I'll help you get to the gym if you need it.https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2007/09/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2007/09/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Green_Eyed
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I'll help you get to the gym if you need it.https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2007/09/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2007/09/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Green_Eyed
I think iceman looks just like his avatar... :wave:
That sounds familiar...https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
You're on! My plan is to get up at 5 AM so that I can get in about an hour of easy exercise and still be at work by 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
So, what can you do to help? Maybe you can PM me at 9 (PST) and tell me to get off the Interent and go to sleep! hehehe
I think iceman looks just like his avatar...
He does? Well ain't he a little cutie!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_Know
No Problem. I get up at 6AM EST to ride bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green_Eyed
Well ain't he a little cutie!http://forums.windrivers.com/images/smilies/kissy.gif
I don't look like my avatar
I look JUST like my avatar! (That's why I chose it. How could I pass up such an uncanny likeness?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleetus
Hmmm... I had the same reasoning...Quote:
Originally Posted by Green_Eyed
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Originally Posted by Ya_know
Pass on the roaches........I'll leave that to some other protein eating fool...but the hot wax...why yes...Yes i think I would :devil: :devil:
This thread is worthless without pics.https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Mayet
And suddenly were in the NSFW areahttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Well....I took a house vote and the kids decided it would scare them if I was naked
so I decided i would get Krystal to do the hot wax bit
and my two bits
major kong should have been made a mod years before the list ever got to tripler....
I'd vote for Krystal! Is she legal age yet??? :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Mayet
Yup..she is 18 now ..I took her out for her 18th but neither of us are drinkers so it was kinda...flat.....
So I took her to the casino the next day and introduced her to the blackjack tables.... trouble was she liked the slot machines
ya just can't win on those things...least with BJ ya got a chance....
you look like a posessed doll?Quote:
Originally Posted by Green_Eyed
Sorry Mayet, i just had to.
You can send her my way ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayet
Only if you can card count to 5 decks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayet
6 deck shoes...yeah...not
but that only really comes into it on the last deal or so of the deck and the way they do it now narrows that chance down to......
I am a posessed doll, honey. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Khazad
Ok,.. so you DO know I'm still single right? And now that she's legal,.. well... Hmmm? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mayet
adept would be a great mod, but I don't see that happening.
other than that, it doesn't really matter to me, although I must grin to myself when I see a few people who were joining in the uproar last night mentioned as being new possible mods...........?? ¿¿ ??
Don't infer so vaguely, just come right out and make you beef...otherwise, you’re not making your point clear…Quote:
Originally Posted by 3fingersalute
If a mod is a female, then she will garner respect from males due to her sex. She is free to post her opinions, beliefs, etc, without much rebellion from the mostly male posters here. She would be free to deliver mod duties without much objection due to her sex.
If a male member here wants to be a mod, and have respect from day one, then they must be unknown, and also not get involved in the politics section, the daily dribble, or post their beliefs, and or opinions on controversial subjects.
The only current member who I could possibly nominate at this point is Adept.
Anyone could be a mod, just give them a new identity.
I somewhat agree on most of your points, but you obviously don't recall Adept has a profound opinion about many different subjects, and has pontificated as much as any of us, hell more so than some of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by MobilePCPhysician
The point I agree with, as a moderator you can't play in the games which typically have sides that will sponsor favoritism. It’s ok though to have an opinion, and you should be wiling to explore that opinion openly, but at a pace which reflects an open respect to another’s opposing belief. I think that is where the crucial effort is most needed from a moderator.
In that respect, I think Adept has produced a level of objectivity often enough to have my respect. But then, I typically see more eye to eye with his somewhat more conservative beliefs…so perhaps I too am picking sides, and not seeing his objectivity accurately.
As far as a woman moderator having an edge over the male members, I can see your point, but strongly disagree. In fact, NooNoo has had to work harder as a moderator, possibly because the community knows she is female…think about that…
Adept has proven repeatedly that he can be objective even when he dislikes a person or disagrees with what they are saying.
This is why, were I granted votes, I would vote for both Adept and Mayet.
I can't believe anybody would seriously consider Ya_Know for moderator. If I had a vote against, I would vote against Ya_Know.
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Originally Posted by Ya_know
As far as adept goes, he has proven over the years that he is a good and decent man. That right there, in this world, is alot. Everyone has opinions, everyone disagrees, but not everyone has a good and decent heart and belief and fight in them. That, I for one have seen, he has displayed remarkably since I've known him. And, with all the attacks on his charachter and beliefs, it is simply amazing the man is still with us. THAT says alot. And, perusing the archives gives one an even greater respect for the man. That is how I learned more about ILTU as well.
And, on the subject of women as mods, Mobile has some good points as do you. This here in particular:
You can substitute the word female with the word of your choice, and you can have many different mods over the years who may be here, or have come and gone. This is not an easy job for anyone. Heck, it wasn't easy before with the hours spent at the job. And, make no mistake, it IS a job when you get right down to it. And, again, it is not easy.Quote:
In fact, NooNoo has had to work harder as a moderator, possibly because the community knows she is female…think about that
A point on the male female thing...
Us females around here hold our own......I have been a chat mod for quite a while now and find I get just as much respect as the guys do.
NooNoo and I both have different ways of approaching stuff and there has been occasions where i have had to prove myself...but that may be because I have a pretty light hearted approach to life at the best of times and usually only get real serious when its required to deal with an idiot in chat...
The people I find do take a step back are the newbies or guests in chat because everyone here pretty well knows me. I have the same sick sense of weird humour that most of the guy here have and although there is times when people push the boundaries I always find a way to laugh it off and change the ambience.....
noonoo gains her respect not because of her sex but in spite of it. She knows more than most of the blokes all put together in one hairy sweating pile.......
and the other ladies here like PGG and amy and sunshine are all highly respected and not looked at as being helpless females unable to do a thing cept stand there and go..oooh I broke a nail.......no way can i change out this motherboard...................
They all gain the respect of the guys for being themselves..................
May,
You missed my point. My bad for not explaining myself well enough. Females are given respect upfront. Guys don't want to be rude, mean to a female at first. Call it upbringing. A guy dealing with another guy, it's a "territorial" thing, a big dog mentality, so to speak. See Ya_ Know for further reference.
You, and the other ladies here have more than proven yourselves. Especially Noo. I never said you were helpless females.
Mayet Quote:"They all gain the respect of the guys for being themselves"
Yes, you are right, but pictures help a whole lot too.https://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gifhttps://forums.windrivers.com/images.../2005/03/1.gif
Hey May, what happened to the guy from your site with the Calvin & Hobbes avatar?
In one way I see your point....the board is pretty starved of female company and you guys do take real good care of the few you have. But having said that, we are all the sort of females that do hold our own on a tech board.
What if it was a bubblehead logging in though...Remember inferno..we all..well some of us thought that was a female for a long time.....and even after that I wasn't so sure........and Inferno at that time didn't garner any respect from the guys aound here and probably less from me......man they had some hilarious blasted posts though...didn't they but I think everyone was pretty blunt with opinions on them and their posts.....rightly so iffin you ask me :devil:
i reakon it's a bit person related and how the personalities come out in posts and first impressions....
and Clavin and Hobbes..AKA Spaceman Spiff....AKA Steve Porter is still around on various forums I attend
I will be getting a new forum up online pretty soonly of my ownsomes but meanwhile I am getting Krystals forum up and running and adminning hers while showing her the how to's and how not to's plus just looking after the business sites that I did take with me when I left hubby........
krystals forum is growing http://www.rejectz.com/forums
pretty well says what it means..... but its her choice and her ideas...I just get to spend the night skinning it for her tonight while she is out partying..in her colours mind you too red and black which i hate working with...
I bought a whole heaps of domains a year or so ago that have just come into their own so that's my next commercial venture as well as looking at a tech business to buy at the moment for Krystal and myself to run.....
You obviously don't remember the tantrum over the deleted threads; that grudge lasted for probably as long as 4 months, Adept insulted everyone associated, me included. So, that said, he and I have something in common, we both have human characteristics. And Mayet has ripped up Trip a thousand times harder than anyone in the forum, and at times perhaps rightly so. However he's a new mod, so that should represent a conflict now as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayward Clam
As far as you not holding me in high regard, well, it confirms one thing I already knew...you’re still hurt about the breakup, and resent me… j/k. Tell me specifically why you think I shouldn’t be nominated. I don’t mean, why you, the clam, wouldn’t vote for me, but why anyone thinking it’s a viable thing should consider otherwise. I’m game for airing out the laundry…you too 3 fingers…oh, and me having been banned can’t be used, precedence has already been set that that doesn’t matter when being positioned as a Mod.
I respect the broads here at WD cause them sweet cake chicks dig the Cleetus so much
I don't pick favorites, I don't think any of the nominations are mod material....but that's just me.
I like everyone nominated in one way or another but just don't think any of them would be good mod material.
here's my thought. a good mod stays out of the fray and remains objective. I can't EVER remember Noo being involved PUBLICLY in any flame wars / battles and before the steam room suwolo didn't either
aside from major kong, everyone nominated fails that test. heck I don't know how ya_know could even exist as a mod here. The major portion of his online personality is that of a button pusher, often times that is how he provokes discussion. that is not acceptable behavior for a mod IMO
the other big factor is availability and aside from Ya_know I haven't seen any of the others here all that much lately (of course they could be lurking) Major Kong sometimes goes a week or two at a time without visiting due to work....probably not the most ideal situation as far as availability.
To answer why I would vote against Ya_K, I can refer to what I said about Trip.
Trip: Intelligent and means well, but no customer service skills, and will inspire no confidence in the moderation team.
Ya_Know: More or less as above, except more intelligent, and I have never been able to bring myself to believe that he means well.
I'll play along...Quote:
Originally Posted by kato2274
It was impossible for any of us in the list to ever assume that we would be selected as a mod, , I think it caught everyone by surprise. I certainly wasn’t asking for it, got nominated early, and thought, what the hell, it’s not like I don’t like being here. But going back to the lack of assumption, you call me a button pusher, a “thought” provoker, and, perhaps an instigator, although you didn’t actually say all of that. You also claim that NooNoo personifies the objective presence of a good Mod. Now answer me this, of she and the rest of us in the list, how many are actually mods? Just her. How many of us knew that any of our behavior would be “glossed” over in determining whether we could be mod material? I know I didn’t. But for clarity of all of that, if I knew I was on the block, I wouldn’t change who I am, but perhaps my delivery would show more tact.
Going more on that “glossing”, what do those of you that disagree with my nomination hold against me? Air it out. Please don’t be general, go for specifics…if it has anything to do with my sometimes vocal conservative views, how is any of that relevant to my potential ability as a Mod? I mean, if I get in with moding OS’s, there will never be a political debate there. And, why shouldn’t a moderator be allowed his personal beliefs, and be allowed to express that just the same as anyone else?
Or is it because I may have singled one of you out for something, and you have yet to forgive me? I know I slammed Clam something like 3 years ago, and he has NEVER let up on it. I don’t even remember what it was, it was 3 YEARS ago, but it has stuck with us for a very long time, and it shows when he pops in and slams me (although in his credit, with exception to this, he hasn’t done that in several months).
My simple point of all of this. If I were given the chance to mod, I wouldn’t be the same personality in those duties…make sense?
You have got to be kidding me.
Are you telling me, you could go be a mod in another part of the forum as well as no longer come back here and start crap with me, iceman, trip, confus-ed or anyone else that says something you disagree with? Hell, look back in the comments section, I backed you up in that case inbetween you and confus-ed, but a mod cannot act like that any more. You would have to become what you are not. If you did, we would be right back to the very same problems with ol Sherrif Q
Let's get one thing straight Ya_Know. I don't even remember the events you keep referring to. My continued "attitude" towards you has always been because of CONTINUED observations of your actions, statements, etc.
I have no beef with you ya_know. we have disagreed often and I think even flamed each other once or twice, but I actually like you quite a bit (not in a leg humping kind of way though)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
I think the fact that you say you would act differently pretty much says why, in my mind, you aren't mod material. You shouldn't HAVE to act differently.
besides you're usually in the middle of most of the $hit storms around here (save for the last one) if you were mod and not pushing the envelope there wouldn't be anything to mod and cleetus wouldn't have his arch nemesis to contend with, he'd have to kill himself or something.
If I were to nominate anyone past or present it would be macgyver Hands down.....end of discussion.
What i think is trying to be pointed out here ya_know, it's not an issue of personality or opinion. You have your opinion, me and you have had our disagreements based on our respective opinions when the dust settled on those, we had respect each other's view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ya_know
The underlying quality for a moderator is someone who can mediate well between two parties(user and forums policy) and how to handle difficult situations without inflaming it more then it is. Additionaly a moderator will need to make choices that go against their "grain" cause they may be enforcing a regulation that they do not agree or approve of.
A good moderator certainly needs to come from the community, someone who has always been responsible and helpful. In my opinion, it's up to the Admins to recognize this type of person and approach them. It's interesting to watch the trouble makers shape up when the searching begins :rolleyes:
I think Cleetus said it best when he said WD saved his job. He was able to vent frustrations, whether directly or indirectly, which managed him a cool head IRL. Typically when it comes to my “bad attitude” in the various discussions all over the past 3+ years that I have been here, it’s been a steam vent. What you all fail to rationalize is how is it possible for someone like me to separate from an issue, and manage a situation fairly? I can and I have, but you only remember the “bad attitude” because it sticks, additionally, I have not been a moderator, so it was never my responsibility or within my power to do anything except post subjective opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matridom
None of you have ever seen what I do with a responsibility, you’ve focused on the casual sh!t stirrer, and don’t even remember the other parts to my overall personality. You perceive what you want, and believe that it personifies me as a whole, and that’s not me. Even here on the forum, not just IRL, I am more than just that.
I’ll tell you what, none of you will ever know until I get a chance to do it. If the people on top sense it’s something worth doing, then I’ll give it what I’ve got. This forum has gone through a lot of recent change, as have I, both here and in real life.
I’d like to ask those of you against me to think seriously about supporting me. Many of you also perceive my background in the Marines as a militant personality…I think we should all be able to agree that it isn’t who I am at all. But that said, let’s not forget that I was in the Corps, and I know about making difficult decisions for a greater good.
Lastly, at very least, you have to respect my willingness to bring this out and discuss it, before any decision is made by those with power. I mean, the reality is, if I really do have a chance to become a moderator, (which indecently still shocks me), I don’t want to be frowned on by any of the current full time members. Rather, I’d like for you to offer me the benefit of the doubt, and see how things turn out…that is if I really have a chance.