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Anybody else see Robert Ferguson get clotheslined by Donovin Darius?
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/football/..._darius_ap.jpg
Not a huge fan of either team but that's just such a cheap shot. I noticed they got him (Darius) out of the stadium pretty fast after he was ejected....that crowd was pi$$ed!
Frerguson just got a sprained neck so he'll be okay, but damn what a shot he took!
I missed that, but he needs more than just a 1 game ejection for **** like that. These guys are paid a lot of money to play this sport, and they need to act professionally.
Absolutley. Out a number of games and good sized fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3fingersalute
Clothes lining used to be a major part of the game, which is about beating the **** out of the next guy. Someone got hurt, life goes on.
Professionally? These guys are paid millions to_knock the crap out of eachother. What's wrong with what he did, and why is everybody so pissed???Quote:
Originally Posted by 3fingersalute
Is it possible we are going to agree today...Merry Christmas!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
Calm down, its not like we are going to start taking showers together or somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
I do not think that it was intentional. He was trying to knock the pass away, and did not get him arm out of the way in time. It was not a intentional dirty play. I think that the suspension is correct, otherwise others would try to get away with it. Being our division rivals, they showed it over and over on the news, and my opinion is that it was accidental.
Even if it was on purpose, so what? All's fair in love, war, and football... :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by Camaro80z
Back in my playing daze (ummm...jeez early in the Carter Administration) a good clothesline was just too great to pass up.
That being said I know the danger of the hit and why the NFL is banning them, see also the helmet to helmet hits.
That being said who remembers this line from one of the greatest football movies ever?
"I think I broke his f^*&#%g neck"
You heard they are redoing that movie didn't youQuote:
Originally Posted by Major Kong
I know that, but a cheap shot like that could leave somebody paralyzed or worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good brawl, but not cheapshots.
I haven't heard that...sweet :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
Who is going to be in it?
the guy just stuck his arm out, he wasn't making a play at the ball, it was a cheap shot.
speaking of cheap shots, one bastard that needs to have his suspened is Rodney Harrison. that guys just plain dirty man.
North Dallas Forty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Kong
They are getting Adam Sandler to play Burts role, and I have heard of several other comedians in this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Kong
Longest Yard, the remake
Little bit more than a spained neck...
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Ferguson suffered a concussion and was temporarily paralyzed below the waste when he was hit Sunday. He regained feeling and movement on his way to Bellin Hospital, where he was kept overnight.
The Longest Yard.Quote:
Originally Posted by techs
Most :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
I'm with Ya_there. Time was in football when guys like Dick Butkis, Jo Greene, Alan Page, etc got bonuses for taking people's heads off, not suspensions and fines. If you don't like violence in football, take up tennis or golf. If I am going to pay $100 for a ticket, $50 - $100 in food/beverage, $30 to park, etc I wanna see heads pop off and bodies on the field. I don't need to see fines and suspensions because some guy tackled to hard or made a knife gesture to his throat. And I don't need to see a play twice to know when an official f***ed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
You know I paid another visit to the Patton Tank Museum at Ft. Knox, Ky. recently. They have Gen. Patton's actual football jersey and "helmet" enshrined there (among his other effects). The helmet was miniscule compared to the giant steel domes they were today. I mean, I have baseball caps thicker than that!!!
yay, my beloved Jaguars won.
Agreed. Personally, I miss old school defensive minded football games. Today's rules in the NFL are all geared toward protecting offensive players so we'll see "exciting" high scoring games. Give me smashmouth rough and dirty defensive football anyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
Besides, it would be hypocritical of me to bitch on Darius for that hit, considering Jack Lambert is my all time favorite player - a guy known for punching, kicking, biting, etc who lived for hurting people.
Nah, Harrison got plenty of what he gives back on him when the Pats played the Steelers. I seemed to remember Jerome Bettis tramping on him a couple of times, Dan Kreider pancaking him like a bitch, and Hines Ward drilling him on more than a few blocks. Offensive players can dish it out too. At least Steelers offensive players can. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Budd
I dunno..maybe it's being older and having 12 y.o. twin boys, but seeing some guy almost get paralyzed by some cheap shot doesn't get my rocks off.
I'm all for a good clean hit, but that's just sh!tty ball.
I got no problem with it, pain is a part of the game. The only thing I really see as being "dirty" is cut blocking, at least the way Denver linemen do it. Not only does it make it WAY easier to run block (ie, cheating), it has put several guys on IR over the years, and shortened quite a few careers.
thats my beef with Harrison, he dives at peoples knees. remember Trent Green?
I see nothing wrong with a defensive player diving at an offensive players knees (or any other part of the body for that matter) trying to make a play, or stop their progress. I mean, might as well play 2 hand touch or flag football if we're gonna complain about that.
With an o-line man going at a d-lineman's legs, that's entirely different. Offensive players aren't allowed to tackle defensive players, and the rules for blocking are much different. It's one thing if a OL gets position and leverage on a DL and shoves him down with his upper body, but it's something else entirely when he falls toward the DL's knees trying to knock him down. Especially since OL tend to be the biggest players in the game. A 300+ pounder falling on your knees isn't pretty.
Well, you've progressed greatly since the Roman Forum haven't you KB? https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by KINGofBLEH
Seriously, that's alot of crap!
This is a civilized SPORT! Not a forum for death and decapitation!
That is why there are rules!
I saw the replay many times, and he definitely clotheslined him. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
Precedents have been made, and another will, too.
btw KB
teh Yak doesn't like sports! So, are you flirting with him??https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
Harrison is a dirty bastard, period. he was dirty in SD and hes dirty in NE
teh Yak = teh gay! https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by TripleRLtd
lawn darts are so more GOP https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2007/09/1.gif
But Sgt Stiffy is sort of cute, ya_know? https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by shamus
Seriously, the dude fecked up! He knows it, his teamates know it. The freaking world knows it.
BTW:
Six weeks ago I said Buffalo is the best 3-5 team in the NFL!
Was I right, or wrong?
Hey Snake! See ya in Buffalo in week 16. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif
And A-Rod had every right to slap the ball out of Arayos glove.Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleRLtd
If your team sucks, cheat.
It's all about winning.
Pansy a$$ way to win I say.
Dude...they have Bledsoe... https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by TripleRLtd
Yeah, I have to agree. A-rude showed his true colors that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by shamus
Damned shame, too. I didn't think he was like that. It must be something about the Yanks and/or NY...https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
PS
This is Bledsoe's last gasp, so it better be good. But, teh Jags have the easier schedule and teh tiebreaker. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
And now that the Dolphins dropped one to the Dolphins, that game will be meaningless if the Steelers beat the Ravens this week. And I imagine they will - they want revenge for their only loss this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleRLtd
So Buffalo can beat up on Tommy Maddox all they want - I doubt Ben plays more than a quarter, if things go the way they're going. :cool:
[QUOTE=Cobra X] The only thing I really see as being "dirty" is cut blocking, QUOTE]
Please explain cut blocking, I don't understand the terminology...
A large majority of why I don’t get into sports has nothing to do with sports. It has everything to do with excessive salaries, and strikes because they aren’t being paid enough, BlaaBlaa. KingO said it best when he listed all of the costs associated with viewing a single game…and those are cheap seat prices, we’re talking near a combined $230 for two people for a 3 hour game. That’s ridiculous…for that much money I could get a hotel room near by for the whole day, and a cheap hooker to watch the game with me on the TV, providing they don’t block the game because tickets didn’t sell out. You see where I’m going with that don’t you…I hate what goes on off the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleRLtd
The other reason I hate sports, either your team sucks, almost makes it, or goes all the way one year, but then next year it’s hit or miss…even if they win championships, what can they do to top that next year…
It’s a marketing quagmire, everyone’s got a hand in it but me. Perhaps that explains my disdain. :eek2:
[QUOTE=Ya_know]Cut and chop blocking is when an offensive lineman tries to block the defensive player below the waist. A chop block is a block to the upper to middle thigh (the safer and best low block), while a cut block is targeted at the knee or lower. Both blocks are legal as long as the defender is facing you and you are within the takle box (the imagineary line that is made around the offensive line before the snap to +/- 3 yards of the line of scrimmage), but a chop block is much better and more respected. When I played O line, our coaches motto was " Chop the tree down for the one play, but do not cut short his career".Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra X
Civilized? overgrown men beating the **** out of eachother is civilized?
Please, it is pure bloodlust why we watch, nothing more, nothing less. When I played, whether organized or just pick up tackle games, I became a different person. I was a machine that caused pain, before they could hurt me. On offense it was my job to make sure your ugly mug stayed away from the guy with the ball, and I did what it took to do so. On defense, if you had the ball, I wanted you on the ground hurting. ****, I broke a guys hand, wrist and arm playing flag football. It is a violent sport, don't pass it off as anything else.
As for prices, and wages, you are right on ya_know. My beloved Aggies are going to the cotton bowl, cheapest I could find seats were $75, for a ****ing college game. I have been offered better seats to a Texans game for $25 less???? I would rather watch it all on TV anyway, then I can get the replays for blocks, hits and other things I didn't normally see, all from the comfort of my couch, my own pisser, and a 12 pack for the price of 1 beer at the game.
Jaguars
It is against the rules to hit a man above the shoulders with your arm extended out like that. Why? Because people necks get broken that way. I don't think that type of move has ever been legal in the NFL. This is professional football. A game. Not a gladiator event where they are fighting to the death. It is a game where one team moves the ball down the field past another team. Hard hits? Oh yeah! Definitely,.. as long as they play by the rules. That was just a cheap shot that was made out of frustration on that Jaguar dudes part. Now if anyone knows about hard hitting it's a man by the name of Ronnie Lott. #42. Probably one of the hardest hitting players in all of football. He never did that cheap shot crap. He hit them square and made them land flat on their back. THAT'S what hitting is about,.. not this cheap shot clothesline crap. Personally I think that guy should go to jail for attempted manslaughter.
As far as the money goes,.. they are all just a bunch of overpaid, drug abusing, street thugs in todays NFL. Not like it used to be. No class in todays game which is why I am losing interest more and more every week.
Now look who is supporting censorship... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by WebHead