Where to send old PC's...

One day while I was quietly working on a friend's PC in my room, I thought of a great idea that would better help my understanding of all computers. I remember reading an article in one of those PC magazines (I forget which) about a place where you can send your old computer to. Well, in my strange obsession of collecting junk, I thought about having people send all their old computers to my house, the only disposial fee they would pay would be the shipping. So if any of you would like to dispose of your old, useless computers please contact me at

[email protected]

No computer is too old-- those Commadore 64's and Apple II's of which I have heard so much about are yet to be explored by me.

There's a lot of place old computers can be donated to (non-profit, educational, etc.) that we send all ours too.

But what of those really, really old or totally broken ones, eh?

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Originally Posted by Jeeo

But what of those really, really old or totally broken ones, eh?

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We usually pitch them!!

Ah...... :redeyes: seems such a waste to throw away something that a student could benifit from.. :sad: eh, whatever. :)

Ummmm...are you prepared to apply for a RCRA Class Hazardous Waste permit, RCRA waste handling and recycling permit? Not to mention a Phase IV LDR (Land Disposal Restriction) 40 CFR 268 determination. Not to mention USDOT permits for the shipment of hazardous materials and the additional permitting requirememts of the State of California.

Because of the amount of lead and mercury in the circuit boards and the lead shielding in CRT's when thrown away they are classified as hazardous waste. PC's from an individual household are exempt under RCRA rules, but any PC equipment disposed of from a business are hazardous waste under the D008 and D009 waste codes.

Even if you only accpeted household "used" PC's (never use the term waste https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif) your "establishment" would still be classified at the very minimum as a recycler. There are exemptions though. Never ever refer to what you are doing as waste handling or recycling. You just accept old workable equipment that you are going to reuse. It has a lot to do with terminology. Completely stay away from taking broken equipment.

This is a very touchy issue now and the EPA actually has a couple of proposed rules in regards to PC waste.

If you are wondering how I know so much about this well it's what I've been doing for a living since 1981 (I've even had my hand involved in the drafting of waste rules and guidance for the EPA and the State of Arizona). https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

We have a guy from a local recycling yard who picks ours up and takes them and supposedly takes them for the precious metals on the board........whatever!

Anyways, I never realized there we so many laws involved in disposal. I send our obsolete/busticated equipment with him cause it is free and gets it out of my hair...............I could not get approved to pay shipping to send them off to somebody who wants to collect them, and would not pay the shipping myself either.

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Originally Posted by 3fingersalute

We have a guy from a local recycling yard who picks ours up and takes them and supposedly takes them for the precious metals on the board........whatever!

Anyways, I never realized there we so many laws involved in disposal. I send our obsolete/busticated equipment with him cause it is free and gets it out of my hair...............I could not get approved to pay shipping to send them off to somebody who wants to collect them, and would not pay the shipping myself either.

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What your doing is perfectly AOK. The reason the EPA has not come beating down the doors of every business in the US about PC's is the same reason they had to back off big time in regards to fluorescent lights and Halogenated bulbs back in the early 90's (back then 99% of all fluorescent lights were HazWaste for Mercury and Lead content, the new lights are green and much better - most halogenated bulbs are still hazwaste but can be managed in such a way that they fall out of the category). The US Gov't is the largest user of fluorescent lights & bulbs in the world...the GAO (Government Accounting Office) put the brakes on the EPA in a lock up screeching manner in '94. The disposal cost would have been astronmical for the Fed at you know who's cost, so the regs were rewritten to include a new category called Universal Waste. The same can be said for PC's & CRT's. The EPA has been wrestling with this for some time now. There are some proposed rules out there, but they involve user fees. There has also been some guidance written. Here is a pretty decent link to those who deal with this day to day.

http://www.nysscpa.org/cpajournal/20...ntials/p70.htm

Here's a Department of Interior site that is real good too and has some excellent links.

http://www.doi.gov/greening/waste/computer.html

Folks I could write volumes on this subject, but I'm not sure Scott would appreciate it, so I'll close before it gets way too complicated and I'll have to charge y'all my going rate of $125 an hour...https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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Originally Posted by Major Kong

I'll have to charge y'all my going rate of $125 an hour

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Yow!! :eek2: $125 an hour??..............I need to relocate to Alsaka I guess!

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Originally Posted by 3fingersalute

Yow!! :eek2: $125 an hour??..............I need to relocate to Alsaka I guess!

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No you need to become a Senior Environmental Engineer! https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

It only takes:
Bachelor of Science Environmental Studies - Ferrum College
Bachelor of Science Environmental Health/Minor in Chemistry - ETSU
Institute Degree Mining Engineering - Virginia Tech
Master of Science Technology Environmental Management - Arizona State

Plus a BA degree in History from ETSU while I was waiting around for my BSEH degree at ETSU.

You get them sheepskins and then 22 years experience and you're on your way! https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

All very impressive Mayor, butt, I still want to know what I can do with my garage full of crap. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
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Actually the Major Sir is correct. There is heaps of money to be made by scrapping or wrecking computer parts for the various bits and pieces but the laws make it prohibitive here. We were looking into it after a friend in another state started making a killing on it, but then he got into environmental trouble too.

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All very impressive Mayor, butt, I still want to know what I can do with my garage full of crap. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
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Garage Sale at Trips place!!! https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

Household crap is exempt by Federal regulation it can go to the landfill. Unless there are local regulations. If that is the case see Garage Sale above. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

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Originally Posted by Mayet

Actually the Major Sir is correct. There is heaps of money to be made by scrapping or wrecking computer parts for the various bits and pieces but the laws make it prohibitive here. We were looking into it after a friend in another state started making a killing on it, but then he got into environmental trouble too.

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Hi ya Mayet! How have ya been! How's the little one? :D

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Originally Posted by Major Kong

Garage Sale at Trips place!!! https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

Household crap is exempt by Federal regulation it can go to the landfill. Unless there are local regulations. If that is the case see Garage Sale above. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

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I live on an island. Of course there are local regulations. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
So, how about helping me out with my garage sale then? https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

I live on an island. Of course there are local regulations. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
So, how about helping me out with my garage sale then? https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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Hey Trip, Mrs Titchski is putting together a garage sale at our place in the first week or so of December. Give me a call if you want to join in the fun

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Originally Posted by Titchski

Hey Trip, Mrs Titchski is putting together a garage sale at our place in the first week or so of December. Give me a call if you want to join in the fun

:thumbs:

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Can I borrow your truck? https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif


PS
Thanks, btw. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

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Originally Posted by Major Kong

Hi ya Mayet! How have ya been! How's the little one? :D

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Major Sir, I am just head over heels in love with my fat little bundle of Joy...

Her name is kahleah Celeste and its hawaiian for clear and bright. Celeste means heavens and starry sky and that stuff...and she lives so much up to her name. She has blue eyes and dark reddy hair, i don't know where they came from because all my tribe and hubby and stuff are dark eyed and dark haired.

She has huge dimples and is always jolly. She grins at the kids and me when we come near her and she has been trying earnestly to fit her fist in her mouth for the last two weeks. I have never seen her cry tears. She has whinged once with a touch of wind since she was born but thats it, Not for weeks and weeks now at all. Shes strong sits up holding onto one of my fingers, can roll over and stand up if i am holding her. She reaches for me and snuggles right in.... shes around 15 weeks now I lose track..turns four months on the 22nd of Nov....

Do I sound like a proud mum...because i am so proud ....I am enjoying spending every minute with her and not rushing back into work until shes older, I still have the jobs on the rollaround but i don't need to pressure myself to go back into fulltime.

http://www.southburnett.net/ka56d2.jpg

Oh my Mayet!!! ibunny (my wife) is sitting here with me and we both said at the same time how adorable!!! https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

isn't she just.........heaps more of The kids in the following link
http://southburnett.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2203


krystals got her own site now.
http://www.rejectz.com
her forums are really popular
oh ....and shes modelling now, getting heaps of photographic work, they all want to shoot her for some unknown reason.... :devil: .

https://forums.windrivers.com/

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and if ya'll are bored by my gorgeous kids...bad luck...I think they are so special.....

OMG Mayet Krystal has grown into a beautiful young lady!!!! My oh my!!! :)

You're right I don't have a clue as to why photographers would want to shoot her. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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OMG Mayet Krystal has grown into a beautiful young lady!!!! My oh my!!! :)

You're right I don't have a clue as to why photographers would want to shoot her. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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I know I've been sick for two weeks and kind of out of it, but it's not Friday already is it? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Mayet

isn't she just.........heaps more of The kids in the following link
http://southburnett.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2203


krystals got her own site now.
http://www.rejectz.com
her forums are really popular
oh ....and shes modelling now, getting heaps of photographic work, they all want to shoot her for some unknown reason.... :devil: .

https://forums.windrivers.com/

https://forums.windrivers.com/


and if ya'll are bored by my gorgeous kids...bad luck...I think they are so special.....

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Mayet, you may find the fact that we agree again remarkable, but I agree:
you have some gorgeious kids. btw: the xtra beautiful one looks like her mom, which is a really good thing.
I mean WOW!
You must be soo proud. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif
I am truly happy for you!

The joys of a good family outweigh all other considerations, in my book.
Congratulations!

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Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

I live on an island. Of course there are local regulations.

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Don't worry, Trip, I'm sure one of these days you won't screw up a scheme of the Professor's, and you'll be able to get back to civilization at last... :thumbs:

i think my family is just the bestest.

Watching them grow and learn and watching Krystal spread her wings and fly is fantastic, just what life is all about.

My kids have made me much more settled and ya Trip...I guess i have mellowed...

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Originally Posted by Wayward Clam

Don't worry, Trip, I'm sure one of these days you won't screw up a scheme of the Professor's, and you'll be able to get back to civilization at last... :thumbs:

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, snort, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOW!

lol wow... theres alot of new info i learned :)

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Originally Posted by MobilePCPhysician

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, snort, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOW!

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It wasn't that funny Mobile. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
Besides, Mary Ann provides the one good excuse for never leaving the island. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif


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Originally Posted by Mayet

My kids have made me much more settled and ya Trip...I guess i have mellowed...

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You're still Mystical though, right? https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

I am still me...and your bound to P$ss me off before the weeks out i am sure... :devil:

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Originally Posted by Mayet

I am still me...and your bound to P$ss me off before the weeks out i am sure... :devil:

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https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifAnd vice-versa.
Somethings never change, do they?
Or, do they?
Whatever, it is really good to have you back home. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif

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Originally Posted by Jeeo

One day while I was quietly working on a friend's PC in my room, I thought of a great idea that would better help my understanding of all computers. I remember reading an article in one of those PC magazines (I forget which) about a place where you can send your old computer to. Well, in my strange obsession of collecting junk, I thought about having people send all their old computers to my house, the only disposial fee they would pay would be the shipping. So if any of you would like to dispose of your old, useless computers please contact me at

[email protected]

No computer is too old-- those Commadore 64's and Apple II's of which I have heard so much about are yet to be explored by me.

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If you wish to dispose of used equipment, see if there is a local Freecycle group in your area. You can donate it to someone that will use it. Freecycle.Org. Not just for computers anymore ;-)

Kenny P., Owner - KenoshaCountyFreecycle
Visualize Whirled P.'s

damn, that's one cute looking baby you got there (and i usually think babies are ugly), and the older daughter is gorgeous. I'm seally surprused at the number of pictures of real good looking women i'm seeing in a tech forum.