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How does it rate for those who own one.
I am thinking of getting one, since it doubles as a DVD player. I want to know how you rate the DVD playback, and the DTS/Suround Sound capabilities.
If i can technically save myself some cash by buying a PS2 to use it as a DVD player as well more money for me...
MD
I love mine... its like the child I never wanted.
DVD playback isnt bad, Ive found the picture on some DVDs appear to be slightly elongated, but apparently there is an update packed with the remote control that fixes this (I cannot confirm that though), mine is also a PAL unit, so that may not effect the NTSC versions.
Its a good machine, for a good price. Go for it.
I just bought mine a bit over a month ago for the sole purpose of playing Metal Gear Solid 2. That game totally blew me away, and I'm still playing through it over and over again. I've also picked up Capcom vs. SNK 2 and Smackdown 3, and I'm pretty happy with it. There are lots of over games getting my attention that look awesome, mainly Devil May Cry, Grand Theft Auto 3, Soul Reaver 2 and Blood Omen 2.
DVD playback isn't bad, but it isn't great either. But I've already got a DVD player & a DVD-ROM, so I really haven't used the PS2 for that purpose much.
All in all, I'm happy with it. I still think if Sony wants to compete past this holiday season, they're going to have to drop the price of the unit. They aren't going to get another game like Metal Gear Solid 2 that will make someone buy the console just for one game - Final Fantasy X MAYBE....
Used to use one quite a bit, I've never been too sure about those MCA slots though :)
[quote]Originally posted by Outcoded:
<strong>Used to use one quite a bit, I've never been too sure about those MCA slots though :) </strong><hr></blockquote>
I'd like to see how you'd play a DVD on an IBM PS/2. :p
I bought mine about 2 months ago for the sole purpose of 2 new games that were coming out... Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 and Metal Gear Solid 2.
Both of them totally kick *** . I debated about getting a XBox, but the PS2's backwards-compatibility with PS1 games kind of enticed me towards it instead. There's a couple of PS1 games that I want to get yet and the fact that I can play games from two different consoles on the same one really appealed to me. :D
Also, the Playstation has always been known to have great games for all ages. Nintendo's consoles have turned into the G-rated style console. Too many kids games for it and not enough that appealed to the older audiences... unless your a big Pokemon fan. :rolleyes: I wasn't sure how the XBox was going to do since it was fresh to the consumer market. I really didn't want to take a chance on buying a $300 console that has great graphics and hope some good games actually come out for it besides Halo.
Oh well, just my two cents on the whole subject. NOW GO OUT AND GET YOURSELF A PS2! :cool:
[quote]Originally posted by MacGyver:
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I'd like to see how you'd play a DVD on an IBM PS/2. :p </strong><hr></blockquote>
I got an IBM PS/1, love that two button mouse.
I've had my PS2 since last April, and I still love it. Madden 2002, Metal Gear Solid 2, Tony Hawk 3, Gran Theft Auto 3 are all fantastic games. I'm also hiped about FFX coming out next week. I've only used the DVD once or twice, simply out of curiousity, and it's alright. I'll think I'll try it again, as I am using the Digital Optical and S-Video, wich is much better than my RCA cables on my DVD player. But, I'd also say that the DVD player is obviously a much better tool to play DVD's than the PS2, but if you really can't afford the extra $150-200 for a DVD player, the PS2 will suffice. It's kinda like those Microwave/Oven combinations. You can use the Microwave as an Oven, but you're still going to lose a bit of the quality and options you'll get from a real oven.
But, as far as gaming is concerned, I'll take a PS2 any day of the week. They still have the games, and the graphics of Xbox and Gamecuibe aren't impressive enough to make me go out and spend 300 or so for another game system.
Hopefully, Sony will get their act together, and release the Hard Drive and Network card for the PS2, so I can finally take on Cobra in a rousing game of Metal Gear Solid Online. hehehehe. That would be sweet. Or even playing the PS2's version of Unreal Tourniment Online.
By the way Cobra, I bought MGS2 last Sat., and I must say I'm very impressed, but also very disapointed in the game, as I'd really like to play as Snake longer, and the game seemed really, really short to me. I had it beat by the following Tuesday, and that was with me doing a fairly large amount of work to fix it.
I got my PS2 about a month ago. I bought the Gran Turismo 3: A Spec pack ($329.99). The best racing game ever. I have really been playing GTA3 a lot lately. Those two games alone whould keep me happy for a very long time :D I also have the original Play Station, and still have all my games which works out great with the PS2. I have that DVD update and control and the only problem I can see with the DVD is everyonce and a while I get a very small flicker across the screen, But everything else is very good. It is diffenecly the best choice out there. ;)
thanks alot for the input..
I am going to wait for the price to come down befor I drop any cash inot the PS2... but I think i will get one now...
The thing is i wanted it for the dvd player. I have one, but it is in our living room not my room where i spend all the gameing time.
Its a hassle to move the dvd to my room then back when i am done.
So i will get it as a temporary to an acctual DVD player for my self.
Thanks
MD
I just bought mine about 2 weeks ago and love it.. I've been wanting one ever since it first came out, but finally got one when my girl dumped me.. I just used the birthday and Christmas money I had put up for her. Pretty good exchange huh? :p
[quote]Originally posted by Quiet Thunder:
<strong>By the way Cobra, I bought MGS2 last Sat., and I must say I'm very impressed, but also very disapointed in the game, as I'd really like to play as Snake longer, and the game seemed really, really short to me. I had it beat by the following Tuesday, and that was with me doing a fairly large amount of work to fix it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know the feeling, I was also disappointed in some of the story developments as well. I'm on my 6th play through trying to get all the dog tags (just beat the Tanker stage in extreme) and I gotta say, though, that I see the point of why they plugged Raiden in most of the game. It was to give you a true 3rd person perspective of Snake. You get to see just how legendary & famous Snake is, and how much of an idol he is to a young "rookie" soldier. While I still would rather play as Snake directly, it was an interesting way to handle a popular video game character, and pretty cool after you get the point of it. Besides Hideo Kojima (creator of Metal Gear series) has said that Raiden is most likely a one time character, and that if there is a Metal Gear Solid 3 - like there won't be :rolleyes: - it will be all Snake.
Besides, it doesn't matter who I'm playing as - as long as I can get the stealth camo & run around planting C4 on enemy soldiers' backs, turning them into walking time bombs, I'm happy. :D
And despite the fact that he "swings both ways" I gotta say Vamp was one of the coolest characters in the Metal Gear series.
I just thought that Raiden was a pu$$y. I hated the way he handled the girlfriend, and it seemed like he couldn't handle himself in his situation. Everytime something would come up, I'd want to smack him for being a wussy. Dosn't seem right, especially with his background. So, I thought storyline was pretty crappy, but game play kicked major but. I'm thinking about getting the first game and possibly VR, now. I never really got into the first game, but I never really gave it a chance.
BTW, the story line left it WAY open for a trillogy. Also, I herd the director, and a few of the major buffs were retiring, so who'll be left over to take over the third game. And how good will it be?
Yes, there are definately too many unanswered questions for there to not be at least a third Metal Gear Solid. Whether he "directs" or not, I'm sure Kojima will definately play a major hand in at least the plot development for MGS3. It's his baby, he's not gonna let someone else completely screw it up.
The worst thing about MGS2's story was fact that most of the new characters seemed so one dimensional. All the returning ones - Ocelot, Otacon, and of course, Snake - were great, but characters like FatMan, Fortune, and even Solidus just didn't do it for me, not when compared to the original's tight cast of Vulcan Raven, Psycho Mantis, Liquid, etc. Although again, Vamp was pretty cool. A bit off the wall for an MGS2 game, but definately cool.
Still, you gotta admit, it was pretty cool when the Col. started spazzing out at the end of the game. "I need scissors! 61!"
[quote]Originally posted by FastAndFurious:
<strong>I got my PS2 about a month ago. I bought the Gran Turismo 3: A Spec pack ($329.99). The best racing game ever. I have really been playing GTA3 a lot lately. Those two games alone whould keep me happy for a very long time :D I also have the original Play Station, and still have all my games which works out great with the PS2. I have that DVD update and control and the only problem I can see with the DVD is everyonce and a while I get a very small flicker across the screen, But everything else is very good. It is diffenecly the best choice out there. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>
Gotta call ya on that one there. GT2 is the best game ever. I find 3 to be sadly lacking in cars though the new tracks are nice. They royally hosed the physics engine which I find makes the game almost unplayable without using the formula 1 racers.
Otherwise the PS2 is where it's at.
[quote]Originally posted by MacGyver:
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I'd like to see how you'd play a DVD on an IBM PS/2. :p </strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm sure someone out there's working on it...
[quote]Originally posted by ilovetheusers:
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Gotta call ya on that one there. GT2 is the best game ever. I find 3 to be sadly lacking in cars though the new tracks are nice. They royally hosed the physics engine which I find makes the game almost unplayable without using the formula 1 racers.
Otherwise the PS2 is where it's at.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes, you are right... GT2 had I think over 500 cars? The thing I don't like about GT3 is that there aren't any used cars, makes it kinda hard to start out. But if I had to chose between GT2 and GT3 A-spec, I would choose the later. You are right about the cars though. :D
GT3 = no Pontiac. No Trans Am = not cool.
I still prefer GT2.
Amen. I heard there were going to be Aussie cars in it, and the only one that made it, was the XR8 race car. Gayness Maximus.
They even removed my favourite racing view.. bastards.
[quote]Originally posted by Cobra:
<strong>GT3 = no Pontiac. No Trans Am = not cool.
I still prefer GT2.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh yeah, we dont have MGS2 yet either.. or Capcom VS SNK2 .. im dieing to get my hands on CVS2 .. whats it like Cobra?
[quote]Originally posted by EvilCabbage:
<strong>Oh yeah, we dont have MGS2 yet either.. or Capcom VS SNK2 .. im dieing to get my hands on CVS2 .. whats it like Cobra?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Undoubtedly the best 2D fighter I've ever played. Uses the Capcom 6 button layout as opposed to the 4 button SNK layout like the first one did. You can choose from 6 different fighting styles, or create your own, which is a very nice feature.
Tons of modes, like 3 on 3, 1 on 1, survival, etc. My only gripe is that there's no reall consistent artwork in the game - Keny, Ryu & Akuma are all drawn in the Street Fighter 3 styles, while the bulk of the Capcom characters have an SF Alpha-like appearance. Most of the SNK characters seem to have been re-drawn from scratch, which is cool.
I'm kinda disappointed that some characters didn't make it in...like no Andy Bogard, Birdie, Gen, Rose and tons of other Street Figther Alpha characters are missing.
But overall, it's great. Making a badass team of Akuma, Geese Howard & Bison rules! :D
Excellent!
Im a big Ken fan, myself. :D
If only they would port some of the big Arcade brawlers over, Marvel Super Heros VS Street Fighter, and so on ... *sigh*
[quote]Originally posted by Cobra:
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Undoubtedly the best 2D fighter I've ever played. Uses the Capcom 6 button layout as opposed to the 4 button SNK layout like the first one did. You can choose from 6 different fighting styles, or create your own, which is a very nice feature.
Tons of modes, like 3 on 3, 1 on 1, survival, etc. My only gripe is that there's no reall consistent artwork in the game - Keny, Ryu & Akuma are all drawn in the Street Fighter 3 styles, while the bulk of the Capcom characters have an SF Alpha-like appearance. Most of the SNK characters seem to have been re-drawn from scratch, which is cool.
I'm kinda disappointed that some characters didn't make it in...like no Andy Bogard, Birdie, Gen, Rose and tons of other Street Figther Alpha characters are missing.
But overall, it's great. Making a badass team of Akuma, Geese Howard & Bison rules! :D </strong><hr></blockquote>
Hah, you and your silly street fighter stuff. Tekken Tag is the way to go. That game is really nice.
Go yoshimitsu!
To each his own. I've just always been more of a fan of Capcom's 2D fighters. Nothing against Tekken, it's the best of the 3D fighters, but I prefer SF's combo system...specificly SFA2&3.
And yeah, EC...when I go into straight up one on ones, Ken is my boy. Or if I do a ration match, I always position Ken as my lead off guy.
Shinryuken!
Yeah.. Tekken Tag has kept me ammused for a few weeks, but its no SF.
Im looking forward to the new Virtua Fighter game, looks rather funky indeed.
Oh yeah, GTA3 is still banned down here. The OFLC board has told Take2 they need to recode it.. what a pack of wankers.
[quote]Originally posted by Cobra:
<strong>Still, you gotta admit, it was pretty cool when the Col. started spazzing out at the end of the game. "I need scissors! 61!"</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yea, I was laughing my arse off!! What was that clip from that old Arcade game?? I remember the game well, but can't remember the name. Still think a nakid Raiden was pretty hilarous. hehehehe. I'm currently going through my second run through the game, with most gameshark codes enabled. I usually will beat the game once, then start playing with codes.
I'm using the armor, stealth, and bandana. How do you get these items without cheating? BTW, Stealth is really cool. I like to light up some C4 kill a dozen guards, then prevent anyone from seeing me. They go nuts.
[quote]Originally posted by Cobra:
<strong>But overall, it's great. Making a badass team of Akuma, Geese Howard & Bison rules! :D </strong><hr></blockquote>
Akuma and Bison are over-powered, especially Akuma. Never liked them, but I bet it is easy to make a kick-*** team when you take all of the over-powered, cheap characters and put them together.
Anyway, are you using the standard dual shock or an arcade stick? I cannot do any real 6 button fighting or precision combos using the shoulder buttons and a d-pad. I also haven't been able to find and really solid arcade sticks. Al the ones I have seen are these weak, clicky, cheap plastic dealies. I'm not spending money on that.
As for the GT3/GT2 thingie, GT2 on the Dreamcast kicks butt. You get massively improved graphics, plus all of the GT2 cars, physics and fun that seems to have been left out of GT3. The GT2 Bleemcast still has to work within the limitations of the GT2 engine, but all of the textures are sharper and everything is much cleaner. I don't even play my GT3 anymore.
Finally, the DVD player. . .it is crap. Any new $150+ player will beat the pants off of it in terms of picture quality and features. I am not a videophile or anything, but even the $250 DVD player I got 3 years ago displays a significantly better picture than the PS2. I think the word that best describes the picture quality of the PS2 is craptastic.
[quote]Originally posted by Quiet Thunder:
<strong>I'm using the armor, stealth, and bandana. How do you get these items without cheating? BTW, Stealth is really cool. I like to light up some C4 kill a dozen guards, then prevent anyone from seeing me. They go nuts.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The armor is somewhere in the plant, second floor of Strut F or G if I remember correctly. I dunno, I never really worried too much with it.
Stealth (tanker) = collect 60 dog tags in the tanker stage.
Stealth (big shell) = collect 120 dog tags in the plant.
Bandana (tanker) = collect 50 dog tags in the tanker.
Infinite ammo wig (plant) = collect 100 dog tags in the plant stage.
I like doing the simple things...walking right up in front of a soldier with stealth on, then hold them up. "decloack" in front of them, with something like the Stinger or grenade launcher select, and watch them piss themselves (literally). Some soldiers even cry when they see a Stinger launcher locked on to them. :D
Then I like to make human time bombs by planting C4 on a soldier with stealth on. Let him patrol his route then as he gets close to another sentry - BOOM!! Hehehe sometimes if you do it on a catwalk, they all go flying over the railing and fall to their doom. :D
Oh yeah, BTW, that clip from that old game is the original Metal Gear for NES/MSX.
[quote]Originally posted by Kymera:
<strong>Akuma and Bison are over-powered, especially Akuma. Never liked them, but I bet it is easy to make a kick-*** team when you take all of the over-powered, cheap characters and put them together.</strong><hr></blockquote>
*sigh* I see you have obviously never played C vs. SNK 2, as Bison/Akuma are both majorly toned down. Geese is actually the cheapest link on my team, Bison & Akuma have several weaknesses if you know how to properly expose them. Why do I feel like we've had this discussion before?
[quote]<strong>Anyway, are you using the standard dual shock or an arcade stick? I cannot do any real 6 button fighting or precision combos using the shoulder buttons and a d-pad. I also haven't been able to find and really solid arcade sticks. Al the ones I have seen are these weak, clicky, cheap plastic dealies. I'm not spending money on that.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sadly, I'm still on the plain old dual shock. It works well enough for me, not as good as a stick, but games come before peripherals, and there's quite a few more games I must have first.
[quote]Originally posted by Cobra:
<strong>*sigh* I see you have obviously never played C vs. SNK 2, as Bison/Akuma are both majorly toned down. Geese is actually the cheapest link on my team, Bison & Akuma have several weaknesses if you know how to properly expose them. Why do I feel like we've had this discussion before?
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Yeah, we have, and I almost bought CvSNK2 last night but instead I bought SSX:Tricky for the Xbox, and have learned that to play it well I need to be double-jointed in all the fingers of my right hand.
[quote]Originally posted by Kymera:
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Yeah, we have, and I almost bought CvSNK2 last night but instead I bought SSX:Tricky for the Xbox, and have learned that to play it well I need to be double-jointed in all the fingers of my right hand.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If I was double jointed in all the fingers in my right hand, I'd NEVER leave the house.
I'd love to hear the reasoning behind that theory. . .
[quote]Originally posted by Kymera:
<strong>I'd love to hear the reasoning behind that theory. . .</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ummm....I'll PM ya...
I'm still waiting . . . ;)
Hmmm...well, it's almost Christmas, and you know how slow the postal service is around the holidays. Why should PMs be any different? I'm sure it'll be there sooner or later. I'll go ask Scott...yeah, ask Scott, that's a good idea, that's what I'll do.