Slow writing on 24X CDRW

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July 15th, 2002, 10:16 PM
ClickHere2Surf.com

Slow writing on 24X CDRW

How come when my 24x CDRW drive is writing I always hear the disc spin up and spin down every 3 seconds instead of continuously writing and this makes writing CDs take more time than a 4x drive!

How to I make it write in a continous stream?

And no it's not my hard drive that's too slow I have a RAID 0 Array (200MB/Sec transfer rate).

Thanks
July 16th, 2002, 12:56 AM
freddy

maybe it,s set to write track at once instead of disk at once ,,,,what software (and ver) are u using?

FtF
July 16th, 2002, 06:29 AM
L15ard

Are you using XP, if so, you may want to check your apsi drivers/dll's, goto <a href="http://www.adaptec.com" target="_blank">Adaptec.com</a> and get the aspi software from there, that'll tell you what version your using, if any.

also if it is XP, your CD writer will be working in safe mode, so that's most probably why it spin up and down, to prtect the CD writer.

also check in your device manager to C if you drive controller is using PIO mode only, if so change it to DMA mode.

hope these tips help some...
July 18th, 2002, 10:05 AM
ClickHere2Surf.com

My CDRW seems to be running in UDMA2 mode. I am using Roxio Easy CD Creator 5 with Direct CD for drive letter access. Wether I am saving 50MB of tiny files or just 1 50MB file it still spins up and down all the time making it VERY slow (it's 24x and seems to be slower than my old 4x).

It's much faster when making music CDs, but still does spin up and down sometimes. Also, when I burn CDs my system often freezes until the CD is complete, how do I fix this?

I'm using Windows XP, I looked for the ASPI program but it said not to run it on XP.

Thanks
July 18th, 2002, 10:28 AM
Garak

get rid of direct cd and update to the latest roxio patch, direct cd has compatibility issues with XP

<a href="http://www.roxio.com/en/support/roxio_support/ecdc/ecdc_plat_51dl_t2.html" target="_blank">update here!</a>

good luck.
July 18th, 2002, 10:37 AM
ClickHere2Surf.com

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Garak:
get rid of direct cd and update to the latest roxio patch, direct cd has compatibility issues with XP

<a href="http://www.roxio.com/en/support/roxio_support/ecdc/ecdc_plat_51dl_t2.html" target="_blank">update here!</a>

good luck.<hr /></blockquote>How will I write by drive letter access if I remove direct cd?
July 18th, 2002, 11:31 AM
Tushar

You could try removing all other CD writing stuff and use Nero 5.5.9.0 & InCD 3.31. Also you don't need ASPI drivers for this. You should disable native XP CD writing support before you write any CD using InCD & Nero.

You can disable it as follows.

User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows explorer. Enable the tab marked "Remove CD burning features"

THIS DOES NOT STOP THIRD PARTY STUFF FROM WRITING CD & CDRW.
July 18th, 2002, 11:39 AM
ClickHere2Surf.com

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Tushar:
You could try removing all other CD writing stuff and use Nero 5.5.9.0 & InCD 3.31. Also you don't need ASPI drivers for this. You should disable native XP CD writing support before you write any CD using InCD & Nero.

You can disable it as follows.

User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows explorer. Enable the tab marked "Remove CD burning features"

THIS DOES NOT STOP THIRD PARTY STUFF FROM WRITING CD & CDRW.<hr /></blockquote>I need a program that allows drive letter access to the CDRW drive (so I can read and write to CDs as if it was a hard drive like DirectCD does). Do the programs you mentionned allow this?

Thanks
July 18th, 2002, 12:01 PM
Garak

well have you tried updating the roxio program????
July 18th, 2002, 12:03 PM
ClickHere2Surf.com

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Garak:
well have you tried updating the roxio program????<hr /></blockquote>I requires me to signup and I don't feel like it right now, I'll try later and tell you if it fixes anything.
July 18th, 2002, 04:16 PM
Radical Dreamer

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ClickHere2Surf.com:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Tushar:
You could try removing all other CD writing stuff and use Nero 5.5.9.0 & InCD 3.31. Also you don't need ASPI drivers for this. You should disable native XP CD writing support before you write any CD using InCD & Nero.

You can disable it as follows.

User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows explorer. Enable the tab marked "Remove CD burning features"

THIS DOES NOT STOP THIRD PARTY STUFF FROM WRITING CD & CDRW.<hr /></blockquote>I need a program that allows drive letter access to the CDRW drive (so I can read and write to CDs as if it was a hard drive like DirectCD does). Do the programs you mentionned allow this?

Thanks<hr /></blockquote>I am pretty sure that INcd will allow you to do this, I am sure that supports packet writing.
July 18th, 2002, 09:03 PM
The Rifleman

Yeah, InCD does drive letter access to CDRW, but what is the problem with XP's drive letter CD burning features?
July 18th, 2002, 09:19 PM
ClickHere2Surf.com

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by The Rifleman:
Yeah, InCD does drive letter access to CDRW, but what is the problem with XP's drive letter CD burning features?<hr /></blockquote>I tried it once and it doesnt burn in real time, you have to put the files and then update the cd, and im not sure it allows you to save files to cds from programs, does it?

Thanks
July 19th, 2002, 02:30 AM
L15ard

try this <a href="http://80.194.226.132/forum/downloadtracker.asp?download=../downloads/patches/aspi471.exe" target="_blank">Link</a> it has the aspi patch for XP, and does work, I'm using it on my machine, your CDRW does need it as my liteon (32x12x40) would only work in safe mode until I did this, due to the apsi layer software not being present in XP as it's been copyrighted by Adaptec, and M$ in their infinate wisdom wanted to move away from third party software.

Also go into your computer management > services and set the IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service to Manual and stop it, if it isn't already, this will stop XP asking you what you want to does with the insertion of a blank CD.
July 19th, 2002, 02:34 AM
NooNoo

I have to say Clickhere, I got really cross with XP native burning really quickly... And and I couldn't find anything about it apart from very bland explanations. When you drag and drop files, it then copies those files to a temp directory then tries to burn them - in essence doing the job twice.

As for drive letter copying, I found it gives system instabilities so what I now do it put a cdrw in, use Nero to burn the files, when I am done I copy the lot to a cdr for permanent storage and then get Nero to erase the CD.

Since I have just formatted, I might have another play with XP burning, before I turn it off and load nero again :D :D

Edit: L15ard I just saw your post

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> and M$ in their infinate wisdom wanted to move away from third party software<hr /></blockquote>Ironic that the XP native burning module was written by Roxio/Adaptec, isn't it!!
July 19th, 2002, 06:35 AM
Tushar

Exactly ClickHere2Surf.

InCD is a packet writing software and writes CDRW as if it were a big floppy. In fact when you want to use a CDRW for first time, it formats it to UDF standards and then you can use the "Send to" menu as if you were writing to a floppy or any other drive.

Note however that -
1) Disable any native XP CD writing support.
2) No ASPI layer required.
3) InCD must be started as a Run program from the registry (like the nvidia nView Desktop manager). It wont work if you start it from the Run prompt or a shortcut.
4) From the Nero site confirm it supports your writer. The model need not be specifically carrying the XP logo.

Do let me know if it has served your purpose.