http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/...081602X,00.asp
This is too funny...now they are getting sued because the P4 sucks so much (IMO) :p :D
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http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/...081602X,00.asp
This is too funny...now they are getting sued because the P4 sucks so much (IMO) :p :D
Another example of people being "Sue Happy", I wont comment on the Intel vs. Amd though... its useless..
I agree with you there... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by cc_penguin
Another example of people being "Sue Happy", I wont comment on the Intel vs. Amd though... its useless..
Suing for petty reasons is getting so popular it should be added as an offical event to the next olympic games. :rolleyes:
That comment I 1/2 agree with. Some benchmarks have been written to be better for one processor over the other, and vice versa, so benchmarking isn't THE best way to determine the performance of a chip. Its a good tool, but not something you should solely make your choice on. (what about reliability, expected life, etc?)Quote:
"The right answer really is benchmarks," he says. "We need to have a way that people can really see the difference between PCs."
Man, you gotta be f'in kidding me. I could give 5 reasons to go with Intel over AMD right now but will not so we don't have the AMD vs Intel debate flare up. This is litigious bull**** at it's worst.
Is it perhaps true that incremental CPU upgrades just aren't all that important anymore?
Anyway, I agree this is overly litigious.
Fine I guess I will sue AMD for this stupid chip rating that misleads the customers and sales people. Seems to be a stronger case then your products sucks like the original suit claims.
Anyone notice that they are suing compaq and HP? I would never ever trust a benchmark ran on one of these computers anyhow!
By the way, Ford and Chrystler I think your vehicles suck so get your lawyers ready!
Hey, if you don't do you'r homework when buying a pc, you may get screwed. That's it. Hell I bought a Cyrix once. Did I sue? Hell no. It was still a lot faster than my old 486.
They say that there is no benefit to consumers in choosing the Pentium 4 over the Pentium 3. What a load of poop. The increase in clock speed makes up for the lower performance per hz. Plus you have a faster memory interface.
At a price ;) , so no benefit!? unless you pay, which is a contradiction... but I'm confus-ed(Ha!)...Quote:
Originally posted by D65536
......They say that there is no benefit to consumers in choosing the Pentium 4 over the Pentium 3. What a load of poop. The increase in clock speed makes up for the lower performance per hz. Plus you have a faster memory interface.
Windoze is the problem & Von Whatshisname Architecture, Processors are fast enough we can't move the stuff to the right places fast enough, if you wanna go faster get some processors being co-operative....
So stick that up your Intel V AMD debate!:flame: :D :D :D
:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
isn't this amazing how we are managing to keep this away from the age old intel/amd debate?
I'm proud :cool:
just curious which is better?? intel or amd
:D :D
neither...cyrix :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by DiR[ëctory]
just curious which is better?? intel or amd
:D :D
:eek2: bwahahahaha you gotta be kidding? Surely your not serious??? :eek2:Quote:
Originally posted by Fubarian
neither...cyrix :eek:
I do believe they(cyrix) are superior in the temprature department. Or at least the current generation is. I heard many stories of old cyrix chips getting WAY too hot. :flame:Quote:
Originally posted by Fubarian
neither...cyrix :eek:
<h1>NO COMMENT</h1>
:D :p :D :p
Aw man - now see - you all have your heads up yer butts with your cyrix, amd and intel chips. Shoot - I got be on of those new bangin' 500mhz VIA chips with a super 7 mobo - oh yeah....
VIA!!!!!
No, serriously. Now that the difference in speed is miniscule and barely registered - who cares? You can say that one is faster than the other and bring out whatever statistics you want but in reality the difference is almost non existant. it's a stupid debate. Besides - the most important thing is ALL of the components. You can have all the best items and one bad part will crap the whole thing up.
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Originally posted by ilovetheusers
[B]Aw man - now see - you all have your heads up yer butts with your cyrix, amd and intel chips. Shoot - I got be on of those new bangin' 500mhz VIA chips with a super 7 mobo - oh yeah....
AHHHHHHH!!!! NOT SUPER 7!!!!
The memories are just too painful.:eek: :uke:
Hey now.... I am running a Super 7 mobo that for the last 2 years (:eek: Has it been 2 years??!!??!!??) and it is rock steady man! :D And its on a VIA chipset.Quote:
Originally posted by ilovetheusers
Aw man - now see - you all have your heads up yer butts with your cyrix, amd and intel chips. Shoot - I got be on of those new bangin' 500mhz VIA chips with a super 7 mobo - oh yeah....
VIA!!!!!
:eek2:
Thank God my wonderful wife wanted to build a second computer for our first year wedding anniversary. HEY WAIT A MINUTE.... OUR SECOND YEAR WEDDING ANNIVERSARY IS COMING UP IN FEBRUARY!!!
;) ;) ;)
I meant the new CPU's they put out - for socket 7 (I think they were the old cyrix chips with a new name).Quote:
Originally posted by Tazdrummer
Hey now.... I am running a Super 7 mobo that for the last 2 years (:eek: Has it been 2 years??!!??!!??) and it is rock steady man! :D And its on a VIA chipset.
:eek2:
Thank God my wonderful wife wanted to build a second computer for our first year wedding anniversary. HEY WAIT A MINUTE.... OUR SECOND YEAR WEDDING ANNIVERSARY IS COMING UP IN FEBRUARY!!!
;) ;) ;)
Ah the joys of having someone who understands getting new hardware. I have already explained to my girlie that the PC's always come first and there would need to be a new one every single year we were together money and other things be damned. She said "Oh really, great!" then she said something sexual. I almost instantly knew she was the one for me.:kiss:
Maybe you like to burn your money? J/K :DQuote:
I could give 5 reasons to go with Intel over AMD right now
As for the P4s being slower, the original ones, 1.3Ghz etc, were often slower or same speed as the P3s. And look at the new Celerons, check out Anandtech's review, the 1.7 gig is beat or matched by the original Celeron and the Duron in some cases.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ilovetheusers
[B]
I meant the new CPU's they put out - for socket 7 (I think they were the old cyrix chips with a new name).
Actually I believe it's the C3 and it is not super 7 but Socket 370. Not positive though... It is a good alternative for a workstation as it is VERY cool. I think it's something like 12 watts compared to 35 for Celeron, 65 for Duron and 75 for Athlon/P4.
I'm not going intot he intel vs amd debate - scott will kill the whole dang thread if we start pulling out stats and crap.Quote:
Originally posted by JungleMan1
Maybe you like to burn your money? J/K :D
As for the P4s being slower, the original ones, 1.3Ghz etc, were often slower or same speed as the P3s. And look at the new Celerons, check out Anandtech's review, the 1.7 gig is beat or matched by the original Celeron and the Duron in some cases.
I've had a zero problems with either AMD or Intel stuff. Zero.
I have had some problems with motherboards made for the T-birds and that soured me to them. If I can't get what I consider to be a decent chipset for the T-birds and above then I'm not getting one. As I said above - you have to get all decent parts or thing runs like a piece o' poo. I consider the boards with intel chipsets to be better boards from personal experience, and the opposite for sis and via.
My 2 cents.
Oh - as for burning money - a 2000 and a 2ghz retail on newegg have an $8 difference. ;)
Newegg quotes the XP2100 Retail at $139 and the 2.0A at $195...re-check the prices :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by ilovetheusers
Oh - as for burning money - a 2000 and a 2ghz retail on newegg have an $8 difference. ;)
Also an XP2200 is $175 (OEM...but still)
I don't mean to start an Intel vs AMD myself either, I have also owned an Intel system and it's been stable too (my VIA KT266a has been pretty stable too), I'm just impressed with my XP1600 that sells for $50-something and mine has OCed to 1.75GHz on air cooling. A lot of chip for not a lot of cash ;)
Anyhoo...:)
You are right. I was looking at the MP's. My bad.Quote:
Originally posted by JungleMan1
Newegg quotes the XP2100 Retail at $139 and the 2.0A at $195...re-check the prices :confused:
Also an XP2200 is $175 (OEM...but still)
I don't mean to start an Intel vs AMD myself either, I have also owned an Intel system and it's been stable too (my VIA KT266a has been pretty stable too), I'm just impressed with my XP1600 that sells for $50-something and mine has OCed to 1.75GHz on air cooling. A lot of chip for not a lot of cash ;)
Anyhoo...:)
I can vouch that about 1 month ago they were identical. I swear!