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I want to buy a P3 1gh, but noticed in a previous forum someone talking about the difference between OEM and retail box. I have noticed that there is a big difference in price between the two. What is the difference between the two that the price could be affected that much?
Retail boxed CPU's tend to come with a HSF supplied and a 3 year warranty. OEM CPU's come with the suppliers warranty and are supplied without a HSF (unless you buyu one seperatly). Buying a retail boxed CPU also gives you the satisfaction that you have actually got what you paid for , as OEM cpu's being loose have been known to be remarked as faster chips from what they are.
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Ok, nother question, what is a HSF? High speed fan?
Heat Sink and Fan.
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Thanks. I appreciate it.
IMHO, if you are dealing with a reputable source there is nothing wrong with OEM cpus. You will also hear them referred to a "Grey" og "Grey Market" because they were not intended for resale, rather bought in bulk for system builds.
The warranty is typically 30-90 days depending on supplier (some up to 1yr). From personal experience having used many Greys in my own systems-- You do have to pay for the HSF, add it into the price difference, I have never had a grey CPU fail, and have run many of them for several years ( as a rule, if a cpu makes it past burn in, you won't have any problems). So consider the cost difference, how well you trust you are not getting a "remark" (which is also becoming harder to do with the new generation chips). If you do buy the grey, run the crap out of it for the 30 day warranty, and cut a picture out of a magazine if you miss the box-- it's much cheaper.
Bill
I bought a OEM Voodoo3 1000 and it came with the wrong drivers.
So what, I would always download the latest drivers instead of using the drivers that came with the card (if any)
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But don't forget, the retail box CPU comes with a genuine "Intel Inside" sticker....
I always buy whichever is cheaper at the moment (considering of course the extra cost of a HSF for the OEM chip). In my fifteenth year, God knows how many chips I've bought--thousands?--never had an Intel fail. Oh, and my vendor is 30 days on an OEM.
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Ya never know, ya know?
I know, but I have dial up internet and and drivers are about 10 megs.
So you got a 30-60min download. Not a big deal.
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Ya never know, ya know?
OEM cpu's are crap! you get what you pay for, if want to save the extra 10-20 dollars for OEM cpu you still have to buy the HSF. Well unless you invest the money for a decent one 10-20 dollars you will buy a cheap one that will fail. Now I have had a few OEM cpu's fail in my day however I have seen hundred of failed crappy little 2 dollar fans fail. So if you want to buy fans every few months buy an OEM .
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To keep it simple:
1. Retail - Nice clean CPU with a three year warranty, Intel Inside sticker, and Heatsink and Fan built in. Plus the comfort of a nice retail box (for those to whom that matters)
2. OEM - Less Expensive, allows for any HS&F that is for the Intel, if the HS&F fails, just strap another one on, 30 day warranty.
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Your point of OEM cpus being crap and then harping on $2 fans is ludicrous...Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by supatech:
OEM cpu's are crap! you get what you pay for, if want to save the extra 10-20 dollars for OEM cpu you still have to buy the HSF. Now I have had a few OEM cpu's fail in my day however I have seen hundred of failed crappy little 2 dollar fans fail. So if you want to buy fans every few months buy an OEM .
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Perhaps your $2 fans turned the cpus into "crap"?
Do you beleive there are separate assembly lines for OEM cpus? wrong..same thing, but the OEM cpu will usually only have a 15 or 30 day warranty, and of course no sink/fan...but naturally, a Taisol, Global Win, or hedgehog is better than most factory sink/fan combos.
What sense does it make to fork out $50 extra, then discard the factory sink/fan for a better one?
Well put MDD
I have an oem cel600 and it hasn't given me any trouble at all. And with the money i saved getting oem i grabbed a big *** HSF and oced the thing to 855. And its rock solid.
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WE GET OEMS IN ONCE IN A WHILE IF DEMAND IS HIGH AND THATS ALL WE CAN GET FOR A GOOD PRICE, WE HAVEN'T HAD TOO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THEM EXCEPT SOME AMD'S THAT RAN HOTTER THAN HELL AND BLUE SCREENED ALL THE TIME. NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANY INTEL THOUGH.
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[This message has been edited by WASAW (edited March 20, 2001).]
I personally, find nothing wrong with OEM cpu's. My last 3 have been OEM, and I have had no problems with them whatsoever. 10 to 20 dollars really is not that much for a HSF, especially if you intend to overclock the cpu. I have also found OEM cpu's to be exceptional overclockers. Hell, I bought an OEM Celeron 633, Golden Orb, and SlotKet for about $100 total, about 3 months or so ago. I have it at 1GHz, and only have a Blue Screen about once every two weeks, and that's not because of the fact that it is OEM, but probably because of the FSB I run it at. To conclude, most OEM cpu's are not "crap".Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by supatech:
OEM cpu's are crap! you get what you pay for, if want to save the extra 10-20 dollars for OEM cpu you still have to buy the HSF. Well unless you invest the money for a decent one 10-20 dollars you will buy a cheap one that will fail. Now I have had a few OEM cpu's fail in my day however I have seen hundred of failed crappy little 2 dollar fans fail. So if you want to buy fans every few months buy an OEM .</font>
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633, or 1000, 633 or 1000? I just don't know!