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Are you serious Geeks?
If so....bummer. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
So, what's up?
no job...broke...facing eviction...i don't like going outside(seriously). it'll get better...just wish it would hurry up.
Are things that tough for computer techs in SE Ohio?
If so,you need to move dude.
But, I wish you the best! How did things get so hard?
so you have a phobia? Called the doc?Quote:
Originally Posted by geeksRus
If you have enough exogenous (originating due to outside events) depression your body can develope endogenous (chemically induced) depression.
So you may want to look into some temporary pharmacological treatment.
There are some new anti-depressants that don't have the side effects of the older ones like Prozac.
Lexapro is one of them.
Sorry to hear of your situation man.
It isnt easy when this is happening thats for sure
I do hope it gets better quickly for you
:thumbs:
How about watching a comedy on DVD? Or maybe take a walk. Those things help me. Also,.. I like watching Rocky,... it's very inspirational. :)
Anyway,... we're all here for ya man. Hang in there,... it will get better. :)
Without falling head first into this one from recent personal experience i found the not wanting to leave the home was a lowered self esteem.
In my case it was from coninued emotional trauma and abuse but I honestly hated going outside because i really felt as sucky as i was told I was. If things are going bad around you, your home is your safety especially when you have noone to turn to for support, like a loving partner or family. You have to build your self confidence up and do it in steps. Write alist of what you want to acheive and actually start it on the other side write a list of all that is going wrong, then write along each one how to fix that particular issue and start doing it and crossing them off as they go. It will take time but each step whether tiny or not is a positive one
and dont think bout the depression that will cure itself as you go
Along with Mayet's excellent advice, I feel the need to caution you about the drugs some give out for agoraphobia geeks. Be real careful with the Xanax type drugs. They say that is for "anxiety", too. But, it is highly addictive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayet
Give the anti-depressants a shot.
And, you'll have to be patient with them. They can take over a month to actually start working. Some people do need them. It's all about brain chemicals. Do some research on the subject of Serotonin and other "brain" chemicals. You have to know what you are dealing with.
And: good luck!
oh sheeit dont touch the anti depressents. The whole world is on bandaids it seems.. Oh dear doc I have been feeling a little down lately...welll here you go, heres your happy pill and one more load of money into some pharmaceutical companies pocket. Great band aid not.....drugs aren't the answer, a walk in the park listening to the birds or looking at the patterns in the clouds, the ducks on a river, ants crawling up a drainpipe. Thats a great out not pills. Are oyu getting the idea of just how much I hate the fact that every doc in the world it seems is prescribing more and more anti depressants to people just to cope with life? Looks at the worldwide stats of prescribing to teens diagnosed with depression. Now come on can anyone see a bleak and snowballing future from this other than me?
Although I absolutely agree with you on the outragioius prices of drugs and doctors, sometimes, some people, DO need an anti-depressant. It's all about the chemicals. You yourself talked about a certain "ex" who became different when he was off his meds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayet
That being said, they aren't and should not be for general consumption. But you're right, Docs give anything to anyone anymore. Remember the Stones and "Mother's Little Helper"? How about the book: "Valley of the Dolls"? https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
The extremes make you wonder about the help that Doctors can give. That is too bad, too.
Do I see a bleak and snowballing future from this?
You're damn right I do.
It's sort of like ADD. My oldest girl suffers from that, and is now on meds, and they are helping her. But now, every doc everywhere gives that crap to any kid with an attitude. THAT is fecked up!!
thanx everyone...i know my problems are small and petty compared to some others here ( you know who you are). i'll get over it...i hit these bumps on a regular basis it seems...not sure why. guys usually hold this crap in thinkin it isnt manly to talk about. thot i'd let it out and see if it helped. again thanx for lissenin to me snivel. :bor:
Its tough. I have had friends help pull me through. A few years ago, when I was about to eat a bullet, one of my good friends told me something that stuck.
"No matter how bad I feel, or how bad things get, there are people out there that are worse than me. Yet every day they survive."
Maybe it was me, maybe it was what he said, but that usually helps get me out of a low....that and a good long walk or workout.
Everyone is different, but one thing I can say, is unless your Doc. can prove to you that your brain is wired different...stay away from the drugs.
A lot of depressions are caused by environment but other things may trigger it. I have found that the very food I eat affects my moods. When i eat light, and eat healthy I feel better physically and emotionally. Gone are the days that I would get depressed and hit Micky Dees and the local liquir store.
Talking it out helps too, if you have a good ear. Call a friend, or church member or family and hash out whats on your mind. Hell, hop online if need be and Instant Message a bud...
Sorry geeks, but I'm not buying that.Quote:
Originally Posted by geeksRus
There is NOTHING manly about trying not to feel depressed!!
If this is a "regular" occurance, then you need to talk to someone who can help. Yeah, we here can help a little bit because we are "friends", but not as much as this seems to call for.
So: have you talked to a real Doctor about this?
..and please don't clam up and try to act tough and self reliant right now. Because that can be a big mistake. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif
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Hey Lar! https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gif
Hey Geeks,
I could be way off here, but you are just a few hours south of me. Go to a tanning salon. Find the old, slow beds, the ones that cook you slowly. This time of year, with the lack of sunshine causes a depression. Something with Vitamin D or something. I started cooking myself 3 times a week, last month. First time in a long while I haven't got the winter blues. Being 20 minutes east of Cleveland, the sun rarely shines this time of year.
If that doesn't work, get a $50.00 woman, a 12 pack of beer, and hope you're one of the lucky ones to get a 4 hour erection from the little blue pill....
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Depression? Mmmm good question, I know exactly where you are coming from at the moment, wife leaving, getting evicted and having to possibly go bankrupt over the next few months unless something changes real quick.
I've had some bad moments of depression about it all, and life in general (which was pants before the above started), however someone here has said it all, no matter how low you get or how many times you get knocked down, there is always someone worse off than you getting by day to day.
When I got really bad just recently I researched into the Tsunami disaster, and reading some of the hardship there helped me realise that things are bad, but not as bad as the problems of others. I also realised that yep things are crap at the moment, and I am now as low as I can go, so things will only get better from this point on. One positive about wife leaving? February is a cheap month this year as I have no valentine to buy for nor do I have to spend out for her birthday....
Just remember that bottling up what you're feeling is never a good idea, it cost me my marriage and my friends over the years. Talking is good. I'm getting some counselling and have been following an Tony Robbins CD program, which is helping. Trouble is his program relies a lot on your own self-motivation to change things, which ironically is one of the problems I have when down, being motivated to change things.
You'll get there, just remember to keep your eyes wide open for that open door, they're not all closed and locked shut! :thumbs2:
So your first course of action, rent your funniest DVD and watch it, then go out and volunteer yourself at your local soup kitchen, 1. it'll get you out and 2. you will feel better for helping others worse off, and 3. it'll motivate you to improve yourself, so you don't get that low.
Stay strong dude! :thumbs:
PLEEEEAAASE! Don't feel sorry for him! This is America, the land of opportunity....don't forget that. Anyone, even illegal aliens can get jobs here. I say squash the pride and go get the first job you can find. McD's, or other fastfood...they are always hiring. Go to a labor ready service.... Or even a dishwasher or custodian.
If you don't have a job then you don't want one, it's that simple.
Freaking liberals!
Thank god there are at least some people out there that care :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by opiate
I care enough to express my opinion! :flame:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
It's important to have a job that matters. That's why I manually masturbate caged animals for the purposes of artificial insemination.
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Originally Posted by meatwad
Does it pay well?
I am quite experienced at the task..Just ask my ex husbands :devil: :devil:
Those of us down here on earth tend to have these things called, "emotions". Unfortunately depression is one of these "emotions" and us humans experience this particular emotion from time to time. But I guess you wouldn't know about that because you are so perfect with your McDonalds job.Quote:
Originally Posted by opiate
Somebody's got to build my Big Mac the way I want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WebHead
I worked at a McDonald's for almost two years. They let me work the drive thru once and we didn't have any customers so I was bored. We were located in a strip mall parking lot so there were a lot of people walking past outside. I pretended I was announcing a baseball game over the drive thru speaker. That got boring after awhile so I started heckling people as they walked by. That didn't last long and they never let me work the drive thru again after that...
Have you ever seen a 10 gallong plastic bag filled with milk shake cream explode? I have and let me tell you it's a beautiful site. Pain in the butt to clean up, but definitely worth it the first couple times. Shuffleboard with the frozen meat patties was also fun.
Ever gotten fries or a drink that was missing the monopoly game piece sticker off the front? Ever wonder why? :devil:
Working under the arches rules!!
Funny ima.
And, opiate: what an https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/02/1.gif...
You're right, Geeks, it will get better!
That Soup Kitchen idea is awfully good for the reasons stated.
Well I'm sure Opiate will be happy to make your burger. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by meatwad
That's probably at least half the problem. I (for one) am glad that you've taken the big leap of faith and opened up.Quote:
Originally Posted by geeksRus
So, has it helped?Quote:
Originally Posted by geeksRus
My suggestion is to get some exercise. I find that just getting the blood flowing is a help. If you can do something more on the aerobic side, that will get some endorphins going and those are always a help.
btw, Happy Valentines Day! :heart:
Totally agreed! Sometimes when I got a case of the Mondays, I just get me some 'bucks (grande mocha, no whip) and take a little walk. Getting the blood going is probably the best thing one can do to shake the blues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green_Eyed
That's sweet Green_Eyed. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2006/04/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Green_Eyed
Rus - I have been where you are several times. I have dealt with self-esteem issues most of my adult life. I have found that when I have lost confidence in myself due to my circumstances at the time, it can be a challenge to regain that self-esteem and get out of each depressive cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by geeksRus
All of the options given here are good suggestions. May I offer a few more things for you to consider as you get through this tough time?
1. Set personal and professional goals. You have to repair the negative emotions you are feeling due to what you percieve to be recent shortcomings in your life. You can begin to do this by setting small goals to achieve and then working to achieve them. Some examples of these goals might be:
- Lose 10 pounds
- Read a book (that you wouldn't normally read)
- Visit a friend or relative you haven't seen in a long time
- Volunteer your time to a worthy cause (soup kitchen, homeless shelter, etc.)
- Voluteer to read to visit terminally ill children at the local hospital (that should really help you feel better about your situation!)
2. Don't let the job search get you down. Your job hunt IS your job now. You should pursue it with the same energy that you would put into it if it was your dream job. Then you will truly start to see results.
3. Transcend your circumstances. You must always keep in mind the larger goals for your life. These goals can include (for example): "What do I want to accomplish professionally before I retire?" "What kind of example do I want to set for my children?" "What kind of a person do I want other people to think of me as?" This is not always easy to do right away. If you are having trouble with setting big goals, start off by picking one area of your life that you excel at above all others and set a goal for that area of your life. Then always keep your eyes on that goal(s) and starting thinking about how you can use each circumstance in your life to achieving the goal(s).
4. Diversions. Think about things that you could do during those tough times when the depression seems to have you against the ropes and you fear that it will not end. You need to be able to get your mind off the depression and onto something productive. Taking a walk, going out for a drive, rearrange your house, go to the library, etc. These are all things you could plan out ahead of time to do when you are really feeling down, and for little to no $$.
Anti-depressants are an option too. Fortunately, I have not had to resort to them to get myself out of depression cycles.
Whatever you decide to do, remember you always have a support network you can talk to here at WD.