Has anyone else noticed....

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November 15th, 2004, 03:15 PM
PuterGeekGirl

Has anyone else noticed....

Ever since working in IT (ok, I work in a corporate enviornment) I seem to get MUCH sicker than I ever did before starting this job. My theory is all the machines I end up at and peoples kb's that I touch....Lord knows what some of the illnesses they have had and are passing on. This season already I've had 2 sinus infections and once case of strep throat.

I know, use the antibacterial stuff and wash my hands alot...but 1/2 the time I forget the antibacterial stuff, and no amount of washing seems to do it 100%

I'm just wondering as it seems the other tech here is sick way more often too.

Has anyone else noticed this?
November 15th, 2004, 03:17 PM
TripleRLtd

The maintenence guy at one of customers won't shake anyones hand anymore. Whenever I see him, I shake air as a sort of "salute".
;-)
November 15th, 2004, 03:22 PM
WebHead

This is really a good point. I always wash my hands after working on someones computer, but still. There's stuff we ingest through breathing, etc. So I guess the big question is,... how to avoid it? Should I start wearing a mask and rubber gloves?
November 15th, 2004, 03:27 PM
3fingersalute

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebHead

This is really a good point. I always wash my hands after working on someones computer, but still. There's stuff we ingest through breathing, etc. So I guess the big question is,... how to avoid it? Should I start wearing a mask and rubber gloves?

I always spray every computer down I touch with a garden hose first!! :devil:
November 15th, 2004, 03:27 PM
Cleetus

Not really, but my drinking levels keep rising as my hatred for all humans keeps rising due to this job.
November 15th, 2004, 03:33 PM
WebHead

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3fingersalute

I always spray every computer down I touch with a garden hose first!! :devil:

Yeah exactly. Whatever it takes. People can be quite disgusting.
November 15th, 2004, 03:42 PM
PuterGeekGirl

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebHead

This is really a good point. I always wash my hands after working on someones computer, but still. There's stuff we ingest through breathing, etc. So I guess the big question is,... how to avoid it? Should I start wearing a mask and rubber gloves?

I've thought about it... :thumbs: as I'm having heart surgery next month and need to stay healthy for it...since I just got this last sinus infection they gave me some stuff thats supposed to keep me from getting anymore of this "crap" til the surgery...hopefully it works! If so, maybe I'll sign up for some every year! :D :D

We need to somehow band together to prove this is whats causing it...and demand either hazard pay, or more sick time! :thumbs2:
November 15th, 2004, 03:44 PM
jitBob

Yeah, getiing sick more often is part of the job. I wonder if being inside all the time has anything to do with it?
November 15th, 2004, 03:52 PM
gazzak

Personally no, I've never been healthier since I've been in I.T. However I'm rarely in the same office 2 days in a row.
November 15th, 2004, 03:55 PM
Stalemate

Interesting notion.

I have definitely been getting more since getting into IT 5 years ago.
November 15th, 2004, 04:04 PM
PuterGeekGirl

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzak

Personally no, I've never been healthier since I've been in I.T. However I'm rarely in the same office 2 days in a row.

I'm the opposite, I've never caught as much "crap" or used as much sick time as I have in I.T. :(
November 15th, 2004, 04:36 PM
Cleetus

I have gotten fatter :thumbs:
November 15th, 2004, 05:07 PM
gazzak

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleetus

I have gotten fatter :thumbs:

http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=66278
November 15th, 2004, 05:15 PM
Archer

Well they do say viruses can mutate so maybe..............
November 15th, 2004, 06:14 PM
WebHead

I think an experiment will need to be setup to examine this whole issue more closlier. We will need a control subject and an experimentation subject. Who's going to volunteer?
November 15th, 2004, 06:34 PM
confus-ed

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuterGeekGirl

Ever since working in IT (ok, I work in a corporate enviornment) I seem to get MUCH sicker than I ever did before starting this job. My theory is all the machines I end up at and peoples kb's that I touch....

Its a scientific fact this is .. it must be ! It says so in the Inquirer :D

Quote:

..office workstations average 400 times as many germs as the average toilet seat..
November 15th, 2004, 06:41 PM
meatwad

I always thought it was the recycled air.
November 15th, 2004, 06:41 PM
craigmodius

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebHead

I think an experiment will need to be setup to examine this whole issue more closlier. We will need a control subject and an experimentation subject. Who's going to volunteer?

Cleetus go lick all the keyboards, and then we gots to cut out yer tongue and stick it under a microscope.

as for me I've never been healthier. I think
November 15th, 2004, 11:30 PM
FatalException0E

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuterGeekGirl

Ever since working in IT (ok, I work in a corporate enviornment) I seem to get MUCH sicker than I ever did before starting this job. My theory is all the machines I end up at and peoples kb's that I touch....Lord knows what some of the illnesses they have had and are passing on. This season already I've had 2 sinus infections and once case of strep throat.

I know, use the antibacterial stuff and wash my hands alot...but 1/2 the time I forget the antibacterial stuff, and no amount of washing seems to do it 100%

I'm just wondering as it seems the other tech here is sick way more often too.

Has anyone else noticed this?

My theory....dust.

My skin goes nuts from contact with dust: itching like crazy, red marks, bumps. My hands have kind of gotten immune to it, but I have to wash them all the time. If my hands are covered in dust and I scratch an itch on my face, I look like I've hit a second puberty....and I don't even want to THINK about going to the bathroom without washing the dust off my hands.:eek:
November 16th, 2004, 12:17 AM
WebHead

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatalException0E

My theory....dust.

My skin goes nuts from contact with dust: itching like crazy, red marks, bumps. My hands have kind of gotten immune to it, but I have to wash them all the time. If my hands are covered in dust and I scratch an itch on my face, I look like I've hit a second puberty....and I don't even want to THINK about going to the bathroom without washing the dust off my hands.:eek:

Yeah,.. and dust is mainly made up of peoples dead skin. Yikes!
November 16th, 2004, 01:11 AM
TechZ

it is true, in fact working in any kind of environment where you would come into contact with germs from so many other people would make you sick, its common sense.
November 16th, 2004, 02:17 AM
GrandDad

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechZ

it is true, in fact working in any kind of environment where you would come into contact with germs from so many other people would make you sick, its common sense.

Is that why when I was going to school
I was always sick ? :D
November 16th, 2004, 06:12 AM
Great White North

I put forth WebHeads Name for the experiment
November 16th, 2004, 09:03 AM
PuterGeekGirl

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechZ

it is true, in fact working in any kind of environment where you would come into contact with germs from so many other people would make you sick, its common sense.

Yes and no, because before I worked in IT, I worked in an office enviornment for years...and never got this sick until I started the workstation to workstation thing....so yes, I was still around the same amount of people before...just not touching their keyboards like I do now...thats what I mean...

I say we strike for better working conditions.... :D :D
November 16th, 2004, 09:04 AM
PuterGeekGirl

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigmodius

Cleetus go lick all the keyboards, and then we gots to cut out yer tongue and stick it under a microscope.

as for me I've never been healthier. I think

Does licking the mice of those I don't like when I have step count?!?!? Hey, I got it from one of them, so gotta spread the love, right?? :D :D
November 16th, 2004, 09:28 AM
Titchski

I'm developing a nice ulcer from working at this hell hole. :rolleyes:
November 17th, 2004, 03:47 AM
DownBeachBreeze

Closed window environment illnesses

A study was done years ago of people allergic to chemicals in the environment and closed offices. There are appox. 80,000 chemicals produced in the world, 10,000 of which are identified for their effect on humans. Thousands of these identified chemicals are known and banned for their ill effects on people. The other 70,000 chemicals are not yet deciphered for their effects on people. A pbs documentary I watched a couple of years ago probably has info on it. Check out PBS and do a search of shows on "Chemicals in the envirnment". If you do find that you have chemicals in your system which are making you sick, and there is a device shown on that show that detects these chemicals in the human body.
Solution: Research fasting. Fasting cleanses the body of impurities. However, if done without knowing how it can be done safely can produce ill effects. Consider "The Complete Handbook of Nutrition by Gary and Steve Null". It has a chapter on fasting you can use as a start.

DownBeachBreeze
November 17th, 2004, 05:32 AM
3fingersalute

Quote:

Originally Posted by DownBeachBreeze

A study was done years ago of people allergic to chemicals in the environment and closed offices. There are appox. 80,000 chemicals produced in the world, 10,000 of which are identified for their effect on humans. Thousands of these identified chemicals are known and banned for their ill effects on people. The other 70,000 chemicals are not yet deciphered for their effects on people. A pbs documentary I watched a couple of years ago probably has info on it. Check out PBS and do a search of shows on "Chemicals in the envirnment". If you do find that you have chemicals in your system which are making you sick, and there is a device shown on that show that detects these chemicals in the human body.
Solution: Research fasting. Fasting cleanses the body of impurities. However, if done without knowing how it can be done safely can produce ill effects. Consider "The Complete Handbook of Nutrition by Gary and Steve Null". It has a chapter on fasting you can use as a start.

DownBeachBreeze

Link Please???
November 17th, 2004, 06:27 AM
confus-ed

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3fingersalute

Link Please???

Is your google busted or was that just a pp as opposed to a wotpp ? :p

The Complete Handbook of Nutrition by Gary and Steve Null $9.50 at Amazon & the ISBN is 0440116139 & if you meant 'A study' then 'years ago' probably indicates hearsay that you are supposed to just accept (though it sounds not unreasonable to me that there should be lots of chemical compounds produced which haven't been adequately tested) ..

But I am confus-ed on why DownBeachBreeze sent me a pm with the exact text of his/her post ?

Yeah sure detox is probably good, but so is avoiding exposure too !
November 17th, 2004, 08:51 AM
PuterGeekGirl

Quote:

Originally Posted by confus-ed

But I am confus-ed on why DownBeachBreeze sent me a pm with the exact text of his/her post ?

You got one too, eh?
November 17th, 2004, 09:21 AM
confus-ed

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuterGeekGirl

You got one too, eh?

Awww you made me sad now ! :D .. There was I thinking I was all special & stuff ..;)

So the mystery deepens {I'd like everyone to hum some dramatic music at this point please ! :devil: }.. unless for whatever reason DownBeachBreeze felt compelled to pm all folks subscribed to this thread ?

Did anyone else get one too ?
November 17th, 2004, 09:33 AM
silencio

Quote:

Originally Posted by confus-ed

Yeah sure detox is probably good, but so is avoiding exposure too !

If I could summon one, the memories from my 20s would heartily disagree.... on both counts.
November 17th, 2004, 01:18 PM
DownBeachBreeze

Chemicals in the environment

Sorry, you guys asked the question and since there are so many replys without expanation I thought you would of missed the answer. I'm new here but I'm learning.
There are people who have already answered the question you have asked. The trouble is can you find the answer? For every question you can ask you can find an answer I learned in college. Studies have been done somewhere, sometime. You just have to find the answer and the web makes that possible.
PBS in the United States did a Documentary a couple of years ago. All you have to do is find it.

DownBeachBreeze
November 17th, 2004, 02:04 PM
meatwad

Quote:

Originally Posted by DownBeachBreeze

Sorry, you guys asked the question and since there are so many replys without expanation I thought you would of missed the answer. I'm new here but I'm learning.
There are people who have already answered the question you have asked. The trouble is can you find the answer? For every question you can ask you can find an answer I learned in college. Studies have been done somewhere, sometime. You just have to find the answer and the web makes that possible.
PBS in the United States did a Documentary a couple of years ago. All you have to do is find it.

DownBeachBreeze

Please pick up the nearest gun and shoot yourself before you destroy anymore minds like you have mine. It's too late to save me, but others can live damn it!
November 17th, 2004, 02:13 PM
confus-ed

Quote:

Originally Posted by DownBeachBreeze

Sorry, you guys asked the question and since there are so many replys without expanation I thought you would of missed the answer. I'm new here but I'm learning...

No worries ;) .. folks lock onto whatever previous posts they'd like to expound upon frequently, so very often very emminently sensible answers can be apparently lost in the mayhem, as folks dip in & out of the forums all the time just answering replies they've got from old threads or finding new ones where they can add to the content or just poke some fun/have a laugh etc - topic title & general subject aren't always what every post will be about, 'assides' are a particular skill/love here as we all seem to love to wander completely off the point !

This can all take some getting used to, but I hope you'll stick around long enough to fathom that out for yourself :thumbs:
November 17th, 2004, 02:16 PM
confus-ed

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatwad

Please pick up the nearest gun and shoot yourself :eek2: :devil: before you destroy anymore minds like you have mine. It's too late to save me :rolleyes: ..:D, but others can live damn it! :grin:

Be careful with the newbie if you please :p - I have taken the liberty of requoting you with some smilies added to (hopefully?) match your intent !?! ;)
November 17th, 2004, 02:18 PM
meatwad

Quote:

Originally Posted by confus-ed

Be careful with the newbie if you please :p - I have taken the liberty of requoting you with some smilies added to (hopefully?) match your intent ! ;)

I might have used an :eek: and put the maniacal laughter after 'too late to save me', but you're pretty darn close ed. :thumbs:
November 17th, 2004, 05:41 PM
DownBeachBreeze

3fingersalute Link Please???
In answer to your request for a link to the Chemicals
PBS documentary.

You can find the PBS Frontline report on these web pages.
http://www.pbs.org/search/search_res...onment&spell=1
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...t/envchem.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...t/testing.html

An example of what is dicussed from the above web address:

"Most people probably assume that man-made chemicals get tested for safety. After all, the EPA, with its huge bureacracy, has been successful over the years in banning pernicious substances like PCBs.
The reality is that a majority of the 75,000 industrial chemicals that are in everyday use have not even been tested for basic health effects like cancer and toxicity, according to a detailed study conducted by the Environmental Defense Fund. And many chemicals have never been tested for neurotoxicological or developmental effects that these substances could pose to humans and the environment. The EPA has just recently started to address the issue of testing endocrine disrupting chemicals.
According to the report "Toxic Ignorance" published in 1997, approximately 75 percent of 3,000 chemicals produced in high volumes did not go through the most rudimentary tests for toxicity. Less than half of these chemicals were tested for reproductive toxicity, carcinogenicity, neurotoxicity and immunotoxicity -- all basic requirements under the internationally accepted definitions for minimum screening set by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development Chemicals Program."

DownBeachBreeze
November 17th, 2004, 08:31 PM
confus-ed

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatwad

I might have used an :eek: and put the maniacal laughter after 'too late to save me', but you're pretty darn close ed. :thumbs:

:thumbs2: - an outbreak of 'reasonableness' from two of us at once ;) - well I never :devil:

Now the question is should I be my usual ecco warrior & give DownBeachBreeze the support I think that post deserves & wholeheartedly agree, or should I, having been far too nice for me on this page already, be a contrary git ? https://forums.windrivers.com/
November 17th, 2004, 11:00 PM
GrandDad

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Originally Posted by confus-ed

be a contrary git ? http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...l/Fool/daz.gif

Sounds good https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

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