifts for you and your family....but hurry, because this software will only work for 14 days......
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Honestly, I don't know what got into me there <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
edited by Sowulo--no flaming allowed here
I haven't played with it yet....I'm a bit frustrated by the whole thought process behind MS putting out a new OS every 2 or so years regardless of whether or not it's a quality product. I have no probs learning and using a new OS...so long as it's worthwhile. Raise your hand if you had ME installed for a few weeks and then reformatted and went back to 98SE. Raise your hand if your network is still trying to figure out how to rollover from NT to 2000 without creating a security and stability issue... Forgive me if I'm not so excited about XP. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">
Our entire network is NT4 for server side. We dont want to convert for another year.
Now I'm sure that installing fresh is best, but are there any paticular known problems with installing over another OS(ME or 98)... got a copy in hand, just havent thrown it on a puter yet...
XP rc-1 is very flashy, and nice, but what if a ok user tryed to use it? When I first loaded up XP and went into the start mrnu its was completely diffrent, wont this confuse alot of windows users? Although it was ez to configure it to look like the classic and have a XP theme on. But this is one reaseon why my work will not goto XP. The users here are to confused on win2000 right now let alone goto XP.
Although XP looks nice and is very very fast, even network support is very fast (couldnt beleive it) XP is just very very flashy, looks nice but how will it perform out in the world over the net with thousands of users? And how will this License thing do to microsoft? Will lauching XP right now when win2000 hasnt even been out for a year yet, be a good idea? Personally I think M$ should wait till next year of this time.
I don't have XP, but I do have to add a comment based on a newspaper article I read over the weekend.
Did you all know that XP will require you to register your computer's hardware configuration with M$? They want you to do this to prevent ppl from installing the same copy on other machines. One copy goes with one hardware configuration.
Ok, I understand that Bill is poor and needs the cash, but what about upgrades? I'm constantly changing the guts of my box, how many can I make before XP thinks it's in a different machine and quits? Then I get to call M$ and beg them to re-activate my XP?
And what is M$ doing with all this information that they will be collecting from all the XP users? Storing it safely away? I think not.
I dunno what new toys they will be selling with XP, but the privacy issue is too big, and 98SE runs great.
I'll pass, thanks.
I question MS's motives for releasing a new OS at this time. From a business standpoint there are no logical reasons to upgrade. It would be a huge waste of money, time and effort.
I've played on it a bit but not much... I've heard good things from my friends who run it.
-BillTech
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Originally posted by Megawatt:
<STRONG>I don't have XP, but I do have to add a comment based on a newspaper article I read over the weekend.
Did you all know that XP will require you to register your computer's hardware configuration with M$? They want you to do this to prevent ppl from installing the same copy on other machines. One copy goes with one hardware configuration.
Ok, I understand that Bill is poor and needs the cash, but what about upgrades? I'm constantly changing the guts of my box, how many can I make before XP thinks it's in a different machine and quits? Then I get to call M$ and beg them to re-activate my XP?
And what is M$ doing with all this information that they will be collecting from all the XP users? Storing it safely away? I think not.
I dunno what new toys they will be selling with XP, but the privacy issue is too big, and 98SE runs great.
I'll pass, thanks.</STRONG>
http://www.licenturion.com/xp/
I have tried both ways. I tthink as always a fresh install is the way to go but it does handle upgrade very well. If you do a fresh install it should be on a different HD. Change you C to D or what ever. After you install XP and get it up and running stable you can use XP to migrate your applications to your C drive. Ideally the best way is to make a multi-boot system. As with all RC and beta software there will be bugs and glitches. At present there are a great number of cards and hardware not yet supported but this will change as it gets closer to final release. Go for it and have fun with it. We are part of the original beta group and have been running it for some time. We like it. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">Quote:
Originally posted by hutojaba:
<STRONG>Now I'm sure that installing fresh is best, but are there any paticular known problems with installing over another OS(ME or 98)... got a copy in hand, just havent thrown it on a puter yet...</STRONG>
Man this thing works great!! I have had it on my system since it was available. Works well - the only issues that I have had are all third party driver support from companies that have not released drivers for XP (those guys need to get in gear (Creative)) Other than that all is good - Games Run great with the win2000 NVIDIA driver 12.14
Good job M$