I think I figured out why these arguments and debates are endless

It's because we never have a clear cut winner in anything. Topic starts, case is made, arguement is made, argument gets argued and so on and so forth. Back and forth back and forth until each person and the topic is beaten to a bloody pulp. And why? Because the arguments never officially end. Like in football the time runs out. In baseball the last inning gets played. Etc. We need to find a way to officially declare winners of arguments here. Like a scoreboard, or some official referree's or something. :cool:

I think we have a winner. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

I think we have a winner. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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Are you saying you'd like to be the score-keeper?

No. You're post you knucklehead. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

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Topic starts, case is made, arguement is made, argument gets argued and so on and so forth. Back and forth back and forth until each person and the topic is beaten to a bloody pulp. And why? Because the arguments never officially end.

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Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

No. You're post you knucklehead. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

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So now YOU'RE going to St Louis to clean ice at one of Scott's three new Hockey arenas too? :confused:

Who the hell would decide who won?

I wouldn't trust any of you bozos for the job.

Well... maybe Adept. Maybe not. I'd have to think about it. :D

I will be the official scorekeeper. I'm the only one honest enough to admit to cheating when called on it. That's as honest as they come. :thumbs2:

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Originally Posted by Wayward Clam

Who the hell would decide who won?

I wouldn't trust any of you bozos for the job.

Well... maybe Adept. Maybe not. I'd have to think about it. :D

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*cough* *cough*

ahem :devil:

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Originally Posted by NooNoo

*cough* *cough*

ahem :devil:

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Oh you always decide who wins :p & everybody knows you are merely my puppet :D .. though I might have that a bit confus-ed & maybe you are 'my poppet' :kiss: ? ;)

Using Timed Polls is my suggestion :) & let the will of the people be the 'winner' (folks will have to learn to vote after all the arguements are done though, as you can't add a poll to a thread {unless Aunty Noo you'll volunteer to do this for us ?} after .. I'm thinking close them when they are waffle & add a poll ?)

I think that may be possible, but remember, asking me at 4 in the morning here just cos its only 8pm there will mean you have to wait.

I thought you didn't have the time (or the patience) available to come in and babysit Politicos these days?

Would be good though, to have the judge backed up by moderator power... :D

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Originally Posted by Wayward Clam

I thought you didn't have the time (or the patience) available to come in and babysit Politicos these days?

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Ahh well I thought we were talking about 'everywhere' - but if we/you just mean Politicos - then you can ask ITLU ? as he's in a different time zone etc ..

& I have a sub-suggestion too ! .. for when Noo is having her completely un-needed beauty sleep ;) .. Just make ITLU mod all over the place (With Noo still 'boss' like it is with Don & DA) & then maybe I/others can actually find a mod when we need one, to close things temporarily if they get heated) - in all this months 'great debacle' - lack of 24/7 modding has been the real reason behind all of this ..

(I quite agree with Noo's notion that she can't be here 24/7 & that we shouldn't need to be treated like children, however sometimes things just end up OTT & that's how it is & likely always to be like that here as long as we continue with the 'wind-up' mentality which can most definately go far too far, as we've seen !{gradual escalation, things mis-interpretted etc} )

Scott is up when I am not, so hitting the report post often gets action from the boss long before I wake up. :D

Fair play ;) - I'll make more use of report post then & not send you mails with all the why's & wherefores - Scott just generally shuts them straight off as you say, but .. (how can I put this without pissing him off ? ..mmm ..) - perhaps if he put comment on them, even if its just 'Shut -until you can convince Noo otherwise ..' on them ? (Scott not being bothered by all the 'picky bits' ;) & just cutting to the chase usually) ... look what happened in Orange's case.

Edit: I've had 4 goes at rewording that now .. I hope finally this reads ok now, as I ain't re-wording it again !

No no no,.. you guys aren't getting it. I'm not saying more modding is needed (that just means censoring, banning and all that other bad stuff),.. I'm talking about a referee. Someone to officiate and point out who is fouling, who is off-sides, who stepped out of bounds, someone who could pass out penalty flags which would move the other party back 5 yards,.. I'm talking about who blows the whistle when time is up and then declares the winner of the argument. Get it? :thumbs:

Time is the judge of us all ;)

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Originally Posted by Archer

Time is the judge of us all ;)

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I don't even know what that means? Is this your way of trying to sound smart and philosophical?

Errrr .. nope I don't get it !

Not unless the '..right lets get Aunty Noo to make this a poll & see what the majority thinks then ..' sentiment covers it ?

why does there need to be a winner in any case? are we that insecure about our individuality that we need someone to tell us (and everyone else) we "won" ? seems to me that many on here have a problem making a separation between person and opinion. when someone's opinion/argument is rejected, it seems like that person feels rejected as a whole. i do not agree with some, but i still like those people anyways. imagine a world where we all agree on everything...what a freakin' boring way to live!

another thing that keeps rearing its ugly head is a bunch of name calling...if your argument/opinion is reduced to name calling, then you definitely have to get some new material! go...get some research done...come back and enlighten the rest of us with what you have found, we'd all benefit from it!

but when it comes to opinions, tastes, and other things not "factual" that cannot be rated, let's just show some respect...keep putting yourself in the other person's shoes, and then reply...if something is taken the wrong way, explain yourself, period! what is the major cause of fights on these boards? PRIDE! something we could all have much less of and be much better off without. so how 'bout swallowing our pride once in a while, and nto trying to have the last word at any cost.

I think I'm warming to the 'fake' adept ;) .. (definately only joking incase thats not entirely clear !)

I don't think Pride is the problem, I think lack of respect is the issue & thats not even really deliberate, it just kind of happens sometimes (sometimes it definately though might be deliberate), things just get 'escalated' (starts as funny, gets a little more aggressive etc ) .. & I pressume thats where Webby is going with this & his serach for a 'referee' ?

But thats Noo - so ..? - hell I'm confus-ed again ! - definately theres a problem of some sort as its been like this for years & years - but how the hell you solve it without removing the 'soul' from the place I dunno ..

& just whats wrong with name calling you big Canadian palooka !?! :p - its when people decide its nasty that it becomes a problem ..

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Originally Posted by confus-ed

& just whats wrong with name calling you big Canadian palooka !?!

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just wait till i find out what palooka means you... geezer...then you'll have some fightin' on your handshttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

Check out Flame Warriors ;) - a palooka is "an inexperienced or incompetent boxer" apparently when I look - it was just meant to be a minor insult to illustrate that when its reasonable folks involved then it doesn't matter at all :) (I hope ! :D)

wow, so i was right even in my ignorance (the fighting reference). i'm like a super adept in desguise ;)

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Originally Posted by i n e p t

..i'm like a super adept in desguise ;)

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Naah .. he'd have spelt it right ! :eek2: So you must be different ;)