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Hello, for the past week, i have been getting the blue screen
with the messsage "system is busy waiting for the close
program dialog box to be displayed" after that my computer
just freezes up and i have to do a re-start.I would hate to
pull out my re-stall disk.
Can you get to your desktop at all?
Can you restart in Safe Mode?
What were you doing before this happened?
Just crusing the net,after i re-start i can get into safe mode,then the same problems start up again.
Try starting from Safe Mode again. Then go Start> Run and type MSCONFIG
When you've done that click OK, Under GENERAL, make sure SELECTIVE STARTUP is checked. Then click the Startup tab. Then uncheck everything except your antivirus application.
Click OK and restart your computer. Tell us what happens.
If this doesn't work, have you updated your antivirus software?
I hear tell that ms blaster can effect a windows 98 system - this would be a symptom of this.
Can you get to say panda online and try a virus scan?
uh, the blaster worm does NOT effect Windows 95,98 or ME. There is no indication from Symantec or Microsoft about Blaster effecting these operating systems.
That's what I thought...Noo, don’t let us down...I know you have an explanation...:(Quote:
Originally posted by hopr
uh, the blaster worm does NOT effect Windows 95,98 or ME. There is no indication from Symantec or Microsoft about Blaster effecting these operating systems.
I just "heard" it, pure hearsay.... I have nothing to back it up. The likelihood of it being an msblast variant is very low, the likelihood of it being a worm that creates that bsod is pretty high though.Quote:
Originally posted by Ya_know
That's what I thought...Noo, don’t let us down...I know you have an explanation...:(
Blaster takes advantage of a known vulnerability in a Winblows component called the DCOM (Distributed Component Object Model) interface, which handles messages sent using the RPC (Remote Procedure Call) protocol. It affects computers running M$ Winblows XP and Winblows 2000 O/S’s not Winblows 98 or 95 why because these O/S’s (if you want to call them that) do not run these services. Both Winblows XP and Winblows 2000 users may experience significant system slow downs when using Winblows or surfing the Internet if their machine is infected. This is why Linux/UNIX and or FreeBSB (real O/S’s) are better. Try the switch to free your mind and I will show you just how deep the rabbit hole goes or you can take the red pill and go back to sleep :devil:
:flame:
Every time I start to think that open source has some actual potential, some over-zealous dolt has to spout off with unsubstantiated rhetoric about the alleged 'superiority' of linux over Windows.
Hey mongo . . . it is readily apparent that you have very little experience in the real world. Our company, a Fortune 100 firm, recently made the transition from Exchange to Horde, using custom modules and a MySQL back end. Guess what? A few months into the project, we nearly lost everything after we discovered a buffer overflow in Horde that allowed our entire messaging system (email, calendaring, etc) to be compromised. The lesson here is that EVERY operating system can be compromised. Maybe when you move out of Mom & Dad's house and spend a few years in the field, you'll gain a more realistic perspective on things. Microsoft has its share of flaws, but I defy you to show me one example of any complex system (open source or proprietary) that cannot be exploited. Let me save you some time and embarrassment here . . . THERE ARE NONE.
Open source has its merits, but MS didn't get to be as profitable and responsive (for a huge multinational) by being stupid. If you believe otherwise, you are as guilty of being a shill as any of your MS counterparts. So yank your head out of the rabbit hole, or your ***, or wherever you currently have it stuck and read a few books on complex systems, statistical analysis, and perhaps even a few psychology papers . . . you’ll eventually draw the conclusion that there is a pervasive element in human nature to exploit things. A very valid point to ponder is that this is EASIER to do when you have the blueprints (source code). The only reason that linux has yet to be targeted is that it has such a pitifully small market share, especially considering that it is actually a rather mature operating system. Wait a few years, as linux gains ground, and you will see a much bigger threat to security than in any ‘closed’ system (i.e. Solaris, MS, etc).
Hope that you don’t take this too personally, but you needed a reality check.
-mike
Damn, that was harsh even by my standards...but I loved it!!! :thumbs:Quote:
Originally posted by NEPATEC
:flame:
Hope that you don’t take this too personally, but you needed a reality check.
-mike
Yeah man, what Nepatec said!
I just call 'em as I see 'em.
You want a 100% secure, bullet-proof, nuclear-hardened operating environment?
Yank the NIC out of your server, then the modem, then lock the machine in your basement with a large ill-tempered canine & run DOS 5.0 ;)
-mike
i hate to post a reply about linux fans but i feel the need to.....I feel that if these linux fans believe that "winblows" is not a real OS or that it sucks, i challenge you to write a better OS. get all your linux friends around and come up with a better OS and better marketing and make it 100% secure so NO virus can infect the system. Then come here and tell everyone how windows sucks. I admit that windows has its problems but when you realize the amount of code that is written, there are bound to be mistakes. also as a last note.....the reason linux is not a virus target is not because its dismal market share....its because the virus writers are using their beloved linux and worship the OS and would rather die than expose the exploits it contains. I wish i had the link but there is a site that contains MANY linux vulnerabilities but they are not talked about much because linux is not as popular as "winblows". nothing is safe when someone wants to get in. linux, FreeBSD, Unix, windows, OSx, etc all have vulnerabilities, it just so happens that the bash-microsoft-linux-rules population seem to only point out MS problems. Sorry for the rant but I am very tired of still-livin-in-moms-basement-linux-drones complaining about windows not knowing that their Holy Grail OS has the same problems but they are to ignorant to realize it. WHEW!!
All valid points, spdycml
ALL operating systems have their merits; all have their disadvantages. As for the fanatics on both sides of this argument, it pays to remember that all the time we spend bickering over which is better . . . Windows or Linux (or MAC, or FreeBSD) could be spent MUCH more productively if we directed our efforts in the pursuit of making ALL of them better :)
Let's face it: No matter what your preference in operating systems, and despite all the philosophical tenets, we are ALL hard-core, socially expunged miscreants whose passions for all-things-technical set us apart from the people who can't set the clock on their VCR. I motion that we cease all hostilities concerning the debate over MS-vs-Linux, join forces to merge our collective intellects, and collaborate our efforts on designing genetically-engineered hotties that crave sex 24x7 and possess an instinctive behavior to clean up around the house in-between!
-mike
I entered your error message as search words on the Internet and was directed to this page:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winme/r1056320326
The answer to this persons problems (which may or may not be similiar to yours) was found here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;145799
Hope it helps,
Orangeman
;)
thanks for all the good advice,but lately i have been getting the blue screen saying the system is busy or has become unstable.When i use alt+ctrl+del keys, the box that shows all
the programs running.Says" explorer not responding" highlighted.What does this mean?
My all that windows vs linux stuff was oh so relevant - NOT !.... guys if you want to argue about the merits of one o/s vs another, start your own thread please ! .. this ones about windows 98 ... :p
Now I've insulted everyone, lets see if we can actually help ;)
So we have up to date anti-vrus ? We have all the ms patches ? & we have tried some anti -trojan s/w ? & you tried orangeman's 'trick' about unchecking startup items ?
If all that checks out, perhaps try an in-place re-install ? You simply re-install windows over itself ... this should leave all your installed proggies intact & unaffected, but 'badly behaved' apps might need re-installing, as will any windows updates (they ought to be stored on your machine so that's just a re-tard when you press the visit windows update site)
Explorer, as opposed to Internet explorer, failing to start is indicative of some hardware or driver problem rather than anything more malevolent but its worth checking for any 'net nasties' you might have caught ....
Can we have the full BSOD's (blue screen of death :D ) message, please, there ought to be more than you identified in the opening post, this'll give us more info, saying explorer won't start is like saying my car won't start - obviously there can be a fair few causes ....
WOW WOW WOW!!! Your out of control. :)
Thanks for the flame I guess that I could have used that NEP. I had totally forgot about this post and I just checked it today. It is nice to see that some ¡§live in moms basement Linux loser¡¨ (notice I did not say Linux fanatic. I am not fanatical about anything I am only fanatical about Genetically-engineered hotties that crave sex 24x7, fast Cars, Booze and Computers) can cause such controversy amongst such distinguished minds of might. With that said I must apologize to rtrottie, Orangeman, NooNoo, hopr and confus-ed. The first half of my post was to clear up an earlier post from NooNoo this way rtrottie would not try to fix something that could not possibly affect his/her system. The rest of my post was just for fun that added nothing to the subject at hand. Its sad to see that someone can not add a little rivalry to this forum. Just a little history on me I do work in the IT field and I don't mean CompUsa, frys or something like that.. I am an admin for a fairly large company I have been doing it for quite some time now. Here we have a very mixed environment that includes Novell, GroupWise, Cirix and MS products. Note no Linux. Nepatec I am sorry that a few months into your project you nearly lost everything after you discovered a buffer overflow that allowed your entire messaging system to be compromised.¨ No operating system is perfect, your right on that. But horde is not part of Linux, it's a third party open source software. someone added on and took time to configure most likely with another add on program called imp, which is a web-based email program. Your issue with horde has more to do with substandard security policies rather than any deficiency in open source software. Open and closed source software will have bugs. Since horde is email software, you must have set it up to be accessed by the world-wide-internet and then failed to keep it patched, just like all the windows users who failed to patch their computers which would have prevented the Blaster problem. In your case with horde, failure on your part to patch horde, led to the email server being compromised (I have never had that problem here at work on my network) Not only was the lesson learned that EVERY O/S can be compromised but that you need to do your homework and find things like that out before hand and patch them in your roll out. Maybe WHEN YOU get a little experience under your belt in the real world and move out of Moms and Dads mobile home you will figure that out, but in the mean time you can always get help in these forums from loser nobodies like YOU, ME and Spdycml . I will be the first one to admit that Linux is not quite there just yet but that is what is so great about being someone like me a FREE THINKER a person unlike your self and Spdycml. A person that has not been beaten into submission by companies like Microsoft, Novell or Citrix. A person that likes to tinker around with OTHER O/S's and be part of a community that is bigger than himself, that wants nothing more than the furtherance of its O/S and Technology as a whole. No Spdycml I can not get my Linux friends together and make a better OS that is not my intent I just want to enrich the prosperity of the community.
I do agree with you in one thing you said "Let's face it No matter what your preference in operating systems, and despite all the philosophical tenets, we are ALL hard-core, socially expunged miscreants whose passions for all-things-technical set us apart from the people who can't set the clock on their VCR. I motion that we cease all hostilities concerning the debate over MS-vs-Linux, join forces to merge our collective intellects, and collaborate our efforts on designing genetically-engineered hotties that crave sex 24x7 and possess an instinctive behavior to clean up around the house in-between!¨
I applaud all of you that have not gotten into this SILLY pissing match and I am sorry that I even started it by expressing my opinion I agree with you confused.
There are a few viruses out there that can cause a corrupt explorer.exe file, or install two different versions of explorer.exe. I remember one that was a variant of a worm and a macro file that was especially nasty for a while. So..to reiterate the suggestions of Confus-ed, Orangeman, NooNoo et al:
run an online virus scan if you can keep it running long enough
run a spyware check..I use both ad-aware and spybot
uncheck all the things from start-up and reboot
run system file check and replace anything it finds as corrupt
do an overlay install of windows.
run a memory check and a hard drive check (from dos)
Mongo69 Have you attempted any of Geoscomp's suggestions?