Blue Screen of Death!!! Win XP Pro SP2

Hello once again guys/gals, I've got a good stumper for ya. My computer crashes about every, oh, 4 hours or so if I'm doing anything on it. if I leave it running idle, it's fine and dandy. Sometimes it will crash during games (GTA3, Black&White, 4x4 EVO 2, etc.) and normally gives me the Blue Screen of Death error for "ati2dvag.dll", sometimes while browsing the web, it will crash with "Win32k.sys" as the problem. my specs are as follows:
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Board: Asus K7M 1.04
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies LTD 2.00 07/25/00
256 Megabytes Installed Memory

61.47 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
48.35 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

HITACHI DVD-ROM GD-7500 [CD-ROM drive]
MITSUMI CR-4804TE [CD-ROM drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

Maxtor 96147U8 [Hard drive] (61.47 GB) -- drive 0, s/n N808NB3C, rev BAC51KJ0, SMART Status: Healthy

900 megahertz AMD Athlon

Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)

GeCube RADEON 9200 SE 128MB Game Buster [Display adapter]
GeCube RADEON 9200 SE 128MB Game Buster - Secondary [Display adapter]
CTX 16.3 [Monitor] (16.3"vis)

Creative Game Port
Creative SB Live! series

HP EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter

Saitek Cyborg Force Rumble Pad
Saitek Cyborg Force Rumble Pad (HID)
HID Keyboard Device
Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
HID-compliant mouse
PS/2 Compatible Mouse
Root Enumerator
USB Root Hub

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all information copied and pasted from Belarc Advisor. any more information needed is available, it's basicly an HP XL768 with XP, an ATI Radeon 9200 SE, an SBLive! 5.1, and an extra gamepad.

Thanks!

GRRR! Same blue screen of death, just now I'm getting page_fault_in_nonpaged_area

and no specifics on whats wrong.

its almost to the point of letting some friends take my hardware and send it to battlebots...I'm tired of this thing.

Sockhatguy

Hi,
First Eliminate the possibility of a Faulty Hardware:
Check Memory - http://www.memtest.org/ - let it run for at lease 6 or 7 Passes.
Check Temprature and Fan - Using MBM http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ .
Don't worry about the program not being updated. Your mainboard is Failrly old :devil: . Check if the problem Occour when There is high temprature or sudden drop of Fans. The program Has the ability to Probe every x Seconds and to write to a variety of log file formats.

Have you run - SFC?

I will be lurking here,
Gabriel

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Which ati driver version ? & tried others ?

Thanks Gabriel and Confus-ed for the replys, to answer your q's, I have run a memory diagnostic from Microsoft, turned it off after 32 passes with no errors. my temps are: case: 38*c, cpu: -48*c (?), sensor3: 0*c. and it lists the voltage, RPM of fans, and cpu mhz.

ATI drivers: wxp-w2k-catalyst-8-062-040929a-018115C, newest drivers, still having problems. Should my video card be listing with/as a secondary? it all seems strange, first time to ever have a problem like this. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

anywho, I'm off to work, thanks for the help! I'll keep any other errors listed and up-to-date on this thread.

two more crashes, win32k.sys. GRR!

anyone know of any good, tall bridges that I can chunk this thing?

The Win32k.sys errors you are getting all point to that age old favourite resource allocations & 'iffy' drivers again .. if it was alright before changing driver then I'd uninstall & re-install 'old' & wait for the next new driver ;) (these newest ones are '.net' driven which imho makes them extra likely to go wrong ;))

Updated mainboard bios here might maybe help ? (if there is one !?!)

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Should my video card be listing with/as a secondary?

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Usually they show this way, belerac seems convinced you've got the dual output variety anyway, do you have say tv out or s-video as well as a standard vga ? (some other 'orrifice' anyway for another screen device to connect to ?) The whole series of these cards is made this way, it fools folks sometimes when they find two vga adapters showing in device manager when there's only physically one & one display.

Hrmms...intwesting...well, I think I'm just gonna shoot the darn thing to put it out of its memory...

The old drivers were worse. I get another 2 hours of playtime between crashes with the new drivers. so I can do stuff for apporoximately 3 hours or so...and then *Poof*

The Vid Card does have S-Video as well as vga...I was just wondering if it was because I had multiple drivers for it or whatnot...user errors... this is my first system to fully modify, a system with some actual power to it compared to what I had (488 P2...ack!)

I have some downtime coming so I'm thinking of looking for some more slot-A or socket-A Motherboards so I can still use AMDs. (I'm not much for pentium). any suggestions? I want to run up to 3.0 GHz on the processor, and have at least a Gig of ram either DDR or PC-100.

ACK! SAFE MODE crash...physical memory dump...just cranked up...(barely, took forever) 0x000000f4 (0x00000003, 0x82697850, 0x826979c4, 0x805fa7a8) something else to look up....GRRR!

Sockhatguy

Maybe I have an answer ?.. ;) .. took me a bit :D .. but I applied this one to a machine yesterday with almost continual reboots with variations of win32k.sys errors (he had maximum uptime of about 1/2 an hour)

VIA Arena - note re AGP gart & xp sp2

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To deliver a quality user experience, a universal standard for AGP drivers, UAGP35, is being adopted by all chipset vendors with AGP 3.5-capable hardware. VIA have worked with Microsoft on this issue for a long time and continue to do so. There are many VIA AGP3.0/3.5 devices which are supported in SP2. VIA's AGP driver contained in the latest Hyperion 4in1 drivers will work properly with Windows SP2, however, the default Microsoft driver is recommended. Please follow the advice below, depending on whether you are installing WinXP and SP2 on a clean system or installing SP2 on top of WinXP SP1.

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So far Billy's 'recommend' is actually working ! :eek2: (try it out & report back please, I haven't tried this enough times yet to decide whether its 'good' or 'indifferent' advice yet ;))

Thanks Confus-ed for the info, though I'm not sure if I'm thinking of the right driver or not...

it's a bit over my head with the VIA drivers...I'm reading up and keeping myself educated with this, but I'm still afraid of zapping all this...but even if I do I'll still be looking foreward to packing it with fireworks.

Alrighty, I am not sure if I have the VIA 4in1 drivers or what...should I go ahead and d/l-install them? just to give them a try? or should I go through with the "system upgrade" listed on those instructions and turn of my previous VIA CPU to AGP Controller drivers? (which mine would be the AMD-751 Processor to AGP Controller....correct?)

I am quite compfused. I'm also starting a new job soon, and I've been cramming information about it also, so I might need to defrag my brain before I attempt to act like I know what I'm doing here...

Thanks!

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.. Alrighty, I am not sure if I have the VIA 4in1 drivers or what...should I go ahead and d/l-install them? just to give them a try? or should I go through with the "system upgrade" listed on those instructions and turn of my previous VIA CPU to AGP Controller drivers? (which mine would be the AMD-751 Processor to AGP Controller....correct?)..

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Ed's simplified 'destructions' :- if you haven't got sp1 just install the hyperions (aka 4-in-1s), but untick the 'agp gart' box ... if you have them already, update to the latest set (or just re-run the latest to make sure all is as it should be) & then open device manager find your gart (so that bit above sounds like the one :thumbs: ) & uninstall it (don't delete or it'll find the VIA version again & not the M$ one), windows will then redect the device using its own inf ..

As an fyi hyperions are 4 part (hence why they were called 4-in-1s) this is made up of a IRQ re-map util for 9x systems, revised '.infs' for VIA chipsets 'better' than M$'s, an updated IDE driver & an updated 'gart' (Graphics Address Relocation Table ) {this works as a 'translator/buffer' between main memory & the card}

well, tried that....thank goodness I created a restore point beforehand, or I would be in deep mess right now.

reboot....password...see background and bootup...one minute later...

crash crash crash crash crash...no blue screen...but a black screen with a blank white cursor that flashes and does not take input. solution: reboot while cramming my F8 key into the bottom plate of the keyboard, restore to last good working condition...close to same problem but XP "found new hardware"...my video card and monitor. re-installed ATI Catalyst drivers for my ATI video card (ATI Radeon 9200 SE) and everything worked fine for an hour. then another blue screen. so I've been taking it easy on the system for the last 2 hours, just listening to internet radio and cleaning the office. has not crashed yet (knocks on wood). anyone else have any idea of what else it might be?

I don't have the original video card or any of the original disks that came with the computer (bought it off Ebay with the 9200, upgraded everything else myself) The computer ran fine when I first got it, I swapped the video card out with a GeForce 4 just to see what the GF4 could do...not much, system started crashing then. uninstalled software and then re-installed the ATI 9200 and have had problems ever since.

I'm tempted to Ebay around for a new Mobo & Processor, I need a Socket A for AMD, and a nice new AMD processor. I don't want to pay for brand-new stuff. but I want something that I can still have fun with when I want to play GTA3.

PS - If I were to upgrade to a new Mobo and Processor, what software would I have to go through for the upgrade? would XP recognize it? would I be able to reuse everything else that I already have? I'm in the grey when it comes to that major of an upgrade.

thanks for all the help guys/gals, and everyone else!

Sockhatguy

Did you have these problems before service pack 2 update?

If you have another hard drive, do a clean install. Is your current drive partitioned?

Re-install Windows, all drivers. Install one program/game and test. Keep installing and test.

My first guess is service pack 2, and or a rogue file from the geforce card. A clean install will test that theory.

Had problems before SP2,
I have an extra hard drive, it does need to be wiped, but also I do not have xp disks or anything, it came on the system. is there a way to burn a disk for the install?

two crashes since the last post, received this form the BSOD: 0x0000008e (0xc000001d, 0x8054af41, 0xeec805a4, 0x00000000)
and "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" 0x0000000a (0xff2125c6, 0x000000ff, 0x00000000, 0x804dbbdc)

microsoft error reporting reports it as a device driver, but has no clue which one...thank you microsoft.

I'd be more than happy to wipe the system and do a clean install, but I don't have an XP disk or any system restore, I do need to work on making one, I just have not gotten around to it because it crashes in the middle of my research for the disks.

Thanks for the info!

Sockhatguy

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Originally Posted by Sockhatguy

.. two crashes since the last post, received this form the BSOD: 0x0000008e (0xc000001d, 0x8054af41, 0xeec805a4, 0x00000000)
and "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" 0x0000000a (0xff2125c6, 0x000000ff, 0x00000000, 0x804dbbdc)

microsoft error reporting reports it as a device driver, but has no clue which one...thank you microsoft...

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So apologies for not specifically telling you to make a restore point ;) (I'm trying to fix stuff not break it !)

.. On this, well guess what I'm gonna say - chipset patches are suposed to fix this & thats what we've just tried (part of the hyperions) .. :rolleyes:

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..A clean install will test that theory ..

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Not here talking about 'my theory' - but I think at this point, my technical diagnosis is 'FUBARed install' ;) & I think this is the way to go to end your pain..(at least maybe try an in-place re-install ? - but most likely some uninstall programme has left something it shouldn't so that mightn't help)

it's impossible to find the correct drivers that work for this stupid card...

it's an ATI Radeon 9200 SE on Win XP Pro. I wish I made a restore point the very second I turned this computer on when I got it. I'm getting random BSOD screens with no reasons listed, just a location, now my driect-x is crapping up (got a BSOD with dxg.sys), that's the only thing holding this system up from being at least decent. Should I switch back to my nVidia GeForce4 MX440? the display will be crappy, but at least I'll be able to play games in low quality.

I got the drivers from GeCube, they worked alright for a bit...and then crapped out just like the others. I would love to have the original drivers that came with the card, but the card came with the compy when I bought it off Ebay, so I'm kinda SOL.

if anyone has the correct drivers for an ATI RADEON 9200SE 128MB PCI video card for Windows XP, and you can send them to me, or direct me to where I can get more help, LET ME KNOW!!!

have you gone the simple route?
I mean have you done an f8 boot to safe mode and run chkdsk /f before reloading the drivers?

All the 'old drivers' for Nvidia Live on links off this page

sorry about the long wait between reply's, was on a weekend road trip to TX. Anywho, the nVidia drivers that I need for the GeForce4 I've already got.

I'm looking for ATI drivers https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/02/1.gif

while in TX I spied a Comp USA, but alas I was too late...the doors were locked, and I could not purchase a new video card...to put this one out of its memory by selling it on ebay...so I'm back where I started, just a few days later.

Any recommendations for a new video card for my system? I'm tempted to get an uber-new card, but I don't want the video card processor to be faster than the CPU...that would just be strange. I want cheap-ish, but very effective and reliable. mostly reliability.

Windows update had some drivers for my ATI, but only supported 2D. it wouldn't let me install any 3D. wouldn't even run DirectX9 diagnostic tests for 3D. so I went back to my original drivers.

btw - the system still crashed with the Windows Upd. drivers.

Oh well. I've had it. anyone want an ATI 9200SE 128MB graphics card? I switched back to my old CeForce 4 MX440...64MB...GRR!. at least it's dependable.

the ATI card will be at my local computer parts store, possibly being traded for a RAM chip or two...or maybe some dusting spray.

Thanks lots everyone for the help and support, too bad ATI wasn't fully behind this model. if anyone knows where I can find the correct drivers that would make it run reliably, I'd be more than happy to plug it back in!

but as for now, I have secondary HDD Virus problems. Another thread altogether. thanks everyone!

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.. I'm looking for ATI drivers https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/02/1.gif ...

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Arrrrgh ! .. confus-ed again ! :rolleyes: - so by way of apology I turned you up this - ATI drivers & archived versions - btw 'chipset' drivers & garts & stuff will come into this also, so anything that windows xp would know about natively has a better chance of just working (i.e the gf4 mentioned which made me confused ;)) for newer stuff you may find you need some other patches to get everything just so & folks don't realise that these other video related things aren't necessarily provided by the video driver & that you need other bits too ..

give this a try...worked for me using a radeon 8500.

Right click-mouse over My Computer
Properties
Hardware(Tab)
Device Manager(button)
Click [+] next to System devices
right-mouse on CPU to AGP Controller (or whatever your controller is called, mine was SiS AGP)
Update Driver(button)

Select Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)
Next(button)
Select Don't search. I will choose the driver to install.
Next(button)
Select PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Next(button)
Finish(button)
Reboot.

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Originally Posted by Sockhatguy

PS - If I were to upgrade to a new Mobo and Processor, what software would I have to go through for the upgrade? would XP recognize it? would I be able to reuse everything else that I already have? I'm in the grey when it comes to that major of an upgrade.

thanks for all the help guys/gals, and everyone else!

Sockhatguy

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Windows XP has some really good native driver support (especially for hardware 1.5+ years old). Otherwise, you can generally get updated drivers from manufacturer websites (www.ati.com / www.nvidia.com / www.via.com.tw/en/index.jsp). Also, new motherboards come with driver disks, so it's usually a non-issue in that regard.

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I have some downtime coming so I'm thinking of looking for some more slot-A or socket-A Motherboards so I can still use AMDs. (I'm not much for pentium). any suggestions? I want to run up to 3.0 GHz on the processor, and have at least a Gig of ram either DDR or PC-100.

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AMD doesn't make a 3.0GHz processor. I think their highest clocked CPU is 2.2 or 2.4GHz, but runs at the equivilant (or better) of a 4GHz Intel chip (the 4000+ chip). If you're going to upgrade and not get "newer" stuff, you'll likely end up getting an Athlon XP CPU (an Athlon 3000+--2.16GHz--run about $100 online for OEM versions, $130 or so for the retail version), and require DDR memory (PC2100, PC2700, PC3200, etc) SDR PC100 and PC133 RAM was last used in Athlon 1.4GHz systems (if I remember correctly).

The 64 bit AMD processors are nice (though a bit more expensive), BUT you can download a free copy of the 64 bit version of Windows XP for free from the Microsoft website, so you could, in theory, get a free copy of Windows (at least until their beta ends). The only downside is that you need a CD/RW drive because the file download is a CD image, not the actual files. And it's about 450 megs or so, which takes a fair bit to download.

Windows XP 64 bit download link:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/6...n/upgrade.mspx

You do have to enter valid contact info, just so you know.

Oh, to answer another question of yours: Unless you have another monitor/TV hooked up, it should NOT display a secondary display adatper in the Hardware Manager under "display adapters."

Good luck.

-<MG>

I don't know what kind of crack this computer is on, but it's really starting to get to me.

I'm having the same problems with the GeForce 4 MX 440 that I had with the ATI 9200SE. ...except the GF4 is much slower (64 MB ram instead of 128 MB ram on the ATI). So, later tonight I'm going back to the ATI, and I will try to contact the Ebay person I bought the compy from, to see if they can send me the original drivers for the ATI 9200SE. I would LOVE to format the drive(s) and start anew from scratch, but the compy came with XP Pro Installed, and no disks for anything.

I tried removing SP2 to see if that was the case, but without SP2, the crashes come even faster than before. I'm going to hold off on the re-install of SP2, so I can at least get the correct drivers up and running before I do it all over again.

I've received a variety of error messages, the error reporting always says a "Device Driver" but it is unknown what driver it is or what caused it in the first place. it mostly happens during graphically-intense gaming, but it also happens when I'm browsing the web. even a couple times while I was trying to post on here.

I'm getting desperate to find a cure for my computer's addiction to crashing, and I'm willing to post any and all information that is asked for, even what size shotgun shell I'm thinking about using to turn the computer into mulch with. (20 Guage buckshot, btw).

most of the BSOD's are for a .dll file, either ATI3dvag.dll, ati3duag.dll, NVsomething something something...all my video device drivers. (the drivers for the current video card, of course. I'm sure to uninstall the previous drivers before adding the new drivers to their respective devices). Thanks again for the help, if anyone has another idea for the ultimate demise of this compy, let me know, I might just record it and post it someday.

Sockhatguyhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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.. I'm having the same problems with the GeForce 4 MX 440 that I had with the ATI 9200SE. ...except the GF4 is much slower (64 MB ram instead of 128 MB ram on the ATI)... I tried removing SP2 to see if that was the case, but without SP2, the crashes come even faster than before. I'm going to hold off on the re-install of SP2, so I can at least get the correct drivers up and running before I do it all over again...

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Start again dude .. FDisk it & be done ;) - if you are convinced you have a legal copy of xp, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't retrieve your original key from your current install & go somewhere 'bad' to find yourself a copy of xp & burn that for later use, or get someone else to give you a copy so that you can start from scratch - my technical diagnosis is FUBARed install (btw that's 'a well known swearword in the past tense' up beyond all recognition! meaning beyond all reasonable repair - ;)) - once you start all this patching re-patching & removing patches that conflict with other stuff something has obviously not worked as expected at some point & spending time trying to figure it all out & fix it is just a waste of time, unless you get lucky & then it probably isn't 'really right' at all anyway.. sure if it then doesn't want to work then I'll mail you some shotgun shells - 12 gauge or would you like 8 gauge as thats for killing bigger things ? :thumbs:

I have an idea...I have no clue if it would work or not...but first...

where do I find my original registry key for my Windblows XP Pro, or what application would I need to get it? If I were to get a copy of Win XP, and with my original key for the clean install after I format my HDD, would it still recognize the key? or would it all just be FUBARed? If that turns to be the case, I'll have a link posted for the video of my compy's demise.

My idea: I have an extra HDD. it is currently inside my computer as an extra HDD. Could I copy & Paste strictly all of the necessary XP files onto the drive, then remove the drive and do a full format of the original drive, and then attempt a re-install of XP from the extra HDD instead of a disk?

I lost ya, didn't I?

Leave it up to me to find a quick fix in the most complicated way...

Just to keep this thread updated, I re-installed the ATI 9200SE. on the card itself it said "GC-9200L/(SE)" on one of the stickers. The card was manufactured by GeCube with the ATI processor. so I installed the manufacturer's drivers. it seemed to be working well. Ran EverQuest for an hour and a half, and even worked fine as I exited the game. I started Ad-Aware and AVG to both perform scans (at the same time...oops), as I was leaving to go to work. I just came home, turned on the monitor...

BSOD. IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
0x0000000A (0x835BD33F, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x80509BDA)

The microsoft website really is not of much help to one that is still studying A+ certification. some of it is familiar, but along with bad links (yes, microsoft.com has bad links *GASP!*)...I learned more reading magazines while on the Porcelain Throne.

So, I'm upset with MS.

my questions: How do I find my registry key so I can do a clean install, also the correct key(s) that I would need so my system is not COMPLETELY FUBARed.

And also, what digital camcorders can record in high-speed so I can play the compy's demise in slow-mo?

I really, really appreciate the help and comic relief, when I'm out of debt I will most definetely donate more to the site. This site has been the best with fast replys and knowledgable staff/Mods. Thanks again guys/gals/paladins/necromancers/druids/etc.

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.. I lost ya, didn't I? ..Leave it up to me to find a fix in the most complicated way... This site has been the best with fast replys and knowledgable staff/Mods. Thanks again guys/gals/paladins/necromancers/druids/etc.

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He-he-he .. your questions are nearly as confus-ed as my style of answering can be ;) I think I recognise a fellow soul who every time he gets an answer to something it just raises more questions ! - its a tough life when you are like that, 'dumb' is so much simpler ;) :eek2: :devil:

& Hey I got promoted ! .. I'm 'staff' now - or maybe a druid or even a paladin ? :D (I bet the last one sends a few looking for a dictionary !) - the forum bit of WD is 'really' seperate from the main bit of the site (the whole place used to be free, but nasty old ecconomic necessity reared its ugly head, so any fees actually go to some shareholders far away in the ether, but it lets us volunteers {no pay for me here sadly} get on with helping folks driven 'potty' by computer issues which is what lured me here in the first place to ask a question & now somehow I feel obliged to try & answer them all ! :rolleyes: This place gets you like that ;) :D, theres thankfully still a few of us lurking who feel the same way :thumbs: )

So .. answers ! (Rather than historical assides etc btw the 'humour' remarks are most appreciated too, this place lets me exercise both my nerd & humour chips together - bonus ! :thumbs2: )

To find your XP key a utility like those Magic jelly beans will be helpful D/l link

I note your errors are still of the 'cocked up' IRQ mis-allocated variety (thats what that IRQ not less or equal error is about (but writing in english isn't a Billy Boy/M$ speciality of course, for all the money that company makes you think they could manage a few $s on sorting out their help stuff - mind you that'd hit my 'day job' hard as his inefficiency in that respect puts food on my table !)

On your 'ideas' well besides a clean install there's a few variations you might choose to try - it depends on what needs saving, first is an over the top re-install or sometimes called a repair installation 'icky' billy Boy 'destructions' link - that should leave programs etc intact - not 100% guaranteed 'supposed to' is more accurate & all service packs/patches need reinstalling but generally they are stored locally unless you tell it different ( I suggested that earlier but I can't fathom whether you did or didn't try that), another is a parallel install where you do a fresh copy in a completely different directory without zapping the original Another 'icky' link .

On your can I 'cut & paste' comments - well yes you can but you won't be able to use it to run or to install from (you really need an install disk for that hence my 'bad' suggestion earlier - loads of machines seem to ship now without propper install disks & its damned inconvient for folks, but as it saves the original manufacturer some pennies so I guess its to be expected), all that'll do is leave your files there so that you can fish out any data you want & I'd suggest you might as well just copy any data that needs saving & brace yourself for a bit of re-installation or go with the repair option - OR you could use something like an imaging tool (for example symantec's Ghost) which can be used to make an exact copy that will run (with a little bit of 'magic' {a boot loader/manager} the nerd term is 'dual boot' - if you want to 'learn' about that - I'm happy to talk you through it)

Digital cameras aren't my strong point ;) - if you have specific requirements open a thread in the appropriate forum giving more detail & one of the other helpers or 'aunty' Noo our head mod will help you probably -she's pretty good with that stuff :))

Edit: if you need advice on the 'bad' stuff I mentioned - please use pm rather than a straightforward post as for legal mumbo-jumbo reasons, direct discussion of those aspects of fixing aren't encouraged at all here, even though in this case I can well see a 'need' & a certain moral legitamacy in being 'bad' ;)

I'm having very similar problems.

I just changed out an NVIDIA GeForce 4400Ti card in my boyfriend's computer to an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (all-in-wonder).

I keep getting blue screens every half hour to 3 hours. First, it was the Stop page, referencing file ati2dvag.dll, and now, more frequently, it is the Stop page referencing Win32k.sys...

From looking around on various forums, I found Microsoft's "work-around" for the problem... Change hardware acceleration to "none" in the advanced display settings. So far, that is working - the computer's been on for about 4 hours with no blue screen, but the negative performance impact is unnacceptable. It's horribly slow. I was thinking of trying to decrease the hardware acceleration only part-way, without going to the extreme "none," but that's still only a half-*** "solution," and I don't think it will work.

On another forum, somebody said, "The problem seems to have been fixed. Following the advice of users on another forum, I disable ACPI in my hardware configuration, went through the driver reinstallation process that followed upon my reboot, and now everything seems to be running *more or less* okay. I did have one momentary glitch, but it seems that ATI's VPU Recover utility caught it and was able to make things run smoothly thereafter. I'm crossing my fingers, but at this point I'm getting infinitely better results than I was before."

He/she didn't go more into detail, though - and I have no idea where to disable ACPI or whether I should.

Someone else, in another forum, said, "Had blue screen crash with this ATI driver, but found that by going into safe mode and changing the video resolution, it would correct the problem. You could then boot into regular windows, change the video mode to whatever you needed and everything works. (I've had to do this on two different machines). Good Luck!" - also with no clarification.

I'm not sure how to change the video resolution, what I should change it to, and whether I should change it!

Ugh.

BSOD. IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
0x0000000A (0x835BD33F, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x80509BDA)

I have encountered this kind of message and is physical dumping afterwards after I switched to Radeon 9200 SE 128mb...I tried to switch to another video card from NVidia...but it is still the same...Later we found out that the problem was on the memory (mine was 256MB DDR PC 333).Maybe the problem is in your motherboard,processor and memory...The card runs great on my computer with specification below. I even tested LOTR the battle for middle earth...it's the best video card I have so far.

My specs:
Athlon XP 2200, Asus AS733 Mother board, 128 MB Radeon 9200 SE video card, 512 MB RAM (2-256 MB DDR PC 333), 80 GB Seagate Barracuda Hard Drive, XP Service Pack 2 OS....

All these posts have something in common...

Nvidia and ATI cards were both used in the same system at different points. That says to me that the old drivers were not uninstalled correctly (or even at all).

guru3d here has some nvidia file removal utils. I would give Nvidia nasty file remover a go and the Detonator RIP

Oh and don't forget add/remove programs to remove nview etc..

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Originally Posted by Sheol

I'm not sure how to change the video resolution, what I should change it to, and whether I should change it!

Ugh.

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Right click on the desktop, properties, last tab- settings
turn the resolution slider down.

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Originally Posted by NooNoo

Right click on the desktop, properties, last tab- settings
turn the resolution slider down.

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Thanks for responding - I knew about Window's standard resolution adjustment... I just couldn't get there without the blue screen, but I have the card working smoothly now.

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