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yikes.....
So, real or not, what do you think?
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yikes.....
So, real or not, what do you think?
real...open cut mine ..steep grades..those could flip easy if unbalanced or driven too fast
I vote real.
I think it's real, but there ARE a couple suspicious parts to it.
1. Guy in white hat has a strange dent in his left leg by his knee.
2. A couple of those guys have some strange white lines by their knees. Seems like an after effect of rubber stamping. But my only question would be why?
3. Large tire closest to left side of image has some mightly clean white ghosting along the tire. At first I thought it was just a clean edge caused by dirt on the tire, but I compared some other edges of the truck and they don't seem to have such a clean contrast to the rest of the image.
4. If you zoom in on different parts of the image, you will notice different image qualities. For example, zoom in on one of the workers. They are heavily bitmapped. The truck is not as badly bitmapped if you zoom in on parts of it. Also there is some bitmapped ghosting around the edges of the workers.
Now that I think about it,.. I am pretty sure it's a fake.
I see what you see about the knees webby...
but the shadows are well done if its a fake...theres no skid marks either or roll marks
the jury is still out here....
heres one the right way up I am looking for a forward view
http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa1/k...mp%20truck.jpg
zoom in close on the cab , and you can see a spilled coffee cup
it,s real
Go on then ...Find me a picture of the flipping crane they get to turn the damn thing back the right way up !
I'm of course completely confus-ed on the fake/real issue. :D
You need a new option of half real/half fake. I'd say the truck really is overturned, but the workers have been pasted in front of it.
It looks to me that the truck really flipped. Look at the guy with the rag behind the railing, that looks clean. But it seems the guys standing in front were shopped in.
Look at the shadows, it's obviously a fake.
http://www.msha.gov/Accident_Prevent...dumpshort1.jpg
http://www.msha.gov/Accident_Prevent...dumpshort2.jpg
well...I can't find anything on google about it yet and I have tried every search term familiar with it...I did however find these...
I know it does happen, but I am still...undecided
Since imaging is what I do for a living, I thought I'd weigh in on the issue...
This looks real to me. We have ways of determining if pixellation/resolution differences can be found within a single photo, and I couldn't find any. Zooming in on it, the things that look iffy on the guys legs and such, look acceptable when viewed close up. A big issue that usually gives "shopped" images away is shadowing. The shadows under each guy, although small, are similar in angulation, size and brightness, and match the minimal shadowing of the bottom [leading edge] of the truck resting on the dirt. That'd be very difficult to get right. The bent stepup ladder [top right] supports a vehicle rollover idea. [Though, that could've happened any time.]
What doesn't look right? I'm always suspicious of washed out areas...too bright, too white and stuff like that. It's easy to hide shopping in those areas. To me, the tires look flat on top, as if, flipped over, they're still resting on the earth, but 1] who knows what the tires look like on something like this when they're "downside up?", and 2] It's impossible to detect any pixellation difference with all the white surrounding them, especially in a .jpg image.
I say its real. But what the hell do I know.. :p
What shadows, it looks to be noon, as small as the shadows are...Quote:
Originally Posted by edball
There may have been roll marks, but not visible in such a small view of the camera, also, there may have been dirt movers along side filling in a pile or something, we can't really draw any conclusion there without knowing that the accident scene was left untouched before this picture was even taken...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayet
I'm no expert, but I have had extensive training in graphic design and use Photoshop at least weekly.
Real, I say.
IT Len summed it up pretty good.
I've looked it over and i think it's real. No specific reason, but the details in the picture seem to match what happened.
Then how does the guy with half a knee stand up without support?
That's just it. If it was photoshoped, there would not be such a huge mistake. I feel that what your seing there just happens to be the way the jeans fold.Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzak
http://daemonprojects.com/Flipped_Truck.jpg
looks fishy to me
Looks real to me but what do I know.
As to the stripes on the knees are those not reflective stripes attached to the overalls?
There are several accident reports posted by the US Dpartment of Labour if you feel like looking through them:
http://www.msha.gov/INDEXES/ALLDOC.i...on=caterpillar
http://www.msha.gov/Accident_Prevent...ras/photo7.jpg
caterpillar 789B
http://www.msha.gov/Accident_Prevent...as/photo10.jpg
Caterpiller 793B
It's real, I was the one driving it.
And I was giving him his Rum
You were also on the Valdez...? :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra X
Though given some of the other images from the website I wouldnt be suprised if it were real :D
http://www.truckweb.ca/images/Visite...ock4_small.jpghttp://www.truckweb.ca/images/Visite...ock2_small.jpghttp://www.truckweb.ca/images/Visite...ock1_small.jpg
http://www.truckweb.ca/Fto_Autres.htm
http://www.truckweb.ca/#
It's real folks. I work at one of the largest mines in the world and we got a Safety Bulletin Alert from Factory Mutual Insurance last year about the incident. It happened late in 2001. I actually have another picture of the accident, but unfortunately I'm at work and can't host it. If anyone is interested though I can email it to ya and let ya oogle at it. :D
Hope they managed to get away without too much injury Major Kong.
Hey Major, how much does one of those things weigh? And is there water in the tires/if so how many gallons per tire (if that's common knowlege).
I am guesing around 140000 lbs gross, give or take a few thousand. Am I close
I say it's a fake. Why'd they bring the barrel out for the picture? (behind the third guy from the left). Also how did it end up in this position (flat on it's back). I would under stand falling over on it's side because of a load but the only way I see it ending up in that positing is if it drove up a very steep incline with a load and flipped straight up and then over but if that would have happend I don't think that a vehicle of that size and weight would not show any signs of stress or bent metal (shoot even if it were placed like that I think the weight would show something). All in all it's a very good fake though.Quote:
Originally Posted by FatalException0E
I'm game. millerg2 at gvsu dot eduQuote:
Originally Posted by Major Kong
On it's way Gollo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gollo
I never did hear whether it was a fatality or not.
Ya_know:
Here where I work now we use the smaller CAT 777 (easier to maintain in the Arctic). They run ~140 tons. Where I used to work in Arizona we were using the Komatsu 300 and 320 ton trucks. They be huge monsters. We do not use water in the tires due to the much additional weight (8.34 pounds per gallon), so they are your basic BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG Stoopid Truck Tires ;) . Plus up here the tires would probably be a freezin' all the time. It bein' a nice balmy -27°F today here in the Northwest Arctic. :D
Ok. It's real. Barrel and all :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Major Kong
Link
Thats pretty cool. So how do we explain the guy with the half-knee? :p
Somebody mentioned reflective tape. I would agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by WebHead
As someone else mentioned, the truck could be real with the people placed in front of the truck. This would be like the picture with the shark jumping out of the water about to eat the military person climbing a rope ladder onto a helicopter in the San Fransisco Bay. Both real pictures, just not real together...Quote:
Originally Posted by WebHead
Plus, I don't think reflective tape could cause an illusion like that.
Have you ever taken a picture of reflective tape? Even better with a flash? I once had some reflective tape spun around some drum sticks cause it looked cool under the lights, one day I was spinning them between my fingers, and someone took my picture using the flash. The visual was, awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by CW_WD_RIOT
That said, it is completely plausible…
The zoom of that half-knee does look pretty bad. But why the heck would someone bother chopping in the people on a pic like that? Was it a rival contruction firm who wanted to make these people look bad? BTW, Maj Kong, I'd like that image.
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I have the pic linked in one of my previous posts. Cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by FatalException0E