anyone else carry one? i do and i feel kinda wierd when i don't have it on me. here's my baby
http://www.smith-and-wesson-knives.c...SW3001_big.jpg
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anyone else carry one? i do and i feel kinda wierd when i don't have it on me. here's my baby
http://www.smith-and-wesson-knives.c...SW3001_big.jpg
I lost mine(Swiss Army type) when I moved a couple of weeks ago. I feel so unbelievably naked without it. Trying to decide if I want a single blade like yours, or another Swiss Army multi tool type as a replacement.
i've had mine going on 5 years now, so i started looking for another one. SOG makes one i want, but i'm not paying $150 for a pocket knife
I am one that always misses my knife when I forget to pick it up. I found the top knife a few months ago.
http://www.dantesknife.com/ridgeknives.JPG
it took a while to get use to the cut but its nice because it fit perfect in that front hand pocket that never get used much Insead of calling it a Watch Pocket its my Knife pocket.
I would be interested in knowing how may techs out there carry a Multytool to onsites? I have thought about wearing one but I am not to sure how good it looks when walking into a Business envoriment.
I gotta get me one of these babies :
Macgyver knife
Leatherman Wave....I frequently don't even need a toolbox when I walk into a site for a quick repair
http://www.leatherman.com/products/t...ve/default.asp
If the knofe in my leatherman multi tool counts then yeah
:D
;)
Testosterone levels on the rise!
Every time I board a flight these days I feel butt nekkid because I have to divest myself of the various knives I'm used to carrying.
I have a small swiss army knife on my keychain, a Leatherman Micra in my left front pocket, even my money clip has a knife blade and nail file in it.
On top of that I usually have one of a various assortment of Benchmade, Buck, and Coleman pocket knives for heavy duty carving tasks.
and at work I have a utility belt pouch with my multiscrewdriver, electricians scissors, multitool, and three more pocket knives.
My favorite knives belonged to granddad or were given to me by my dad but I don't use those often for fear of losing them. Oh and don't let me forget the Pilot's survival knife I keep in my truck. A sturdy beast with leather grip that could easily double as a straight razor or a crowbar.
And I like your choice Buddy. That Smith Wesson you're toting looks like a sturdy useful blade.
Got three swiss army knives. I've got to remember to take out of my purse when we go on vacation in a couple of weeks.
Main ones are:
Leatherman supertool in my pocket.
Lock-knife on right ankle.
Large knife in the car.
If I'm going somewhere I shouldn't carry a knife, I have a nylon blade which is easily concealed.
I know what you mean. I was taking a flight to Boston and saw the sign at the security depot listing 'forbidden items.' I decided I wanted to go to Boston more than I wanted my Swiss Army Knife and I devested it.Quote:
Originally posted by cisco2
Every time I board a flight these days I feel butt nekkid because I have to divest myself of the various knives I'm used to carrying.
About two weeks later I saw a picture of it in the paper in a story about what people will throw in the trash before they enter security!!:confused: :mad: :D
Never go anywhere without my Gerber. Still razor sharp after a year of use.
Leatherman Wave.
Encourage all your friends to carry a good knife to the airport! How else are we going to get good buys on Ebay? Wait, I wasn't supposed to tell, right? Double wait, Ebay, thats another thread, HEY, a "syncronicity thingy"!!!
.... somewhere's you shouldn't carry a knife !?! ... who do you think you are Rambo ? HERE - quite rightly too, in my opinion - you'd be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon !Quote:
Originally posted by Outcoded
Main ones are:
Leatherman supertool in my pocket.
Lock-knife on right ankle.
Large knife in the car.
If I'm going somewhere I shouldn't carry a knife, I have a nylon blade which is easily concealed.
Carrying a pocket knife or multi-purpose knife for 'something useful' is one thing .. but this seems to have a different purpose entirely .... mind you the rest of the world is still puzzled by your 'consitutional' right to bear arms ...
I carry a 4" Tanto by Cold Steel. I love that knife. It's not leagal (barely) but as a friend used to say, "Its better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6." Work however frowned on this knife. So while in the building at work I have a cybertool 27 or something like that. Its by Victronix. It was probably one of the best gifts I ever got. It has all the bits I need to work on pcs and assorted other tools. The only thing this one is missing is pliers.
Actually, Confus-ed, the "constitutional right" you refer to is not a right established by the Constitution, but is a right that precedes the Constitution and recognized as such by the Constitution. In other words, the government is acknowledging that the right existed before them, and they are not trying to change it or inhibit it. Everything after that is just an attempt to subvert the original intent. The "right" is not the right to be an A-hole, but is the right to meet life threatening aggression with deadly response. Some people just don't get it.Quote:
Originally posted by confus-ed
.... somewhere's you shouldn't carry a knife !?! ... who do you think you are Rambo ? HERE - quite rightly too, in my opinion - you'd be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon !
Carrying a pocket knife or multi-purpose knife for 'something useful' is one thing .. but this seems to have a different purpose entirely .... mind you the rest of the world is still puzzled by your 'consitutional' right to bear arms ...
In the Wind, just exactly how far east of Seattle are you?
I am no constitutional law scholar but the right to bear arms IS a part of the Constitution of the Unites States. Its called the second ammendment. "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I am not going to get into the guin control debate here. I am just stating that it is part of the Constitution. As for being allowed before the Constitution, I am not sure about British Law.
Ok then ... so I have a grenade in my pocket ? You still think I should be allowed that for 'protection' ?... a machine gun? maybe some anthrax ? Nerve agent? ... mini A-bomb ? ...
'the right to meet life threatening aggression with deadly response' ... isn't carring a gun in the first place life threatening aggression ??
So whether the consitution confirmed your supposed right or granted it you seem to perpetuating what you want to get rid of ....
P.S. Actually ... starting anything with actually will only actually annoy ! :eek2:
I had a nice little Gerber keychain knife that broke when I was trying to break in to my girlfriend's work (long story). It then functioned as a flathead screwdriver until I got a cheapie replacement for xmas.
I went to a concert last month and the security lady felt it in my pocket and made me show it. She handed it back to me and said, "Don't stab anybody."
I feel naked without mine too.
I live in Tucson, Arizona. Carrying a knife here is actually somewhat mundane. you don't see it often but it is not entirely uncommon to see people walking around with a sidearm holstered at their hip. And concealed carry permits aren't all that difficult to obtain.
The level of personal freedoms we enjoy here sometimes exacts a high price in blood and suffering. Balancing the very understandable desire to reduce the violence our freedoms make possible against the very esoteric value of greater personal freedom is not easy.
I have a small collection of firearms but I almost never carry one unless I'm going out for some recreational shooting. Still its nice to know I could carry one if I wanted to. I'm a firm believer in protecting our constitutional freedoms. Its not easy defending that belief to someone who has lost a loved one to some gun toting nut however.
In British law one is not allowed to carry anything that can be construed as a weapon unless authorised by the relevant Government department.
A member of the public can be arrested,detained and charged for having in their possession [or in their vehicle] anything that an officer of the law considers to be an offencive weapon which may also include an article made of wood i.e. a pool cue.
They may also only use the force necessary to restrain an offender unlike US law they cannot use extreme force unless in a life threatening situation.
Any knife with a blade over 4" is counted as illegal to carry and still may be counted as an offencive weapon in certain circumstances.
The charging and subsequent jailing of a farmer last year for shooting two trespassers shows the level of the UK law in the regard to protecting ones property.
I'm in the UK as well.Quote:
Originally posted by confus-ed
.... somewhere's you shouldn't carry a knife !?! ... who do you think you are Rambo ? HERE - quite rightly too, in my opinion - you'd be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon !
Carrying a pocket knife or multi-purpose knife for 'something useful' is one thing .. but this seems to have a different purpose entirely .... mind you the rest of the world is still puzzled by your 'consitutional' right to bear arms ...
Leatherman and a Ruko folder.
Pretty much all the time.
At the confluence of the eastern Wa rivers and the River of No Return. I know it is called the "Snake", but the Snake is just a dribble till it joins up with the Salmon, a river I really love.Quote:
Originally posted by Buddy Holly
In the Wind, just exactly how far east of Seattle are you?
I believe that the 2nd Amndt states that your right (preexisting) to bear arms shall not be infringed (by the government), it isn't giving you the right, just stating that the right will not be infringed upon.
Differences of opinion are what makes a horse race, eh?
Confus-ed, the right to bear arms does not convey the right to be an idiot with them. I don't like to "lower the bar" to match or accomodate the most ridiculous behaviour possible in a given situation. If one were to carry a weapon and the act of carrying the weapon caused that person to be an idiot with it, they should come to understand that being an idiot is a problem, the problem they must fix. It is called resposibility for your actions, something that seems to be lacking in society today.
Often carry A Sthill Saw in the back of the car.
Excellent for removing wheel clamps.:)
I wonder if that would be considered an offensive weapon.
If used "properly"... :eek2:Quote:
Originally posted by constructor
Often carry A Sthill Saw in the back of the car.
Excellent for removing wheel clamps.:)
I wonder if that would be considered an offensive weapon.
GerberUSA BABY!!!
450 surgical stainless EZout.
I carry one of these:
http://www.leatherman.com/products/t...ii/default.asp
In one of these:
http://www.swissarmy.com/webstore/mo...7&category=130
And wear these:
http://www.swissarmy.com/webstore/mo...26&category=29
(Can't find the sunglasses on their site anymore but I do have a a pair of Swiss Army glasses as well.) :cool:
This is an interesting concept. By merely possessing the knife, he is now an aggressive ‘Rambo’ that poses a direct threat to those around him. Never mind the fact that obviously no one will know about this knife (due to those intelligent laws of yours that make sure the victim is always poorly armed, if armed at all) except in the most dire of consequences and how its presence is of a defensive nature. How can he be acting aggressively if no one knows?Quote:
somewhere's you shouldn't carry a knife !?! ... who do you think you are Rambo ? HERE - quite rightly too, in my opinion - you'd be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon !
Yawn. I must have missed that bit where every other government on the planet has disarmed its citizens. Do you mind supplying me with a date or collection of such of the implementation of such laws? That truly was massive event that I completely missed while striving towards my ultimate goal of being the perfect knuckle-dragging Yank.Quote:
Carrying a pocket knife or multi-purpose knife for 'something useful' is one thing .. but this seems to have a different purpose entirely .... mind you the rest of the world is still puzzled by your 'consitutional' right to bear arms ...
I have no concept of a god in my desire to carry reasonable defense. It is pure instinct. Self-defense is a fact of nature. I am small enough to more than likely be completely outclassed physically by anyone that decides I have something they want, be it my property, my life, or the lives of those around me. A concealed, and especially an openly carried, weapon can potentially prevent me from being a victim of a crime.Quote:
Nope ... yanks who think its some God given right don't get it ...
I won’t even bother myself. You know this line of reasoning is a logical fallacy and nothing I can say or do will make you admit it.Quote:
Ok then ... so I have a grenade in my pocket? You still think I should be allowed that for 'protection' ?... a machine gun? maybe some anthrax ? Nerve agent? ... mini A-bomb ? ...
So you are saying the mere possession of a firearm is aggression. Nifty concept. My neighbor has taken up bodybuilding and martial arts so he is obviously planning on raiding my home and killing me. Or not. Owning a firearm doesn’t automatically make you an aggressive Neanderthal anymore than not owning one makes you an enlightened peacemaker. You seem to have serious issues differentiating cause and effect.Quote:
'the right to meet life threatening aggression with deadly response' ... isn't carring a gun in the first place life threatening aggression ??
You equate banning firearm ownership with an end to aggression. Once again, research cause and effect. Aggressive people will be aggressive whether they have to use a gun or a brick. Further, the people that you should actually worry about having weapons are criminals anyways. Will they magically begin respecting society’s laws when all weapons are banned or did you just assure that they have one less problem to worry about, namely victims engaging in self defense?Quote:
So whether the consitution confirmed your supposed right or granted it you seem to perpetuating what you want to get rid of ....
You also should look up irony. Berating the grammar of another when your typing is nothing short of atrocious is very nearly comedy.Quote:
P.S. Actually ... starting anything with actually will only actually annoy!
Hehe - have we met?Quote:
Originally posted by jaeger
This is an interesting concept. By merely possessing the knife, he is now an aggressive ‘Rambo’ that poses a direct threat to those around him.
Actually, I've been attacked on several occassions on a one-one or two-on-one basis and effectivly beaten the piss out of however started it without a knife. The reason I carry something now is around two years ago, a robber came into the shop where I was working and put a knife in the face of the old lass on the till. I was standing behind her and pulled her back, taking a deep cut to the arm in the process, I then removed the knife from his possession, taking a cut to my hand in the process, and breaking his wrist. Had I had a knife to hand, I have the relevant skill to have disarmed him in under a second without posing a risk to me, or the people around us.
Incidently, interesting you mention size Jaeger - a friend of mine if five foot nothing and female, she put a rather large mugger in hospital for two days.
Openly carried weapons are very easy to take off people. It is also worth bearing in mind that any weapon you pull can be used against you. Case study, a guy in a club near here pulled an asp (extending baton) on a bouncer not long ago, and ended up with a broken hand inflicted by the weapon, and very nearly got it shoved up his arse.
Ye Gods .... while I was busy working you have been ripping my replies to bits ... :eek2:
Without going into too much detail ( I really feel it'll be fruitless !) ... I just think its a sad reflection on 'society' that you feel the need to protect yourself in this way ...
We have law (and its upholders ... courts, police & I suppose armed forces) to protect everyone from aggressors ... Isn't that the point of civilisation ???
I don't need a knife to beat the crap out of anyone or a gun or any other kind of weapon , but then again I accept the fact that its wrong in the first place !!!
Just to reply to one direct bit (because you are American ... sorry outcoded - get a flag !)
Yawn. I must have missed that bit where every other government on the planet has disarmed its citizens. Do you mind supplying me with a date or collection of such of the implementation of such laws? " Originally posted by jaeger
Hmmm just what are you (we) up to in Iraq right now ... removing weapons from citizens who use the exact same arguements as you ... to restore order !
Agreed.
Well, it is interesting that I find myself in agreement with Confus-ed on the reason I carry a knife. I use it as a tool throughout the day, many times. It is not on my person for the purpose of defending myself from attackers. For that matter, if just for defense, a T-ball bat would be a better choice. I don't carry one of those either. I have advised people in the past to not carry a defense weapon, on the basis that it will give you a false sense of security, in reality if you are not expert in it's use, it will most likley be removed from you and used against you, in the event of an attack. The best defensive weapon you possess is your brain, both from a proactive and reactive stance.
Confus-ed, you have an interesting knack for picking a particular "color" and painting the entire world in it. Life is more dynamic than that.
Regarding the comment on the legal system being our protector, the USA Supreme Court has stated that the police have no duty or responsibility to "protect" us from the commission of a crime. They are there to deal with the effects of crime, after it has been committed. For a proactive defensable position, we are on our own. See comment above regarding brain.
I of course couldn't paint the whole world in any particular 'color' ... here it would be colour ... but what should I expect ? .... Americans to be able to spell ? :D ... You may care to note 'Devil's advocate' is my particular speciality ;)
Joking aside ... this bit "the USA Supreme Court has stated that the police have no duty or responsibility to "protect" us from the commission of a crime. They are there to deal with the effects of crime, after it has been committed. For a proactive defensable position, we are on our own."
That is seriously disturbing & if true explains a great deal of the difference between what I perceive is the rest of the World's view & that of America's ....
This of course takes on even more significance when you remember that a certain George Jnr's entire line on Iraq was to protect his citizenship from 'immediate & present danger' ...
But hey, this is a discussion on do you own a pocket knife ? :D ... not world politics !
As for the female friend, being able to defend yourself unarmed is nice but I prefer stacking the deck in my favor whenever possible.Quote:
Originally posted by Outcoded
Incidently, interesting you mention size Jaeger - a friend of mine if five foot nothing and female, she put a rather large mugger in hospital for two days.
Openly carried weapons are very easy to take off people. It is also worth bearing in mind that any weapon you pull can be used against you. Case study, a guy in a club near here pulled an asp (extending baton) on a bouncer not long ago, and ended up with a broken hand inflicted by the weapon, and very nearly got it shoved up his arse.
That openly carried weapons bit was meant in terms of everyone capable of handling a weapon carrying one and being intelligent enough not to get into a situation where they can't defend themself. I personally believe a well-armed and capable citizenship is the best way to cut back on crime. I agree that a knife is a poor weapon to carry if you want to defend yourself. The guy who took on the bouncer is kind of stacking the deck for the concept of any self defense weapon being as dangerous to its owner as anyone else. Bouncers tend to be bigger than hell, know how to fight effectively unarmed, and are paid to be on the lookout for nutters.
Bah. Quoting line for line is aggravating.
Confused, our thoughts on this are different on a fundamental level. You hold the weapon as being immoral/evil. I hold the weapon as inanimate and the aggression as being immoral, my basic reasoning being that a weapon by itself will do nothing while an aggressive person without a weapon will still cause problems.
Civilization hasn't figured out completely protecting its law abiding citizens from the criminals in a few thousand years. I have no delusion it will be figured out in my lifetime.
Double check your facts on Iraq. What I've read and heard is that Allied forces are confiscating heavy and assault weapons while allowing Iraqi's to keep small arms in their homes.
The clarification of the role police have is more of a CYA tactic than anything else. With this as their responsibility, they can go on protecting citizens without having to worry about a lawsuit if they can't show up at a crime for some reason.
And quit throwing out your opinion of the view of the rest of the world. You should have figured out by now that you aren't even sure of the views of your fellow Brit.
Confus-ed, in a discussion of a person and thier rights and responsibilities, you extend the thought to international relationships. Hence the thought of picking a color and painting the world with it. As if my decision to carry a blade has anything to do with GWB going to war with SH? To broad a brushstroke for my likeing. BTW, I had very big doubts about that issue myself, but that would be another thread, not to be painted with this same brush, eh?
Don't worry, the USA is fast catching up with the rest of the world. I used to take my rifle to school on the school bus, so that I could go hunting on the way home after school. Today I would be arrested for that. See how much better we are today?!?
after reading this thread, i can honestly say that i have never been happier that i am living in the uk NOT america!
a swiss army/ leatherman kinda thing is fine by me, i have one myself, although i dont take it around with me, but soem of the knives shown have no, and i do repeat NO innocent useage.
however short of funds i may be, i would consider it beneath me to mug an old granny at swordpoint :D