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I have a netgear wgr614v6 wireless router hooked to my main computer and a notebook with an Intel wireless G card built in, both are new computers(im to give specs right now) and when we play games on the network I get alot of lag off and on on the notebook comp(we usually play Half-life1,Battle Field 2, Worms armageddon). I still get lag if im 7 feet away from the router.
-Thanks
For gameing you shoud use a wired connection
Yeah but my problem is my other computer is downstairs, I can't install ethernet wiring in my walls.
Then you need to see what is using the bandwidth or if the ethernet is performing at its full spec...
have a read of this advice and ping the router/ap see what kind of ping times you are getting.
have we got wep/wpa & all that 'protection' stuff on ? (big fat overhead ! & munches 'lots' {maybe up to 1 third !} of the packet size ;))
& does the fact that you said 'still get lag if im 7 feet away from the router' mean you don't if you move it closer ? (outside interferance ?)
Yes I have wpa on and im not broadcasting the ssid, no I don't think it has anything to do with interferance but i'll check. When playing games should I not broadcast the ssid and turn off wep/wpa? I'm a little worried about security because I have file sharing on.Quote:
Originally Posted by confus-ed
use mac filtering as a test - you have a firewall?
I think for online/network gameing there will "allways" be some lag with wireless
I have software firewalls but I turned them off, what do you mean just turn on mac filtering when I turn off wep/wpa?Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
Mac filtering is what a router can do.
Based on the mac address of the networks cards it can allow only certain ones to connect.
Another security feature of decent routers
Thanks, I didn't mean to appear to be totally clueless :sad: I know what mac filtering is but any explanations are always a plus :thumbs: .Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrit
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And I didnt mean for you to feel clueless, few people have any idea what mac filtering is
I'm not familiar with this brand of router, does it have anything like 'game mode' ? Generally this has a habit of mangling up packets as if it finds what it thinks is an IP address in the data bit of the packet it'll try & 'correct' that too.. anything like this found in a router that's supposed to help with lots of concurrent connections generally does anything but ..
& on the sugestion about using 'just' mac filtering (if your ssid broadcast is off & you've picked a nice non guessable name anyway), well its what I do - I can't think what 'top secret' info I have that actually 'needs encrypting', I just don't want 'random' neighbours nicking my connection ;)
WARNING!: Dumb Question!. By having the encryption off would credit card numbers, emails etc, be visible to anyone who could pick up the datastream?Quote:
Originally Posted by confus-ed
And know my router doesn't have a "game mode" heres a link to my routers info page
Also I saw some Linksys and Belkin wi-fi cards at Wal-Mart since they were both Wi-Fi certified would it be fine to use those in my other computers so they could connect to the router?
Yup, but I haven't got any bank details flying about (there's no way I'm buying all that 'online banking is completely safe' stuff - what happens when I get spyware? I'd be far more concerned about that if I were you, than somebody sat outside scanning for your bank details) & I don't really care who wants to read my e-mails ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Loopy
Turning off the firewall was not a good move. That means anyone can send you a packet on any port and your machine will happily accept it. Trojans work this way, then they start sending out the information as you typed it in the keyboard completely unencrypted. (keylogging)
You need both encryption and firewall.
I use Zonealarm, I just turned it off when im not online (just connected to the wireless network) I still need to figure out how to set Zonealarm so I can leave it on when im connected to my wi-fi network.Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
Paid or free and which version? Basically you tell it either the port you want opening or the software that is allowed or both. Put it in learning mode and then try to connect - you should get a box popup asking you what you want to do.
I use the Free version. I'll have to try configuring it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
By the way when I'm playing network games I notice that if someone walks in front of the router it starts to lag, Im thinking I'll need a better antennae.
Either that, or its faulty, or as I said before you live somewhere with loads of signals flying about that are interfering ;) - usual candidates for this sort of thing are cordless phones & 'big ticket' electricals, like TV's & fridges, freezers, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loopy
If you can eliminate/aleviate the problem by repositioning the antanae, then forget about software settings & start looking for physical sources :)...
I'll have to see if the signal gets blocked by someone walking in front of the router when wep/wpa is on. I'm not sure about interference from everything else, I put the router up higher and got very little lag. Also im thinking about getting two wifi cards for my desktop computers I saw a belking 802.11g and a linksys 802.11g card at wal-mart both are wi-fi certified do you think they would work fine with my Netgear router?(I didn't like netgears selection of wi-fi cards)Quote:
Originally Posted by confus-ed
I was also wondering if having the main computer hooked up to the router by wi-fi too instead of having it hooked up by the lan cable(100/1000mps)
the reason for doing this is so all three computers could talk to the router and each other directly without going through the router(dumb idea or not?)
So moving off your immediate problem, you seem to be proposing an "ad-hoc" wireless network, like this ;-Making the Wireless Home Network Connection in Windows XP Without a Router - the main downside of which is having to have one pc on all the time with ICS (internet connection sharing) on if/when you want outside/net access.
I think all you want really is to work out a better place for your router to go or buy yourself a better antenae or a booster/reflector to connect to it - for example
I think he wants a mesh.... ad hoc and AP all working is harmony... :D
not sure that the nics can do that... they would be switching between points all the time depending on who blocked the signal last?
Oh sorry for not explaining well, I want to have the dsl tied to the router so all three computers can access it to go online and I want to know if it's possible to have all three computers connect to each other directly for wi-fi lan gaming.Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
One or the other.
(you could do both, but it'd take a fair bit of messing about each time you wanted to switch, generally you only use 'ad hoc' when you don't have a router to hand - think of that like having several 'magic' x-over cables that can pass through stuff)
I know having them all access the router for net access is fine but what about multiplayer gaming? wouldn't it be slow having three wi-fi card communicate trough the router? also was the idea of having the main computer connect to the router through wi-fi fine(instead of through a network cable)(my reason for this is I can place the router wherever I please).
Plus i'm not even sure if I can replace my routers antennae, if I can any opinions on wi-fi antennaes?
They work! And most accesspoint/routers have a standard attenna attachment so you cna just buy one at the local store.
The thing about wireless is that going through the one access point, you have all the machines connecting competing for the same bandwidth, so every computer you connect to the same router wirelessly will decrease the available bandwidth if it was load balanced... but they are not, they are all greedy, so if you have 4 machines and one starts a big download at 54mbs, the other 3 are stuck with no mbs... or very few. If you had one AP per wireless machine and each ap was connected to it's own port on the router then the only bottleneck would be the speed of the connection to the router from the internet or other part of the network.
Thanks NooNoo! :thumbs:. I don't think that the antennae on my router is detachable(I can't complain to much it'll be free once I send of this rebate)Quote:
Originally Posted by NooNoo
I might buy another router once 802.11n comes out. Is picking a 802.11g card that's wi-fi certified generally a safe decision?
The problem with most wireless hardware that delivers enhanced thoughput is that it only works with the same manufacturer's hardware. So, your Linksys router may require a Linksys wireless NIC to perform at top speed.
I would download NetStumbler from: http://www.netstumbler.com/downloads/
This is a free utility that works with most (not all) wireless NICs. It will let you check for wireless networks in your area, and let you monitor your wireless signal to noise readings in real time.
Wireless LANs operate in the 2.4 GHz band and so share channels with most cordless phones and RF noise from microwave ovens. Some phone systems poll for new hardware frequently and can really disrupt your connection speed.
If NetStumbler reports lots of signal drop-outs, try changing the channel setting on your router from the default Channel, or consider buying a booster from Linksys or http://www.hawkingtech.com/
The netstumbler link won't work. could you correct it or give me an alternate address?, My bad after checking again they work, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by slgrieb
Works for me... downloaded net and ministumbler and the pdf files (release notes).