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I wonder what reason he will use to sue the school?
Peer pressure? https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
In junuior high I once saw a kid snort chalk.
Same kid, pierced his ear with a cheap circle drawing compass (that was a big a$$ hole!)
In high school, seen one kid eat a baby turtles head off for a buck. That poor little turtle... :eek2:
Lack of supervision by the staff. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by techs
Sounds air tight to me!!! When do we go to court?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deity
yup always hated school... maybe thats why I was never there much
If he's that stupid...he deserves it.....
But from a parents point of view...it wouldn't be that cut and dried... but still, wouldn't sue the school for the kids own stupidity!
well, maybe the schools shouldnt have these chemicals? or umm maybe they should have mroe help in this type of class, dunno, there could be things to avoid this.. but yes kid was stupid..
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Originally Posted by +Daemon+
Or perhaps having the kids take a lab safety course first, then be required to sign a document, along with the parents signature asserting adherence to lab rules...one of those rules being: "Don't drink the sulfuric acid!"...Quote:
Originally Posted by +Daemon+
That would help take away some of the schools liability at least.
That's friggin' hilarious. What a dumb a$$!
It was probably Lone Star Light! That stuff is nasty!!! https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif
Why do we keep fighting natural selection? This 'tard just removed himself from the gene pool in a relatively clean way. No extra damage to society. How much do you want to bet that this intellectual giant will get amazingly blitzed sometime in the next few years and become one of those drunk driving asshats? I'm not saying kill stupid people, but dammit, when they are polite enough to do themselves, don't get in the way.
You guys are all just prejudiced against dumb people!!!
That''s wrong. Stupid people have the right to be stupid!!! They have the right to screw things up for themselves and all around them and to drag our society down at every single turn!!!!!! I'm sure lots of lawyers would agree. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by jaeger
I am sure if this was your son that was the stupid tard, you'd feel a world different...I am not impressed, even if you were joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
Question, why was the chemical store left unsupervised and unlocked?
You wouldn't find a commercial lab in the UK left like that, let alone in a school!
Well, during the lab I am sure they had some chemicals at their stations...you would think...?Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
We don't know yet what it was that he drank. That is the part I am waiting for...!
If that was my kid, I would smack the $hit outta him for being so stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
But you would not want him naturally selected out of existence...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spork
I'd either raise my child to realize, "Hey guzzling some random chemical may not be such a hot idea," or I'd be a miserable failure as a parent. Hell, now that you bring it up, the parents should be at least partially responsible for this numbnuts hospital bills. We aren't talking about a third or fourth grader who makes an ignorant mistake here. We are talking about some wanna-be vegetable that decided to chug something that was sitting in a chem lab. At bare minimum this kid was fourteen and should have known better. Of course, we now have a sample of his astounding judgement. I only hopes that when he does manage to kill himself doing something stupid, he doesn't take other people with him. I don't expect a highschool freshman (taking the youngest possibility, he may be older) to be ready to make good decisions when faced life's deepest problems, but he should have figured out DRINKING STRANGE CHEMICALS IS BAD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
jaeger, have you got any kids now?
Its a shame El Estupido was asked to do something this distructive. Think about what would have happened if he'd been dared to do something funny, like poor slow-acting acid on a nice girl's shirt.....:D
Or go to study-hall with his pants pulled down...:D
or ask the question "Do you know any handicapped or special people?" to any one he met....:grin;
No. Why the insistence on the "If it was your kid, you'd feel differently." line? I know that. You are saying if I was directly involved, I'd lack objectivity. This teenager is old enough to make choices, and he has demonstrated that he is remarkably bad at making them. What scares me, and try concentrating on this, is one of his future bad choices, now that he has been spared from death, might result in the deaths of people whose only mistake was to be far too close to this bonehead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
You keep dancing around the point you made earlier, and come close to repeating it every time. So you think that a kid this stupid is a direct fault of the parents, and that stupid kids don't need to go on breathing, especially if the event that kills them doesn't harm anyone else...am I right in that paraphrase?Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
My boy is 2 years old, and doesn’t listen to me, even thought I am on his a$$ the minute he wakes up, until he goes to bed. I am relentless, but he wants to be more independent than any little 2 year old I have ever seen, but then I really didn’t pay any attention to those things before my kids. I give him his latitude, and let him hang himself, but I am always there to be sure things don’t go wrong…hoping that these events are helpful in his development, and that he learns from experience, along with listening to me telling him right from wrong. I hope and pray that as he gets older he learns to trust my instinct about things, and not wish to explore his own instinct. But fact is at some point he will be on his own…at 8, at 10, at 14 in high school he will be faced with decisions that matter more then he will ever truly realize or understand…I remember the decisions I made, and many I regret. But to become a man you have to try and learn, hopefully things don’t go wrong…
What I am getting at, you’re not seeing the whole picture. This kid made a mistake, and I am sure he is paying for it. I am also sure that someone out there loves this kid, and was in great pain to hear of the news of his injury, the same as your own mother was when you had events in your life…think back.
Be fair, he did something stupid, yes, that doesn’t mean that he is stupid, or that his parents failed him at some point. There is such a thing as karma…things are always going to just happen.
The parents played a role in raising the kid. They aren't fully responsible, they are partly responsible as they raised a child with extraordinarily poor judgement. In the early context of this thread, where it was suggested that there would be a lawsuit that the family would win, and I made my comments with that in mind. Between having this kid win a fat lawsuit ascribing responsibility to the school and having him die on his own, I think the ending is his death. Why would I say such a cold-hearted thing? Because without a serious acceptance of responsibility, this kid WILL do something similar in the future. I can't know whether his encore will kill himself or other innocent people, maybe both. Now provided this kid learns from his mistake (that would be evidenced by no lawsuit), medical care was the right choice as this may be the event that matures him, makes him a man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
The primary difference here seems to be one of age perspective. I'm 20, and I imagine your are late 20s to early 30s. To you he is a poor young kid, to me he should know better. Six years ago I was either his age or younger and even then I had enough judgement not to drink strange chemicals, peer pressure or no.
Karma is an odd choice of word. Karma implies fate. Fate is what happens to you, not what you do to yourself. This wasn't some unlucky turn of events, this was stupidity in motion.
Yeah, but he drank chemicals!!! How much dumber can you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
I think that what Jaegers upset about is what upsets most of us. This dink is going to sue now, you know he will. It's not in the article but it's bound to happen and we blame the school or the teacher and in this case anyone with a damn brain should know better than to drink freakin' chemical in a chem lab for crap sake! It's people like this that ruin everything for everyone. They are the reason we have "Caution - Hot" on coffee and "Do not eat" on palastic wrap. People like this do not deserve attention or reward but they continue to get it. We reward stupidity constantly and it's got to stop.
Now, there may be more to this than there seems to be. Maybe the chemicals were not locked up and should have been. Maybe the teacher left the room during this dangerous time. Maybe, maybe, maybe. The fact remains that this idiot drank RAW FREAKIN CHEMICALS ON A DARE! He didn't spill them accidentaly due to neglagence, he drank them. This kid is a bonafide damned idiot.
Well, no, there isn't, but I agree with the essence of your post wholeheartedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
If anyone has read my DorT post about my teenage years they will see quite clearly that I voluntarily defied the structure they wished to instill in my life.
That young man made a decision based on ego, on bravado, on peer pressure and paid the price for it.
His parents can't be held responsible for this at all.
I'm betting Dihydrogen Monoxide. It's out there, and it's dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
Yeah I agree it's real bad stuff! Fish make love and go to the bathroom in it...I mean how good can it be for ya???!!! https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by meatwad
A correction, I never really implied that he was a " poor young kid" and I also never absolved the parents entirely. Is possible that the school could have done a better job of preventing this from happening…I am sure there is a realistic liability here as well. Many things come into play in order for this kid to have reached this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
I am asking of you, and you don’t have to reciprocate, is to think about what you have said. No matter how messed up someone is, there is someone out there that cares for and loves that person. We are not talking about natural selection in the wild here; we are talking about a civilized society where people matter, at all ages. To say something like “natural selection among teens is a good thing, helps eliminate stupid people” is not a very wise place to be in your belief system. You should check yourself out on the emotional side…see if something is missing there…
He could've got the Darwin Award had he died.......now he'll just have to settle for being called a plain old "dumb-***"!
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Originally Posted by meatwad
I work with it a lot at the pet shop and it's not THAT bad. Hell of a solvent though and it's got a million and one uses.
Ya_know, I don't care what he does to himself. Life or death, its his existance. What does concern me, and what I have stated several times, is how his choices will affect other peoples lives. If he kills himself doing something stupid, the best that can be said is at least he didn't take anyone else with him. Well, that particular reaper has been dodged. Now what if he wins a lawsuit? What if he ends up with a high powered sports car and no responsibility from his self-inflicted lottery? What if his irresponsibility and high horsepower plow into your car killing your kid? How understanding are you at this point? How unlikely is this turn of events?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
This kid is a danger to not only himself, but others. I believe in personal responsibility. I believe that, in stages, a person must be granted more and more responsibility over his life until he controls all that is allowed him by societal contract. My utopia is a place where every adult has control of his life and respects others control over their own. I don't imagine you disagree much with that philosophy, but our differnce is probably age related. I view him as an entry-level adult. He has had his childhood, time to apply those lessons he has been taught. Do you view him as a kid who is still learning lessons?
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeger
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Originally Posted by meatwad
Dude, I just drank some of that on a dare! :drink: What do I do? Should I go to the hospital, or the attornies office first? Gotta start up that lawsuit! :drink:
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Originally Posted by Camaro80z
Just wait for about an our or so. You will feel a preesure near your crotch and you will need to go to the restroom and point your weiner at a urinal or toilet to releive the pressure. After that you will be just fine.
Anyway you look at it, this kid is plain stupid.
Obviously when God was handing out brains, this kid was busy playing with himself in the corner.
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Originally Posted by ilovetheusers
Thanks. I followed your advise, and I fell better now! :thumbs: