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I for one do NOT understand why KoWind7's post was closed, he said nothing out of line, and I for one agree with him. He was NOT doing the same thing himself. Only stating his opinion, is that now against the WD law??? Hmm....maybe I'll ask the local sherriff what he thinks.
I couldnt agree more
see my thoughts here http://forums.windrivers.com/cgi-bin...=002115#000000
And mine are on Mustangs thread as well....
I hate having to break my promise not to post again but , sowulo you and I both know that Kowinds post was nowhere near out of line.
as a moderator you should realize that personal vendetta's and preferences should have nothing to do with any decision you make whether it be to close or delete a topic.
whether your "tired" of such posts does not mean you have free reign over all such topics to do what you wish.
Well, Congratulations to you as well. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">Quote:
Originally posted by Sowulo:
<STRONG>And mine are on Mustangs thread as well....</STRONG>
I agree with what Creeping Death said as well. Good job cd.
CD has a valid point as did Kowind
the rest of my views can be found on the above link
I'm just trying to follow DriverGuy's direction....I really don't like having to deal with some of this stuff anymore than the rest of you....And perhaps my actions wouldn't have been so strong if it hadn't have been for that "tribute" piece that Kowind and others posted here tonight hadn't have happened. That post was the worst violation of Windrivers' rules I've seen here in quite awhile.....Quote:
Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
<STRONG>I hate having to break my promise not to post again but , sowulo you and I both know that Kowinds post was nowhere near out of line.
as a moderator you should realize that personal vendetta's and preferences should have nothing to do with any decision you make whether it be to close or delete a topic.
whether your "tired" of such posts does not mean you have free reign over all such topics to do what you wish.</STRONG>
you might want to read my post on the "tribute" again...oh wait...you deleted that, so I'll quote it here...Quote:
Originally posted by Sowulo:
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I'm just trying to follow DriverGuy's direction....I really don't like having to deal with some of this stuff anymore than the rest of you....And perhaps my actions wouldn't have been so strong if it hadn't have been for that "tribute" piece that Kowind and others here tonight hadn't have happened. That post was the worst violation of Windrivers' rules I've seen here in quite awhile.....</STRONG>
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I guess it doesn't matter if you actually answer people's questions, or even ask good ones...
I guess it doesn't matter that you can be banned on multiple occasions for being childish or moronic (your choice)...
I guess it doesn't matter that you couldn't spell cat if you were spotted the "c" and the "a"...
Just post 1000 times about your itcy nut sac and become a tech god!!
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As has been said many times before...lose the stars and status...then only let the mods give them to people who are truly diserving...
I'll be the first to admit that SOME of the posts were violations, but not all...
I'll even admit that the comments I just quoted were not directed at JUST Jmm, but several other people who have obatined such a status in the very same way...
I guess I never realized how important the stars and status are to some here. I thought most would judge posts on the quality of their advice rather than how many times they've posted. I always saw the stars and titles as harmless fun. But if they a few users this upset, I will reconsider my position in the matter.....Quote:
Originally posted by KoWind7:
<STRONG>Just post 1000 times about your itcy nut sac and become a tech god!!
As has been said many times before...lose the stars and status...then only let the mods give them to people who are truly diserving...
I'll be the first to admit that SOME of the posts were violations, but not all...
I'll even admit that the comments I just quoted were not directed at JUST ***, but several other people who have obatined such a status in the very same way...</STRONG>
The stars and status would be fine IF they were earned on merit, not just the number of posts someone has.Quote:
Originally posted by Sowulo:
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I guess I never realized how important the stars and status are to some here. I thought most would judge posts on the quality of their advice rather than how many times they've posted. I always saw the stars and titles as harmless fun. But if they a few users this upset, I will reconsider my position in the matter.....</STRONG>
Maybe setup the rating system for people with 1000+ posts...if they keep a 4-5 (or whatever), then they get the status....
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Originally posted by KoWind7:
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The stars and status would be fine IF they were earned on merit, not just the number of posts someone has.
Maybe setup the rating system for people with 1000+ posts...if they keep a 4-5 (or whatever), then they get the status....</STRONG>
I understand. However, as has been discussed before, there is plenty of room for abuse in a public rating system as well. As an example, we all know that Darren is one of the most qualified techs anywhere. We also know that there were a few users here who decided to give him crap, so much in fact, that he resigned as a mod to everyone's loss. Now, imagine one of those users deciding to vote Darren as a 1 instead of a 5 a bunch of times. From then on, Darren would have a lower rating than someone else who hadn't been targeted for the attack. Now that would truly be a tragedy....
If possible with the rating system, we could find some way to make the complainer/praiser give reason for his/her words and vote towards/against a person, it could be set to public or a private comment but at least if they were just pissed and trying to mar someones name they would have to make up a lot of names, ip's, and reasons. Anyone that knows UBB, could this be incorporated?
Yeah, I don't think that a ratings system is a possible way to go. That would increase the foolishness and bull$h!t around here 500%. As for the number of stars and such, if I post a problem and a good solution is given, I don't care how many stars the poster has. I might try Sowulo's solution first, not because he has 10 stars or whatever, but because I've seen he gives quality advice. If JMM proposes a good solution, I'll try it, even if most of his posts or stars were gained in the tech lounge (or so I'm told). What it comes down to is that you can't really take the stars too seriously I guess. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">
Stars?!? This is about the freakin' stars? I say remove them.
*UPDATE* OK, found the post in question. I won't comment on if it should have been closed or not, as it is not up to me. But I am now starting to see what some of the arguing is about. BTW, what happened to Clam's question thread? Has that gone, too?
Take off the stars and the titles. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">
I can't believe this dead-horse topic is being beat repeatedly. There aint much of a horse left anymore! Look at the rules, which can be accessed by clicking on "RULES" at the top of the page. Here is a quote from the rules page:
Which I have to completely agree with. Cmon people! The primary purpose of these forums is about people helping people. Everytime we lose sight of that, the boards go down the tubes.Quote:
Most problems are childish and usually just clog the forum with trash.
Like Sowulo said: Don't forget that Scott runs this site the way he sees fit, and undoubtedly the owners have their say on how it's run, too. So don't get on the mods case, they have a tough enough job and I know first hand the BS they have to put up with. Click on the link in my sig below if you don't believe me. IMHO the mods here do a fine job, and no matter how good they are, they're not perfect. Just like a referee or umpire in a sporting event. So cut your fellow human being some slack.
Not even MacGyver could fix this <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
cd great to have your back ,you add a lttle sparkel here at the wd sight,thanxz 4 the jokes , best thread here!!
next topic: I know if you have a problem with a mod or anyone this forums not the place to post it ,maybe post a link or an invite to a nice dark and sleazy chatroom some where you can all use profanity at will , or suggest that person take the medication their phsyciatris prescribes
/dont go there// next topic::
i know the starz thingy status stuff kinda
causes a lttle controversy , but who moderatorates moderators any way , would that be their wifes job?? or d-g ? who moderates the coffee room?? i would like to see those posts! just once , i bet you they have a huge thread with the s-list of people and a list of people to be banned , i wonder where im at on that list?? maybe i shouldn't eaven go there myself with this one , i usually try for a chuckle some where in my posts, and im not serious where i do that , ppl read between the lines but i guess i should do it like this [jk] yada ada yada [/jk] in other words i dont really want to know where im on the list , and you guy can stop deleteing those threads in the cofee room now i was only kidding about going there , i know theres something good there i know it i know it i know it [/joke] <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
If you would have read all the threads starting from midnight last night, you would understand, and not think that this is a "dead horse".Quote:
Originally posted by MacGyver:
<STRONG>I can't believe this dead-horse topic is being beat repeatedly. There aint much of a horse left anymore...</STRONG>
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa. lame very lame get your act together and start playing as a team...... people Together not as individuals trying to control the pecking order for personal gain and STARDOM or GODHOOD.........
What threads besides "police state" are there?Quote:
Originally posted by Sheriff Q:
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If you would have read all the threads starting from midnight last night, you would understand, and not think that this is a "dead horse".</STRONG>
See the Crime and Punishment threads and a couple of others that were deleted by a moderator(not myself)Quote:
Originally posted by Bracius:
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What threads besides "police state" are there?</STRONG>
I don't want to sound like a total monkey on this, but how can I see a thread that has been deleted?Quote:
Originally posted by Sheriff Q:
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See the Crime and Punishment threads and a couple of others that were deleted by a moderator(not myself)</STRONG>
hehehe Bracius, it's good to know SOMEBODY understands my position!!!
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Monkey? Did you say monkey? You can't say that. shame on you.Quote:
Originally posted by Bracius:
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I don't want to sound like a total monkey on this, but how can I see a thread that has been deleted?</STRONG>
hwood.
Monkey
Can there be a web page built that will allow all forum users, over a 2 week period, to put in basic suggestions on things that could be done to resolve the problem? Something with pre-defined suggestions derived from this topic? I like this forum, and I know that some things will go apparently unnoticed. This isn't one that will die without some effort to resolve it. I won't openly disagree with anyone on this yet. So I'd like to know if someone can work up a simple web page that will allow the users of the foums to put in a vote of a request for some changes that will make people happy. DG will probably have final say in things, but it will give him a beeter understanding of it's main users feelings toward certain things.
I don't know what the h*ll is going on around here. I am so confused.
I am reading what is in this thread and there is one thing that I fully agree on. Public ratings suck. I personally don't care how many stars I have or how many posts. I don't care how many anyone else has. I never paid attention to it. I read the post and move on with my life. I do not dwell on what is said or done on the internet. I move on. This is the World Wide Web. That means you have billions of people out there that could potentially say something that might make you feel bad. Live with it. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">
By the way I think that too many posts are getting closed or edited. This is not my decision. This is based on guidelines that DG setup and those are probably based on what the owner of the site wants.
As for bashing the mods, I never had a problem with any job that someone does for free.
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Originally posted by Larommi:
<STRONG>I don't know what the h*ll is going on around here. I am so confused.
I am reading what is in this thread and there is one thing that I fully agree on. Public ratings suck. I personally don't care how many stars I have or how many posts. I don't care how many anyone else has. I never paid attention to it. I read the post and move on with my life. I do not dwell on what is said or done on the internet. I move on. This is the World Wide Web. That means you have billions of people out there that could potentially say something that might make you feel bad. Live with it. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
i have to agree with Larommi on this one
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He makes a fine point doesn't he. I don't think anyone is really even considering public ratings, so I'm not even going to mention it. As for all the other stuff, I think people really lose sight of the fact that this is a forum for help with computers. If you need help, or want to offer help, by all means, go nuts! The only thing that can really be legitimately complained about is whether or not people's problems are being solved. I personally don't get a salary bonus if I attain Tech God status at WinDrivers. It doesn't automatically get me into heaven, or win me a new car. The stars are a worthless way to add a little fun. This is probably just a problem that will fade out in a little while, then crop up again in a few months. Hopefully it's all a part of the WD growing pains. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">Quote:
Originally posted by Larommi:
<STRONG>I don't know what the h*ll is going on around here. I am so confused.
I am reading what is in this thread and there is one thing that I fully agree on. Public ratings suck. I personally don't care how many stars I have or how many posts. I don't care how many anyone else has. I never paid attention to it. I read the post and move on with my life. I do not dwell on what is said or done on the internet. I move on. This is the World Wide Web. That means you have billions of people out there that could potentially say something that might make you feel bad. Live with it. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
I think this thread was started to ruffle up feathers because someone couldn't reach somebody directly because they didn't know who that somebody was that deleted a thread or two or more. What I would like to know is who is banned and how I can email them to see if they have their own forums to go to instead of coming here.
ya. the ratings system kinda sux.. look at me.. im an advanced tech or whatever, and i havent really helped ppl out that much.. most of my posts have been in here, and that was only so that i could get up a custom avatar @ 200, then it was to get on the friends page @ 300...
needless to say i have stopped posting with abandon and am going to try and only post from now on on topics that i feel my input would be appreciated on, such as this one.
and for all the mod bashers that got Darren to resign, shame on you... Darren was one of the best mods that this forum ever had, and you guys gave him enuff sh*t the he left. plus, it was always good to see him and cobra go off at each other.