Where's my 25 gig?

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February 9th, 2005, 02:09 PM
zz28

Where's my 25 gig?

New built Media Center PC. XP Media Center Edition 2005 SP2. 300 Gig SATA HD. Windows only shows 275 Gig.
Asus P4P800-VM MOBO. ALL NEW.

Have done a Google on it and have found a varying on answers. I thought I would go to some authorities (Windrivers). :)

Please tell me what to do to get this right.

Thanks

zz
February 9th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Richard1

Have you tried updating your bios? When it's all said and done, I'm pretty sure you will need to reformat your hard drive to get those 25 gigs back.
February 9th, 2005, 02:39 PM
TechZ

Just FYI, http://internal.vusd.solanocoe.k12.c...tm#MEASUREMENT

My 120 formats as a 112. So basically the 300 (when taking 1 giabyte as 1000 Megabyts) is a 275 Gigabyte Hard Disk (when taking 1 giabyte as 1024 Megabytss)

Hard Disk manufacturers continue to use this naming system.
February 9th, 2005, 02:42 PM
TechZ

More on this:

http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/di...y_measure.html

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/geom/formatBinary-c.html

http://www.techzonez.com/forums/arch...hp/t-7243.html

Various Drive Sizes and their Binary and Decimal Capacities

Drive Size--------Approximate--------Decimal Capacity--------Approx Binary Capacity
in GB--------------Total Bytes------(bytes/1,000,000,000)-----(bytes/1,073,724,841)
10 GB-------------10,000,000,000------------10 GB------------------------9.31 GB
20 GB-------------20,000,000,000------------20 GB------------------------18.63 GB
30 GB-------------30,000,000,000------------30 GB------------------------27.94 GB
40 GB-------------40,000,000,000------------40 GB------------------------37.25 GB
60 GB-------------60,000,000,000------------60 GB------------------------55.88 GB
80 GB-------------80,000,000,000------------80 GB------------------------74.51 GB
100 GB-----------100,000,000,000-----------100 GB------------------------93.13 GB
120 GB-----------120,000,000,000-----------120 GB-----------------------111.76 GB
160 GB-----------160,000,000,000-----------160 GB-----------------------149.01 GB
180 GB-----------180,000,000,000-----------180 GB-----------------------167.64 GB
200 GB-----------200,000,000,000-----------200 GB-----------------------186.26 GB
250 GB-----------250,000,000,000-----------250 GB-----------------------232.83 GB
February 9th, 2005, 02:48 PM
zz28

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechZ

Just FYI, http://internal.vusd.solanocoe.k12.c...tm#MEASUREMENT

My 120 formats as a 112. So basically the 300 (when taking 1 giabyte as 1000 Megabyts) is a 275 Gigabyte Hard Disk (when taking 1 giabyte as 1024 Megabytss)

Hard Disk manufacturers continue to use this naming system.

What a rip off! Let's see, I paid about 160 buck for this hard drive. That comes to $0.53 per gigabyte. $0.53X25=$13.25. I want a refund!!!
So instead of missing space, I actually have a 275 Gig drive. Manufacuturers need to change this. They are misleading people!!!

Thanks Guys!
February 9th, 2005, 03:01 PM
MobilePCPhysician

The drive is labeled 300 gig, which it is, unformatted. Formatting in ntfs takes up considerably more space than fat32.
February 9th, 2005, 03:08 PM
TechZ

Its been this way always. Manufacturers arent really ripping us off, read the fine print at the bottom, it always says they assume 1000 bytes = 1 MegaByte,etc.
February 9th, 2005, 03:42 PM
zz28

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechZ

Its been this way always. Manufacturers arent really ripping us off, read the fine print at the bottom, it always says they assume 1000 bytes = 1 MegaByte,etc.

Guess I won't be getting that $13.25 refund then...
February 9th, 2005, 04:17 PM
TechZ

hehe no. Its alright 275GB is enuff! Well unless u do video editing.
February 9th, 2005, 06:00 PM
Ya_know

Quote:

Originally Posted by zz28

What a rip off! Let's see, I paid about 160 buck for this hard drive. That comes to $0.53 per gigabyte. $0.53X25=$13.25. I want a refund!!!
So instead of missing space, I actually have a 275 Gig drive. Manufacuturers need to change this. They are misleading people!!!

Thanks Guys!

What are you bitching about? I remember when 8 gigs was $200, and everyone wanted to know why they couldn't format and use all 8. Go back a few years before that, it was like $600 a Gig, and at bottleneck speeds. You’re complaining about 53 cents a gig…live with it! :thumbs:
February 9th, 2005, 06:01 PM
the boss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard1

Have you tried updating your bios? When it's all said and done, I'm pretty sure you will need to reformat your hard drive to get those 25 gigs back.

Drive Size--------Approximate--------Decimal Capacity--------Approx Binary Capacity
in GB--------------Total Bytes------(bytes/1,000,000,000)-----(bytes/1,073,724,841)
10 GB-------------10,000,000,000------------10 GB------------------------9.31 GB
20 GB-------------20,000,000,000------------20 GB------------------------18.63 GB
30 GB-------------30,000,000,000------------30 GB------------------------27.94 GB
40 GB-------------40,000,000,000------------40 GB------------------------37.25 GB
60 GB-------------60,000,000,000------------60 GB------------------------55.88 GB
80 GB-------------80,000,000,000------------80 GB------------------------74.51 GB
100 GB-----------100,000,000,000-----------100 GB------------------------93.13 GB
120 GB-----------120,000,000,000-----------120 GB-----------------------111.76 GB
160 GB-----------160,000,000,000-----------160 GB-----------------------149.01 GB
180 GB-----------180,000,000,000-----------180 GB-----------------------167.64 GB
200 GB-----------200,000,000,000-----------200 GB-----------------------186.26 GB
250 GB-----------250,000,000,000-----------250 GB-----------------------232.83 GB
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brain in gear richard ,otherwise do a corse on computer maintainance/repair,

there again , stick to your day job as managing editer
February 9th, 2005, 08:02 PM
zz28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ya_know

What are you bitching about? I remember when 8 gigs was $200, and everyone wanted to know why they couldn't format and use all 8. Go back a few years before that, it was like $600 a Gig, and at bottleneck speeds. You’re complaining about 53 cents a gig…live with it! :thumbs:

To Ya_Know...

I was joking about the price.I am fully aware of how inexpensive PC parts are nowadays. I was trying to show that I have a since of humor.
February 9th, 2005, 08:12 PM
TripleRLtd

Quote:

Originally Posted by zz28

To Ya_Know...

I was joking about the price.I am fully aware of how inexpensive PC parts are nowadays. I was trying to show that I have a since of humor.

He knows, hence the :thumbsup: smiley. He was just showing how old he is. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

PS
Damn boss...https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
February 10th, 2005, 08:19 AM
Ya_know

Quote:

Originally Posted by zz28

To Ya_Know...

I was joking about the price.I am fully aware of how inexpensive PC parts are nowadays. I was trying to show that I have a since of humor.

Well, since you have a since of humor, you understand what I was trying to say... :thumbs:
February 10th, 2005, 08:28 AM
the boss

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

He knows, hence the :thumbsup: smiley. He was just showing how old he is. https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

PS
Damn boss...https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

but correct , telling someone to upgrade there Bios , and to do a re-format?

obviously "Richard 1" is not qualified in those matters , and should stick to his day job , rather than giving out false/inacurate information.
February 10th, 2005, 08:36 AM
TripleRLtd

Quote:

Originally Posted by the boss

but correct , telling someone to upgrade there Bios , and to do a re-format?

obviously "Richard 1" is not qualified in those matters , and should stick to his day job , rather than giving out false/inacurate information.

I said "Damn, boss". I didn't say you were wrong. I was just surprised by the...let's just say, the tone of the message...https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
February 10th, 2005, 08:40 AM
the boss

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleRLtd

I said "Damn, boss". I didn't say you were wrong. I was just surprised by the...let's just say, the tone of the message...https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif

solly ,,,

but a truthful reply?

tis boring around here recently , but richard makes up the laughs ,

and the sad thing is that zz28 was reading the reply , and it came from an "administrator" (senior) , and might have taken the word of a "experienced" person , but is the "administrator/senior mod" qualified to give the correct info? or is he a "pen pusher".

time will tell
February 10th, 2005, 12:24 PM
zz28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ya_know

Well, since you have a since of humor, you understand what I was trying to say... :thumbs:

Ya_Know:

Since this has gone on for too long, I will stop this nonsince :thumbs2:

LOL...I stand corrected on the sinces...
February 10th, 2005, 12:46 PM
Ya_know

Quote:

Originally Posted by zz28

Ya_Know:

Since this has gone on for too long, I will stop this nonsince :thumbs2:

LOL...I stand corrected on the sinces...

:grin: Now you got it! :grin:
February 10th, 2005, 04:20 PM
Damned Angel

Ok folks I think you got this one figured out. Time to wrap this up before someone gets themselves banned.
February 11th, 2005, 09:20 AM
Richard1

Hello All,
I am far from perfect and I regret having given someone information that wasn't accurate, so let me apologize to zz28.

I am going to close this thread now, there seems to be a couple of these threads covering the same topic.