i HAVE A QUESTION,
wheres the caps lock key, ahh there it is...
no really,
Whats the big deal about spam?? delete it, and get over ithttp://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/jwatson/bomb.gif
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i HAVE A QUESTION,
wheres the caps lock key, ahh there it is...
no really,
Whats the big deal about spam?? delete it, and get over ithttp://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/jwatson/bomb.gif
http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/jwatson/evil_cat.jpg
People say that, they also say that spam is no worse than TV commercials so why get all upset over them?
Well, three reasons:
First I use dial-up. Every time I get a spam I have to change my screen name, which may take awhile just to make sure I didn't get a message that was really important. So they're a time waster
Second, if a TV commercial is deceptive they can be taken to court and put off the air. Not so with spam. Some spam is downright crooked, TV descramblers, loose weight overnight, free trip to the Bahamas, millions to be made in 'email advertising' etc. Because it is crooked it can take advantage of people who are naieve and vulnerable, IE. , the old, the sick, the poor etc.
Thirdly, alot of it is pornographic. Once I had my neighbor's 10-year daughter with me and we were on the computer. All the sudden I get a porno spam. I don't want to repeat what it said in the title line, and the moderator of this forum would probably edit it if I did, but it was pretty bad. I don't think kids should be exposed to that kind of thing.
Well, that's my rant about spam!! I just hate it and I think spammers should be shot along with all telephone solicitors.
:D
PS. ....and I used to be a telephone solicitor. It was my first job. Not any more.
PSQuote:
Originally posted by Orangeman
People say that, they also say that spam is no worse than TV commercials so why get all upset over them?
Well, three reasons:
First I use dial-up. Every time I get a spam I have to change my screen name, which may take awhile just to make sure I didn't get a message that was really important. So they're a time waster
Second, if a TV commercial is deceptive they can be taken to court and put off the air. Not so with spam. Some spam is downright crooked, TV descramblers, loose weight overnight, free trip to the Bahamas, millions to be made in 'email advertising' etc. Because it is crooked it can take advantage of people who are naieve and vulnerable, IE. , the old, the sick, the poor etc.
Thirdly, alot of it is pornographic. Once I had my neighbor's 10-year daughter with me and we were on the computer. All the sudden I get a porno spam. I don't want to repeat what it said in the title line, and the moderator of this forum would probably edit it if I did, but it was pretty bad. I don't think kids should be exposed to that kind of thing.
Well, that's my rant about spam!! I just hate it and I think spammers should be shot along with all telephone solicitors.
:D
PS. Nice Cat, how'd you get it to take a shower?
i just think that more fuss is made about it than is neccessary.
oh no, i got another mail about penis enlargement what should i do?
delete it.
so what?
ps why do yo need to change your screen name when you get spam?
I have seven screen names. Over the years each screen name has been recorded by spammers. Therefore, each screen name gets spam.Quote:
Originally posted by Chëëzmønkëy
ps why do yo need to change your screen name when you get spam?
Right now I use AOL(something that will soon be rectified thanks to Trueswitch). In order to answer the mail for that screen name I have to switch screen names. Its a real pain to do sometimes because if AOL is busy, which is frequently, it can take several minutes and even loose a connection in the process.
It really is a royal pain:sad:
really, you are emphasizing my point...Quote:
Originally posted by Orangeman
I have seven screen names. Over the years each screen name has been recorded by spammers. Therefore, each screen name gets spam.
It really is a royal pain:sad:
if its such a pain, dont do it. delete the spam and go about your business...
I'm with you dude, it takes an extra 30 seconds to delte 30-50 spams that I don't want. Less time if they are all in my spam box. They are rather amusing sometimes too!!!
doesnt AOL have a anti spam ? like emails that you can select as spam and AOL will not deliver them to you ? i think spam comes from the websites you visit.. so what sites are you going to, if you dont like spams ?? besides.. cheezmonkey is right.. just delete the spam and go your marry way..
question for CLEETUS.. i've been meaning to ask you.. what the deal with the days you got left ? are you buying or getting something you been wanting ?? :D
cleetus and i are forming our own time wasting, anti spam patrols.... armed with nothing but three keys, ctrl, a, and del....
ctrl+a, del
AOL? ctrl+a, del
compuserve? ctrl+a, del
ad infinitum
I said it once before, now you have to wait until the time is up and the massive celebration begins!!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by PeLiGrOsO
question for CLEETUS.. i've been meaning to ask you.. what the deal with the days you got left ? are you buying or getting something you been wanting ?? :D
Or just get a small hint from my location!!!
dont deny us our spambusting destiny cleetus...Quote:
Originally posted by Cleetus
I said it once before, now you have to wait until the time is up and the massive celebration begins!!!!!
Or just get a small hint from my location!!!
:guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns:
Obviously , you're end users. Admins understand the problem with spam. Say you got a mail server. It's job is to deliver the mail to about 500 employees. well that server would probably be on some sort of broadband all the time which YOUR company pays by the amount of data downloaded. Well if 75% of your server's resources are spent accepting and sorting and sending out spam instead of legit email like it's supposed to do , there's a problem. then your employees are spending time deleting the spam, about 2 seconds for each piece of spam. Well in business, time is money, and when your inbox has over 75 spam emails a day, it adds up. the bandwith costs adds up because most spam contains graphics other things that take time to download. then there's the spam with the illegal kiddie porn or rape porn that can get your company into legal hot water.
As for the analogy that spam is like tv commercials, BS! You pay for your cable contract which stipulates that you will get commercials or programming from the cable company. your ISP contract doesn't say that you will be getting adverts from them. and the spammers don't work for the ISP. Put it this way, would you like a spammer to jam your tv signal in the middle of your show and not leave until you CLICKED HERE!
and those are just the little arguments against it. the final one is it's your computer and you should be able to decide what comes into it. An attitude like " oh just delete it and forget about it" is what allows microsoft to build software so buggy and charge tons of $$ for it or make licenses agreements that are completely immoral and/or illegal and allows the spammers to send out 1000's of email to your account. Cuz they bank on people not caring and not going after them.
Um, I am a Novell admin, my exchange is taken care of else where, and after talking to my exchange admin and others, it is all taken care of relativly easily. If I notice things coming through here, I have a service I notify, and bammo, takin care of at the business level. As far as home/personal email, IT DON'T COST NUTTIN MORE TO PRESS DELETE. So please, get off of your high horse. The problem with spam in the corp environment is that these idiots are to stupid to not open something, nobody truly understands any bit of time management unless it is on their calendar or their secretary pencils it in. The problem is that nobody, anywhere takes any personal responsibility for anything, and nobody is willing to ignore minor nuisencanses any more.
I guess I will make a sweeping generalization about you now, obviously you spend most of your time behind the server in a closed room rather than out there in the office taking care of everyone from the lowly mail room to the entire executive branch of your company.
It ain't fun to bicker like this is it. We are just having fun on a potentially potent topic, while also expressing a need for everyone to relax and take some of that personal responibility once in a while.
i agree with cleetus.. besides.. if you are seating behind an exchange server deleting spam.. you are not managing your exchange too well
Responsibility? Who can ignore an ad for penis enlargements, that has pictures of before and after. On occasion, someone here in the office will get one of these, and forward it to me, asking me to do something about it. Imagine my surprise when Suzie Rotencrotch sends me a picture of a penis at work. It is shocking! Let me tell you. Then, I now have to devise a way to prevent her from being offended by this type of spam, and in the mean time, I am still shivering from the burned in images…I don’t need that Sh!t at work. I have Web Browsing and Windriving to do!Quote:
Originally posted by Cleetus
...The problem is that nobody, anywhere takes any personal responsibility for anything, and nobody is willing to ignore minor nuisencanses any more.
I guess I will make a sweeping generalization about you now, obviously you spend most of your time behind the server in a closed room rather than out there in the office taking care of everyone from the lowly mail room to the entire executive branch of your company.
It ain't fun to bicker like this is it. We are just having fun on a potentially potent topic, while also expressing a need for everyone to relax and take some of that personal responibility once in a while.
surely there arent two things me and ya_know agree on? AND in the same day....
cleetus - I think ya_know should be allowed to join the SpamBusters©, and fight off spam ith us crusaders... what do you think?
and im no end user either for the record, i may not be sysadmin i maintain my own corner of the mail server here at work (we are an isp and we have more mailboxes to look after than you can shake an awful hairy stick at)
Don't worry Ya Know and GTISEB, I don't think this is a serious argument anyway. I just think this is Cleetus' and Cheezemonkey's way of messing with us.
...kind of like arguing for the sake of arguing and seeing how many people they can get riled up.
ain't that right people?
the best way to deal with this argument is to press the delete button on 'email notification.'
eh, eh, eh.....
Tell you what, why don't Cleetus and Cheezemonkey post your email addresses on this forum and all of us can forward our spam to you?
Okay?:D
I hate spam.
Not only do I have to spend the time to delete it, it clogs up the servers because people who delete it just put it in their Deleted folder, which never automatically clears it.. so it just ends up sitting there and noone is going to go through tens of thousands of emails to delete the spam.
Spam is great with eggs! Just put a few slices on the George Foreman grill and then mix it with your eggs add a little tabasco and Woo Hoo! Top it off with sourdough toast and Diet Mountain Dew and your talkin' manna from heaven.
:D
:rolleyes: Blah at Spam. I use Mailwasher and simply click a checkbox, and can even bounce the unwanted stuff :D
Quote:
Originally posted by Orangeman
Don't worry Ya Know and GTISEB, I don't think this is a serious argument anyway. I just think this is Cleetus' and Cheezemonkey's way of messing with us.
...kind of like arguing for the sake of arguing and seeing how many people they can get riled up.
ain't that right people?
the best way to deal with this argument is to press the delete button on 'email notification.'
eh, eh, eh.....
Tell you what, why don't Cleetus and Cheezemonkey post your email addresses on this forum and all of us can forward our spam to you?
Okay?:D
actually no. not qquite.
it started off as a serious question. i think people make too much of spam.
BUT when i realised that people really DID take it so seriously it just started form there. cleetus isnt really in on it, im jst messin.
but really, what is the big deal?
Hey, if I wanted to burn an ame....nope
Hey, if I wanted to ahve an Iraq flag...nope
Hey, I just don't really care and don't see at as that big of a deal!!!!
Dude, AOL is spammer central. One day, several months ago, I said 'hola' to somebody on ICQ, and since them I've been bombed with spam in SPANISH!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by PeLiGrOsO
doesnt AOL have a anti spam ? like emails that you can select as spam and AOL will not deliver them to you ? ...
I DON'T FREAKING SPEAK SPANISH. I have to wonder about something. Are there really enough pepole who bother looking at this crap to make sending it worthwhile? It seems like the only people who make money from spam are rats who get paid to send the junk out.
I have an old address that was being forwarded to a new address when my ISP got bought out by another. Well on day one of the transition I couldn’t attach to the old email server, so I attached to the new one, and it was getting all of the new emails, and the forwarded ones, so I called it a day. This happened in the middle of December just last year, so we are talking about just less than 5 months. Well the old mailbox filled up to the brim this past week, and the emails stopped coming. Yesterday while I was at work I attached to the old server, and guess how many emails came down. Now realize I have been receiving a forwarded copy of all of these emails, these were just being stored on the original server.
670 emails!!! In less than 5 months!!!
Of those, maybe 50 of them weren’t SPAM. We must put a stop to this, it is worse than a plague, it is worse than SARS!!! It will soon kill us all!!!
heh heh heh, i get that in 2 days.Quote:
Originally posted by Ya_know
670 emails!!! In less than 5 months!!!
Of those, maybe 50 of them weren’t SPAM. We must put a stop to this, it is worse than a plague, it is worse than SARS!!! It will soon kill us all!!!
i delete them and go about my business....
You're a bigger monkey than I...:DQuote:
Originally posted by Chëëzmønkëy
heh heh heh, i get that in 2 days.
i delete them and go about my business....
This spam is getting out of CONTROL!!!!
https://forums.windrivers.com/
Yum Yum, Looks Good Cleetus..
Thanks!
:D