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FYI, there's a new version of Free AVG to update too (been out for a month I think). You no longer need a code to activate it either. www.grisoft.com
May be it is just me, but I found new version less capable of actually healing viruses (detecting is still O'K, if not better) and working much slower than version 6...
Yeah. It's happened before Rus, and you know it.
It seems to be the way for the IT world...https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
Im getting rid of AVG, and moving totally to NAV on my lappy too.
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Originally Posted by TechZ
You might also try Avast! Home Edition.
It is free, but you need to register it, and get a darn serial, like AVG, but it has many more features than avg, such as P2P monitor, IM monitor, Internet Mail, POP/IMAP/SMTP monitor, network monitor.
I have used it for a few months and have loved it.
It even detected a few viruses that were saved to a shared drive on a server, from a client that had it mapped. :)
www.avast.com
And hey, it even talks to you!
"Virus Database has been updated!"
or [Submarine Sounds] Virus has been detected! [\Submarine Sounds]
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Originally Posted by bbtech6650
hehe
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Originally Posted by bbtech6650
Another free one? Cool.
As a side note I'm running AVG on several machines and I haven't noticed any issues yet. It picked up some things hidden in zip files that the older version did not pick up as well.
running two machines at home, so easier to update them together, rather than updating one at a time, and since I'm gonna have a stupid b/w cap, gotta watch those MB's. I still prefer old reliable NAV.
If you looked at the website I posted a little, It has a section where you can download the vps database updates, and you can turn off automatic updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by TechZ
http://www.avast.com/eng/update_avast_4_vps.html
sorry, lazy I was.
I'm sticking to NAV though. Its never let me down before, and now the new NAV2K5 running on my lappy also detects suspicous malware.
That's gotta be an oxymoron ! :p - reliable ?!? - you of course had crack on your kornyflakes this morning ? ;) - Its 'pooh' with trojans, need to get another bit (remember we have to pay for all these seperate bits now) - has an absolute 'hissey fit' everytime you install it on any machine with multiple accounts - is slow 'as a dog' on anything 'disk intensive' like a full scan :rolleyes: - doesn't like other stuff present such as ZAP - can it look inside compressed archives (zip, rar etc) without unpacking them either ?(I'm not sure on this one, but I don't think it can) - & just to cap it off it sucks RAM up like a sponge !Quote:
Originally Posted by TechZ
NAV only gets 'rave reviews' as most of the testers use it on machines with just 'billy's stuff' on them :rolleyes: :p - this dude here has it 'very right' if you ask me ;) - Tests- Norton AV 2004
I've felt like that too, but after using a free one like AVG, I've come to appreciate the benefits of an AV that actually costs money, I'm using NAV2K5 and its pretty good, sure full scan takes a hella long time, but it plays well with ZAP now and does a good job with spyware too.
Well its better than 2004 for sure .. but it'll be a cold day in hell before I go that far :p , in a corporate environment set up & installed by someone who is aware of 'its special needs' it can be 'ok' - but start & give it some software they won't having running in your general standard office environment & its still likely to have a 'hissey fit' ..Quote:
Originally Posted by TechZ
However I will share Ruslan's earlier reservations about 'new & improved' AVG 7 - I don't think its 'improved' either :) - its catching 'more' (its not catching anymore really as far as my tests are telling me - what its picking up is cross-infection of other files earlier as far as I can tell - it doesn't find anymore 'seed' entries, but finds them as they are 'working' better - so the resident shield bit got better) but at the cost of speed methinks ..
My jury is back out again on just whats 'best' for free - avg6 had it .. but now I think I need another verdict ;)
I've been using AVG for years, only been infected twice and that was me just not keeping things up to date. I haven't had a problem with the new version except that there is no way I can find to purge the SMTP "server". I've had more issues with NAV2x messing up things than AVG. Symantec is my next favourite for the ability to detect infection, but it's simply too bulky. In my experience NAV is the one with the problem removing infections but it's light years better than the McAfee alternative. One problem is nothing is 100% effective. Another problem is that these virus scanners are now picking up spyware and stuff as "viruses", which by definition most of them are not. I find this annoying. Many a time a customer has called me and said I missed viruses on their computer and it ends up being a ad/spyware thing they installed with kazaa or something. The price is right with AVG as far as I'm concerned...
Gotta agree with the above, been using AVG 6 for the last two years and not one infection, it has even found stuff that NAV missed on other peoples machines when I've slapped the hard disk into mine to re-scan it.
I use SAV corporate 9 at work on the server as it sucks less juice than NAV2K4 and is easy to manage through one central console, you can even hide the system tray icon to stop users messing with it themselves. Had nothing but grief when installing NAV2K4 on home computers that have less than a Gig of RAM!
may just have to try out AVG 7 now ...
For one thing its not that easy, if you use the internet with some sense, to get a virus in the first place, my main source, is my moms floppies that she brings from work. AVG has in the past missed a virus that NAV caught, so I was pretty dissapointed and its horrible at cleaning the virus, it just says run AVG to clean it, they really want you to spring for the PRO version. At least NAV isnt leading you on and keeping updates from you!
TechZ~ Do you set the AVG real time protection (resident shield) to use Heuristic Analysis?
Alotta times this will make it more effective.
I'm sure it'll still miss the occasional virus, but same with McAffee or Norton etc.
Used AVG6 for a while and thought it was really cool, only problem I had was the update manager not working, but some clever chap here got me sorted....
I have been using AVG7 for some weeks and like the layout and I still have not been hit with a virus. Combined with spybot and Zone Alarms, my home pc has never had an issue, nor have any of my friends who have installed.
Wouldn't stick Norton on my personal equipment for a million bucks, ok maybe I would if someone wants to test me! :thumbs2:
I started with NAV, and since its never let me down, yet, I'm gonna stick with it.
And Heuristics is always on for me craigm.
switched to avg 7 and it found two viruses avg 6 didnt see :/ and I update avg every day. Ohwell I have not had a problem with avg 7
Have you guys tried Panda?
Seems to do an excellent job without the price and "bloatware" issues.
Have had problems with Norton recently
Am currently testing Panda 2005 - machine must be clean for a successful install. Seems once installed it runs as well as 2004 and picks up all the trojans as well
I've been using AVG 7.0, the paid version since 4/04 and I've had zero problems with it. Compared to NAV 2004 that crashed twice and would only work with a complete re-install... two years of definitions vs. one year on NAV 2004 and it was only $33.Quote:
Originally Posted by corturbra
Is the free AVG 7.0 the same as the paid version???
Yes & no he said confus-edly :D .. nearly but not quite, you get a better schedule manager & newer pattern updates & you can get online help - but as far as I can tell no other 'real' differences, so methinks for most not worth paying for ! :eek2: .. I'd say its only 'worth' the money when you want to protect something more than 1 pc, then since we are paying I might be recommending other products anyway ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NetScum
confuse-edly I use NAV2K5 now on both my Desktop and lappy.
gotta say this, anyone still using NAV either has a hell of a lot of spare time, or absolutely no critical data.
in the last month, I have had 5 PC's in my workshop. ALL with NAV installed and a full system scan found "ZERO" virii on the PC. A quick hook up to the broadband and a visit to PANDA's online scanner was a little more eyeopening. One of the machines had 45 infections one was MSBLAST!!
My current choice is EZARMOR 2005 with PEST PATROL v5. I also do a monthly visit to PANDA - Nothing on the pc in over 2 years now.
I used to swear by NAV - Not anymore, and neither do the 5 customers that came to the workshop!!
Another thing I have done is switched over to Firefox - Yeah Baby!!
I'll relate a story, I dunno if I've mentioned this before... but I had this computer come in that was obviously laden with all sorts of viral goodness. I detached the hard drive and attached it to my own tech machine and ran AVG (scanning all files and it was AVG 6 at the time) It for something like 100 files infected with a myriad of viruses. I also ran an updated NAV2004 which also found infected files again ranging in different types. I then reinstalled the drive in the computer and ran the dumb fprot garbage which now was able to load properly. It found a few more. I ran Panda's online one, found 5 more. Ran Trend Online, found 4 more. Ran Bitdefender, found 1 more. I couldn't believe it. I removed the crappy F-Prot poop and tried to install AVG and it wouldn't go. I ended up running a "dos based" program from kaspersky I think that found 1 more. Then AVG installed fine and the customer has been fine ever since. There were viruses I've never heard of and even some old school klez, magistr and hybris. How the heck he got all that crap is beyond me as he says he just "uses it for email". Whatever buddy... So that just proved to me how useless these virus scanners are.\
PS Specific numbers of viruses I'm not sure on, but you get the idea....
The thing with AV software is always the fact that one of them is going to miss something, where another one will find it. I was a big fan of Norton, but in my opinion, ever since 2003, their software is becoming crap. Problems with installing, errors after installing etc, however, the corporate version is sweet. Efficient and non-taxing. Does a very good job at quarantine and or removal. Just my $0.02
That reminded me one customer's computer what came in with OS completely consisted ... of viruses... :D slow as hell... consider this - on his 30GB harddrive AVG 6 found ... no kidding... more than 35000 (!) infected files plus about 1500 of spyware stuffs were found by AdAware... Just for laughs, it took about 1,5 hours just to remove/heal of those infected files after tests finished... And the most funniest thing was - he had NAV installed and stayed resident (but guess what - never been updated!)...
As it seems to me, most of customers never uses their NAV even with 90 days subscriptions, installed by PC manufacturer... and NAV without updated virus database cannot catch even relatively old viruses...
OK, so not much faith in NAV anymore.
THe once incident on my lappy I remember is AVG not picking up a virus in a zip file, moved the fiel (unknowingly) to the desktop and NAV2K3 found it immediately.
What I mean to say is no AV is perfect so what do we do? Keep 3-5 of them running at all times? No, i Guess no, Online scan are a healthy option for a once a month/week kind of thing, and well gotta trust an AV, there are no best ones, everyones got their own opinion.
TAke arch0nmyc0n's story, see how many he neeede to get it all done!
For years now i have been using AntiVir and let me tell you: its perfect.
Does not mess up the system like norton,
its better than norton at detecting and eliminating virus.
Just go to http://www.free-av.com/ and try the free, no serial, personal edition: you will like it for shure. If not, tell us why.
Greetings from the country of Sun
Seen that on a few machines around here. I was looking at them cause they were infected with viruses ;PQuote:
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PS if you guys haven't seen my screenshot yet check it out here:
http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/arc...12.jpg&.src=ph
I think with 71% infection, that puts me on top! :P
The other issue is that virus companies are on the back end of the curve. New virus's come out all the time and the virus companies are on the catch up. On the other hand (for you conspiracy theory people, like me ;)) sure is funny how they have a repair tool out so quickly.
Yeah, but who gets the patchs out first, and who get to use them first, I doubt the AVG Free users get the very latest, the very first!