Vote Pairing

There is this process that happens that is starting to gain popularity called, "Vote Pairing". It's not a new process, but people are starting to consider it more this year. Basically the way it works is for people to swap votes. For instance, if I live in California and it is projected that Kerry will win this state, and I team up with someone in another state where Nader is on the ballot and it is very likely that a vote for Nader will give Bush an advantage,... then I can swap votes with this person. In other words, since Cali is already going to win Kerry anyway, I will vote for Nader and my team-mate will vote for Kerry. That way in the swing state, a vote for Nader ends up being an advantage for Kerry.

This sounds good in theory. The legality of it is being questioned though.

I am far from an expert on Law in these matters, but I do not see why this would be illegal. I imagine that all that matters is that you vote only once in your district.

Who you vote for and why is private anyways. But like I said, I am far from an expert.

Why would it be illegal?

Hmmm... any of you Republicans want to swap votes with me? I'll vote for Bush up here, and you can vote for the NDP down there... :cool:

Sounds about as much fun as wife swaping, and getting stuck with a fat pig that snores... :eek2:

So sorry to hear that experiment didn't work out for you, Ya_Know :D

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Originally Posted by Wayward Clam

So sorry to hear that experiment didn't work out for you, Ya_Know :D

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I've never participated. My wife watched one of the shows, and I was forced to watch it with her... :sad:

Ok, I'm trying to figure this out, someone help me. You're telling me someone would push the button for the candidate they don't want in office so your candidate can win and their candidate loses somewhere else?

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Originally Posted by Ya_know

I've never participated. My wife watched one of the shows, and I was forced to watch it with her... :sad:

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Have her watch the Dave Chappelle version of spouse swapping. Very entertaining if I do say so myself.

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Originally Posted by thirdfey

Ok, I'm trying to figure this out, someone help me. You're telling me someone would push the button for the candidate they don't want in office so your candidate can win and their candidate loses somewhere else?

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It definately sounds like liberal thinking... :p

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Originally Posted by Ya_know

It definately sounds like liberal thinking... :p

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Maybe I can put my vote on eBay. I'll vote for Kerry in a state bush won last time for the highest bidder.

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Originally Posted by thirdfey

Maybe I can put my vote on eBay. I'll vote for Kerry in a state bush won last time for the highest bidder.

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I've sold my vote twice already, and got another sale pending...I love democracy! :thumbs:

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Originally Posted by thirdfey

Ok, I'm trying to figure this out, someone help me. You're telling me someone would push the button for the candidate they don't want in office so your candidate can win and their candidate loses somewhere else?

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Right. The reasoning behind is that they know Nader won't win anyway, but at least he still gets the original intended vote AND there will not be an advantage for Bush. This way the election is still mainly between Kerry and Bush, but yet Nader, etc. can still get their votes. The reason this works is because California has 55 electorals. We can afford to give up some Nader votes to help out our green party neighbors. In return, they help us get the democratic votes we need in the swing states. Works out for everyone this way.

So how does it feel to know that your vote in California is really less valuable than someone in Pennsylvania or Florida?

All votes are equal Zil, simma down now.

Personally, its not illegal but I just view this as cheapening the power of the vote. I can't explain it, but that's just my gut reaction and I'm not gonna stop you from doing it because you're free to do as you plz with that vote.

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Originally Posted by thirdfey

All votes are equal Zil, simma down now.

Personally, its not illegal but I just view this as cheapening the power of the vote. I can't explain it, but that's just my gut reaction and I'm not gonna stop you from doing it because you're free to do as you plz with that vote.

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Yes, I know, I was trying some good-ol'-fashioned thirdfey-patented pot-stirring. :thumbs: :devil:

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Originally Posted by thirdfey

All votes are equal Zil, simma down now.

Personally, its not illegal but I just view this as cheapening the power of the vote. I can't explain it, but that's just my gut reaction and I'm not gonna stop you from doing it because you're free to do as you plz with that vote.

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I'm sure that's a great relief to him... he was probably terrified that you were going to try and stop him personally... :D

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Originally Posted by Zil

So how does it feel to know that your vote in California is really less valuable than someone in Pennsylvania or Florida?

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I live in PA and I think that since we are a big swing state with the polls for either candidate that my vote might be worth just a little more. In fact, is it legal to sell my vote? Say a new amd 64 fx for my vote might do. Any takers??

:devil: :devil:

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Originally Posted by Wayward Clam

I'm sure that's a great relief to him... he was probably terrified that you were going to try and stop him personally... :D

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Hey, ya never know. He may of stained his spidy undies while he was reading my reply :devil: :p :eek2:

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Originally Posted by ilovetheusers

In fact, is it legal to sell my vote?

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No. Web's proposed pairing would likely fall under the same law. The proposed pairing is just a barter hence a sale.

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Originally Posted by thirdfey

Hey, ya never know. He may of stained his spidy undies while he was reading my reply :devil: :p :eek2:

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Now that is great idea for another thread.https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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Originally Posted by ilovetheusers

I live in PA and I think that since we are a big swing state with the polls for either candidate that my vote might be worth just a little more. In fact, is it legal to sell my vote? Say a new amd 64 fx for my vote might do. Any takers??

:devil: :devil:

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If thats the case (and I'm guessing you'll decline, but it's worth a shot), then lets team up for a vote pair. I'll vote for your libertarian candidate if you vote for Kerry. Whaddyasay? :D

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Originally Posted by WebHead

If thats the case (and I'm guessing you'll decline, but it's worth a shot), then lets team up for a vote pair. I'll vote for your libertarian candidate if you vote for Kerry. Whaddyasay? :D

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And just how many Libertarians were you planning to make this deal with, Webby? :devil:

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Originally Posted by thirdfey

Hey, ya never know. He may of stained his spidy undies while he was reading my reply :devil: :p :eek2:

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Stop being mean to me Turdfries!! Don't you have some guns to go shoot or something? :p

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Originally Posted by Wayward Clam

And just how many Libertarians were you planning to make this deal with, Webby? :devil:

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You mean I can make the deal more than once? Oooohhhh,... I can make the deal more than once. Right. Gotcha. :thumbs:
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Originally Posted by WebHead

Stop being mean to me Turdfries!! Don't you have some guns to go shoot or something? :p

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:devil: Yes I do but the boss won't let me shoot them while at work after the incident...:devil:

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Originally Posted by thirdfey

:devil: Yes I do but the boss won't let me shoot them while at work :devil:

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Bah! Foiled again!!! I'll get him. If it's the last thing I do. I'll get him!! He'll pay for not letting me shoot my guns. REVENGE IS MINE FOR THE TAKING!! Muaahahahahaha!!

Its like you're reading my mind :eek2:

You have some nerve talking that way. I find your remarks highly offensive and I don't need to listen to that.

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Originally Posted by WebHead

You have some nerve talking that way. I find your remarks highly offensive and I don't need to listen to that.

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One day you'll differentiate reading from listening, until that day i will have pity on you :flame:

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Originally Posted by thirdfey

One day you'll differentiate reading from listening, until that day i will have pity on you :flame:

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I don't know about that. So, what's that whiny voice I've been hearing in my left ear? Damn...the "voice" even has underoo's on.https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

I just feel sorry for both of you.

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Originally Posted by Ya_know

I've never participated. My wife watched one of the shows, and I was forced to watch it with her... :sad:

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Hmmmm. Maybe she's trying to tell you something. You need to make friends with guys who have really hot wives.

By the same token, I'm going to pretend I'm homeless and vote republican when they bus me to the polls.

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Originally Posted by WebHead

I just feel sorry for both of you.

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Come on wrbby! Now you can't appreciate a little humor? I thought that streak in your spidey undies was funny as hell. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

Well OK I think I might do it Webby, but one question. Is there a Bull Moose on the ticket? If not we have an unworkable problem. :sad: :p

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Originally Posted by Major Kong

Well OK I think I might do it Webby, but one question. Is there a Bull Moose on the ticket? If not we have an unworkable problem. :sad: :p

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Does that mean you will vote for Kerry if I vote for your candidate? :D