New PC Build Shutting down after ~30sec.

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February 9th, 2005, 11:26 PM
Auman

New PC Build Shutting down after ~30sec.

Hello, I just built a new PC and every time I go to boot it up to get into my BIOS, etc, because I want to install windows. But everytime I boot it up, it only lasts about 30sec, then the time goes down every time I boot it up after that. I don't know what could be causing this, the only thing I could think of would be the processor over heating, but I have a HSF so it shouldn't do that. Anyways, my PC specs are down below, please get back to me with any help, thanks.

Specs:

Broadway case: 500W PSU w/ 2x 80mm fans 1x 120mm fan and airduct.
Pentium 4 3.0GHz socket: LGA775
Albatron PX915P Pro with 800FSB
nVidia XFX GeForce 6600 256MB
1.5 GB of RAM
WD Cavalier 200GB HDD

Thanks.
Auman
February 10th, 2005, 02:35 AM
TechZ

Check that the HS is properly installed
Check that all the fans are working
How far in 30sec does it reach before it Shutsdown.
Boot into BIOS and check the temps.
February 10th, 2005, 06:18 AM
NooNoo

Oh and welcome to Windrivers Auman

It could also be a faulty power supply if none of the other suggestions prove to be the cause.
February 10th, 2005, 04:08 PM
Auman

Quote:

Originally Posted by NooNoo

Oh and welcome to Windrivers Auman

It could also be a faulty power supply if none of the other suggestions prove to be the cause.

Thanks for the replys guy, I'm sorry I didn't post this before, but it's not a faulty PSU because I tested an old one in the new PC and it did the same. Also the RAM is 2x ULTRA PC3200 DDR400 w/ memory coolers, and 1x SimpleTech PC2700 DDR333. I don't have thermal paste(I don't think, I'm new at building PCs), but how can I tell if the HSF isn't installed properly? And I have an LCD Temp display, and the processor was reading about 25.5 degrees celcius on bootup, is that hot? And all my fans are working because I booted w/o a side panel to see if the HSF was working, and it was...

Thanks,
Auman
February 10th, 2005, 04:30 PM
TripleRLtd

That temp is not too hot. You should try this:
Disconnect all drives and remove all cards except for one ram module and the video card. Boot it up and enter bios and view the temp. See if it runs and view the temp.
Check the m/b for swollen busted capacitors, too.
Let us know what happens.
February 10th, 2005, 06:36 PM
slavedriver

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auman

Thanks for the replys guy, I'm sorry I didn't post this before, but it's not a faulty PSU because I tested an old one in the new PC and it did the same. Also the RAM is 2x ULTRA PC3200 DDR400 w/ memory coolers, and 1x SimpleTech PC2700 DDR333. I don't have thermal paste(I don't think, I'm new at building PCs), but how can I tell if the HSF isn't installed properly? And I have an LCD Temp display, and the processor was reading about 25.5 degrees celcius on bootup, is that hot? And all my fans are working because I booted w/o a side panel to see if the HSF was working, and it was...

Thanks,
Auman

If there is no thermal paste between the HSF and CPU then your temps will rise quick and shut the machine down. your manual tells you how to install the CPU-HSF properly give that a try.
February 10th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Auman

Quote:

Originally Posted by slavedriver

If there is no thermal paste between the HSF and CPU then your temps will rise quick and shut the machine down. your manual tells you how to install the CPU-HSF properly give that a try.

If I recall on the bottom of my HSF was a white pad, perhaps that is the new built in thermal paste? I will take a picture and get back to you.
February 10th, 2005, 07:57 PM
slavedriver

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auman

If I recall on the bottom of my HSF was a white pad, perhaps that is the new built in thermal paste? I will take a picture and get back to you.

Is it a stalk Intel Fan if it is you probably peel the a strip off and the thermal paste is under that. my prefs' is use artech silver.
February 11th, 2005, 01:03 PM
NooNoo

Auman, if you had a retail chip, then there is no strip to peel off.

Use of thermal paste requires some skill in putting it on, hence the pads on retail hsf.

25C says you have the thermal pad and the hsf is working fine. Follow tripleR suggestions first. This could be a ram stick or a video card causing the problem.
February 11th, 2005, 01:12 PM
Auman

Quote:

Originally Posted by NooNoo

Follow tripleR suggestions first. This could be a ram stick or a video card causing the problem.

This isn't a RAM problem, because I've tried each sticks of RAM. And it's not my graphics card because I get a picture. And in order to get a picture on your monitor, your graphics card, and RAM has to work.
February 11th, 2005, 01:21 PM
TripleRLtd

The purpose of removing all connections and extra cards is to eliminate any possible cause of trouble they may add. In other words, when you are down to nothing but the video and one stick of ram, all other components are effectively out of the equation when it comes to finding the cause of the problem. So, if you then still have the problem, and it only stays on for 30 seconds, then it's either the m/b, cpu, the gpu itself, or the ram. So then you swap the ram and the video card, and if it still happens, then you are down to either the m/b or cpu.
Do you understand?
February 11th, 2005, 01:29 PM
Auman

Yeah I understand. I just have to wait until I can get out to the store and get me some thermal paste. And then I will try it.
February 11th, 2005, 02:27 PM
RejectionMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auman

Thanks for the replys guy, I'm sorry I didn't post this before, but it's not a faulty PSU because I tested an old one in the new PC and it did the same. Also the RAM is 2x ULTRA PC3200 DDR400 w/ memory coolers, and 1x SimpleTech PC2700 DDR333. I don't have thermal paste(I don't think, I'm new at building PCs), but how can I tell if the HSF isn't installed properly? And I have an LCD Temp display, and the processor was reading about 25.5 degrees celcius on bootup, is that hot? And all my fans are working because I booted w/o a side panel to see if the HSF was working, and it was...

Thanks,
Auman

your using these sticks one at a time right (test individualy)?

typicaly a dual channel bard will only support 1,2,or 4 sticks of RAM, additionaly in dual channel configuration all sticks must be of the same model or instalbility will result, mixxing is not supported.

MSI states that: "using 3 modules, or mixing manufactures may damage the system board"
February 11th, 2005, 02:36 PM
Auman

Quote:

Originally Posted by RejectionMan

your using these sticks one at a time right (test individualy)?

typicaly a dual channel bard will only support 1,2,or 4 sticks of RAM, additionaly in dual channel configuration all sticks must be of the same model or instalbility will result, mixxing is not supported.

MSI states that: "using 3 modules, or mixing manufactures may damage the system board"

That is only with old MBs that you usually can't mix the manufacturer. Besides I have tested each RAM, and it does the same thing. And like I said before, it's not my RAM or graphics card because I get a piture on my monitor.
February 11th, 2005, 03:22 PM
TechZ

Is your Graphics card running hot? It might be showing a pic, but it could be overheating. Cant think of anything else. Sorry.

And for Dual Channel, you do need to stick with same stick, exactly, else there will be problems, its nothing to do with old MB's.
February 13th, 2005, 02:11 AM
Auman

The problem has been fixed. All I needed was to get some good Thermal Paste because my stock Thermal Pad didn't exactly work up to specifications :rolleyes:

Just wanted to say thanks for all your help, I really appreciated it.

Now does anyone know why I can't get my PC to boot from the CD-ROM? Because when I'm in BIOS I change it so the PC will boot from CDROM 1st, but then when it reboots, it doesn't load anything up, so I'm confused.

Thanks,
Auman
February 13th, 2005, 08:20 AM
NooNoo

Do you have the cdrom model number?
Exactly how is it connected? Is it secondary master?
February 13th, 2005, 12:09 PM
Auman

Quote:

Originally Posted by NooNoo

Do you have the cdrom model number?
Exactly how is it connected? Is it secondary master?

Actually I don't know about the secondary or master, all I know is that I can get it to boot from the XP CD and start to load Windows, but it stops because now it doesn't find a HDD.
February 13th, 2005, 02:01 PM
NooNoo

OK... in the bios setup is the primary and secondary masters and slaves all set to auto?

Time to look at your build and tell us what ide device you put on which channel and how they were jumpered.
February 13th, 2005, 02:32 PM
TripleRLtd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auman

The problem has been fixed. All I needed was to get some good Thermal Paste because my stock Thermal Pad didn't exactly work up to specifications :rolleyes:

So, the pc booted up at 25 celsius and overheated within 30 seconds, and the hsf had a thermal pad? Strange. But Daffy's original reply sure sounds on the mark now:

Quote:

Stabbing at this the HSF is not properly installed...

About the hdd. Recheck your connections, and then tell us if the bios sees the drive. Make sure it does before you run XP setup.
The drive is also over 137 gigs, so what version of XP are you trying to install?