Eminem - The Eminem Show, 100%

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May 28th, 2002, 12:13 PM
opiate

Eminem - The Eminem Show, 100%

WOW, I'm truly amazed at Em's new album The Eminem Show. It's just as good if not better then his last. Fat beats, raw lyrics....WOW! I thought he lost everything on the D4 project. I'm very impressed and am now a very assured Eminem fan. This guy will be around for awhile. I don't like allot of Hip Hop/Rap but I do like Dr. Dre, Snoop, Jay Z, LL Cool J and a few other's. My favorite music is Rock (please exclude Nickleback, Default, Puddle of Mud). I think you need to have an open mind to really listen to and enjoy music.

Wow, I cannot wait to get off work and go cruising listening to the new Em.
May 28th, 2002, 12:16 PM
MacGyver

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
Wow, I cannot wait to get off work and go crusting listening to the new Em.<hr /></blockquote>I hope you meant "cruising" not "crusting"

:D

Personally, I don't find anything good or redeeming in his music. He relies on shock tactics to get attention. MHO.
May 28th, 2002, 12:21 PM
opiate

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MacGyver:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
Wow, I cannot wait to get off work and go crusting listening to the new Em.<hr /></blockquote>Personally, I don't find anything good or redeeming in his music. He relies on shock tactics to get attention. MHO.<hr /></blockquote>That's okay, we don't expect much from Canadians. :cool:
May 28th, 2002, 12:57 PM
cc_penguin

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MacGyver:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
Wow, I cannot wait to get off work and go crusting listening to the new Em.<hr /></blockquote>Personally, I don't find anything good or redeeming in his music. He relies on shock tactics to get attention. MHO.<hr /></blockquote>That's okay, we don't expect much from Canadians. :cool: <hr /></blockquote>I guess I need to move then 'cause I feel the same way.... :D :D
May 28th, 2002, 01:44 PM
MacGyver

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
That's okay, we don't expect much from Canadians. :cool: <hr /></blockquote>The feeling's mutual. :D
May 28th, 2002, 01:46 PM
opiate

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MacGyver:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
That's okay, we don't expect much from Canadians. :cool: <hr /></blockquote>The feeling's mutual. :D <hr /></blockquote>Is that all you got?
May 28th, 2002, 03:07 PM
Stalemate

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
Is that all you got?<hr /></blockquote>Hey, take that back, or else we'll be forced to - to...

Hum.

Well, do nothing, as usual, I guess. :p
May 28th, 2002, 03:09 PM
DiR[ëctory]

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by a d e p t:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
Is that all you got?<hr /></blockquote>Hey, take that back, or else we'll be forced to - to...

Hum.

Well, do nothing, as usual, I guess. :p <hr /></blockquote>Ya'll could smuggle some more drugs into our country :)

J/K. I saw a documentary on that, the only reason BC exports their weed is because it is in such high demand in the US.

Sad really.
May 28th, 2002, 03:10 PM
Stalemate

I forgot to mention - I couldn't care less for Eminem's music either.

Never been a big fan of rap (unless you slap some metal in there with it), but I can't shake the feeling that I'm listening to Chris Tucker when his songs come up. "Fast and whiny".

I can't open my mind bog enough for this guy to fit in there, sorry.

But I have to admit he's got a way with the media. :rolleyes:
May 28th, 2002, 03:10 PM
Cleetus

Watch out they might bomb the Baldwins!!!!
May 28th, 2002, 05:30 PM
korpse

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
WOW, I'm truly amazed at Em's new album The Eminem Show. It's just as good if not better then his last. Fat beats, raw lyrics....WOW! I thought he lost everything on the D4 project. I'm very impressed and am now a very assured Eminem fan. This guy will be around for awhile. I don't like allot of Hip Hop/Rap but I do like Dr. Dre, Snoop, Jay Z, LL Cool J and a few other's. My favorite music is Rock (please exclude Nickleback, Default, Puddle of Mud). I think you need to have an open mind to really listen to and enjoy music.

Wow, I cannot wait to get off work and go cruising listening to the new Em.<hr /></blockquote>Did you ever hear the MP3 of Eminem winning the rhyming words freestyle competition from before he was known? It is f'en amazing. Lemme know if you've heard it, I'm pretty sure its not copyrighted so if you haven't I'll post a link.
May 28th, 2002, 05:31 PM
korpse

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cleetus:
Watch out they might bomb the Baldwins!!!!<hr /></blockquote>That would mean war!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
May 28th, 2002, 09:20 PM
KINGofBLEH

What difference does it make if anyone likes his music or not? There is a lot of shock value in his stuff and it makes him a BIG PILE of money. There is no deep meaning to any of his lyrics. There are no memorable melodies in his songs. It has ZERO musical value whatsoever.

I am not knocking those who listen to him. If you want to numb your mind with that crap, knock yourself out.

I personally enjoy good opera and good blues.
May 28th, 2002, 10:45 PM
da_grinch

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KINGofBLEH:
What difference does it make if anyone likes his music or not? There is a lot of shock value in his stuff and it makes him a BIG PILE of money. There is no deep meaning to any of his lyrics. There are no memorable melodies in his songs. It has ZERO musical value whatsoever.
I personally enjoy good opera and good blues.<hr /></blockquote>Zero music value? I beg to differ. Sure, it's not deep or sentimental or any of that crap, but to the younger generation, it definetily has meaning. As for the no melodies thing, obviously you haven't heard STAN.
May 29th, 2002, 07:41 AM
opiate

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KINGofBLEH:
What difference does it make if anyone likes his music or not? There is a lot of shock value in his stuff and it makes him a BIG PILE of money. There is no deep meaning to any of his lyrics. There are no memorable melodies in his songs. It has ZERO musical value whatsoever.

I am not knocking those who listen to him. If you want to numb your mind with that crap, knock yourself out.

I personally enjoy good opera and good blues.<hr /></blockquote>It could be that your just close minded. Hell, if I listened to opera I'd want to die. But I can understand a persons passion for their own musical taste and can respect it. I hate when people judge an artist by what they hear on the radio or in the media. It's passing judgment on people you don't really even know. For instance, I remember the first album Em did. It was okay but not as good as the next. I couldn't stand his radio friendly songs until I flipped to MTV and saw "Stan" for the first time. If that song doesn't make you think twice, then your not hearing the music. If your all about the beat and trendyness(sp?) of music then you have no right to judge unless you hear the lyrics. Remember when Em caused that big stir at the MTV Music Video Awards? It was about him using words like "Fag", "Queer", etc... it caused a big controversy with the gay organizations. They thought because he was using the gay slang that it meant he was discriminating against gays for the public to here, and the public was buying it. How can you judge an artist by what you hear on the radio. Before you bash and criticize an artist you should first listen to all their music.
May 29th, 2002, 09:35 AM
Stanley_Kubrick

I've been listening to it for a couple of weeks now, and I dig it alot.

In Opiate's defense, I too think Eminem rocks, and believe that one can find value and/or meaning in his lyrics if one has the patience to listen. Although you can't please everybody I guess.

Although I wager that without Dr. Dre's influence, none of us would be listening to Em much these days.
May 29th, 2002, 09:44 AM
silencio

Look out, here comes my opinion! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

I think the music we listen to reflects our right brain just as much as the words we read reflect our left. There are a number of measurable elements that define emotional depth and complexity which can come from an analysis of what a person listens too and when.

Nine Inch Nails and Ministry are a couple of my angry music selections. I can't listen to hip hop (and I've really tried). It makes me feel like I'm pretending to be some kind of bada$$. And I don't like that feeling anymore. My need to feel like a bada$$ died in my late teens. But, that's just what it means to me.

I've been on a blues kick for a few years now... and all the music from every David Lynch movie ever made is on my hard drive (Under the Sycamore Tree and Llorando give me chills). Doug Adams recommends Bach's Fugue so after I've worn out Aphex Twin, that's going to be my next experience.

You can't say any music sucks objectively. It means different things to different people at different times (When I was 5 I really loved the Chipmonks).

That being said, subjectively, me theenks the little coated candies have more artistic value. :D
May 29th, 2002, 04:37 PM
jza734

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by korpse:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
WOW, I'm truly amazed at Em's new album The Eminem Show. It's just as good if not better then his last. Fat beats, raw lyrics....WOW! I thought he lost everything on the D4 project. I'm very impressed and am now a very assured Eminem fan. This guy will be around for awhile. I don't like allot of Hip Hop/Rap but I do like Dr. Dre, Snoop, Jay Z, LL Cool J and a few other's. My favorite music is Rock (please exclude Nickleback, Default, Puddle of Mud). I think you need to have an open mind to really listen to and enjoy music.

Wow, I cannot wait to get off work and go cruising listening to the new Em.<hr /></blockquote>Did you ever hear the MP3 of Eminem winning the rhyming words freestyle competition from before he was known? It is f'en amazing. Lemme know if you've heard it, I'm pretty sure its not copyrighted so if you haven't I'll post a link.<hr /></blockquote>yeah, that is an amazing feat of lyrical and vocal skill. I've got another cd called "detroit underground 2000" which displays eminem superior rapping skills.

BTW Don't get mad at the older guys, if it doesn't have a guitar, they think it's not musical. Get a grip everyone, music is music.
May 30th, 2002, 06:38 AM
kato

I like to think that truly great music transcends all musical labels and boundaries - at least for me it does. I'm no fan of hip hop or country for that matter, but when an album is intelligent and breaks new ground artistically, I can't help but enjoy it.

I pretty much hate rap/hip-hop but am a proud owner of Public Enemy's "fear of a black" planet, arrested developments "3 years 5 days. . . ." lauryn hill's "the miseducation of lauryn hill," and "pauls boutique" from the beastie boys Because all these albums broke new ground, and were intelligent.

Same with country. If you make me listen to a country radio station I'll probably jam blunt objects into my eyes repeatedly. But put on the "O brother where art thou" soundtrack, Dave carter and tracy grammer's "Drum Hat Buddha," or any of the last 3 CASH albums and I'll be quite entertained and enlightened.Great albums / songs transcend any genre or label.

That being said, I just don't get Eminem. Where is the truly unique musical value of it? Sure he has some very nice social and political commentary in his lyrics, but I question the sincerity of it. Especially when he raps about how it's none of our business if two men want to marry, then turns around in interviews and starts tossing around the word FAG.

It seems to all be for shock value. And that's okay. If that's your bag, then fine. But don't prentend to be an artist or have a opinion/belief when you are only saying things because they will offend or shock others.
May 30th, 2002, 06:51 PM
Radical Dreamer

I dont like to listen to music where people dont write+play their own music. Singing it is nothing but god given talent. Playing an instrument and writing music/lyrics shows that they have skill and have put in some time and effort.

Its the main reason that I dont listen to pop/rap/country