New system, What OS?

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April 13th, 2007, 10:07 AM
Matridom

New system, What OS?

I've gotten the last parts for a hefty upgrade and i'm debating what OS's to install. I have an MSDN subscrition so i have full choice of OS's.

The new system is a Core2Duo, so i get 64 bit support, having been accustomed to and only dealing with 32 bit OS's, I'm not sure what relevancy i'm seeing if i move to the 64 bit bandwagon. I'm currently leaning towards an XP/Vista dual boot for application compatibility issues with vista in general, but i'm not 100% on that path.

What opinions do you have to offer regarding choice of OS's?

Specs:
E6600
2 gigs ram
Raptor HDD
Geforce 8800GS (320 meg)
April 13th, 2007, 03:31 PM
BOB IROC

I installed a copy of Vista 64 a few days ago and so far the only thing I cannot get to work with it is my 6 year old scanner. Other than that it runs great.

I would say Run Vista 64 and download a copy of MS Virtual PC 2007 to run XP32 for things that may not work on Vista.
April 13th, 2007, 08:17 PM
rgharper

I would avoid a 64-bit OS unless you have a need for it (specific software that requires it, or more than 4gb of memory support needed) and stick with 32-bit. Otherwise I agree with Bob - put Vista on it and use Virtual PC to run XP if needed for specific apps.
April 13th, 2007, 08:20 PM
Matridom

i plan on installing virtual PC for linux. The problem i have with VPC is that it can't emulate the graphics card for games, so XP will be a true dual boot.
April 16th, 2007, 10:55 AM
TechZ

Just built a very similar system, using XP32 happily.
April 16th, 2007, 02:46 PM
WebHead

Ubuntu 7.04 comes out on Thursday. I would dual-boot that with XP if it were me. :)
April 16th, 2007, 06:37 PM
slgrieb

I'd do Vista 32 unless you have specific software issues with it.
April 16th, 2007, 06:43 PM
Ferrit

Dual boot Vista 32/64
April 16th, 2007, 06:49 PM
BOB IROC

Quote:

Originally Posted by slgrieb

I'd do Vista 32 unless you have specific software issues with it.

Why not just Dual Boot Vista 64 and XP32? Vista 64 has the ability to run most 32bit apps. I have installed many without any problems.
April 17th, 2007, 04:50 PM
slgrieb

Bob, I just don't see a compelling reason for V64 right now. Hardware support for it isn't quite as good as 32, most 32 bit software doesn't run any better on it. AND:
Rant of The Week; software vendors are inexcusably slow rolling out 64 bit apps, just like most need to be thrashed for their poor support of multi-threading!

I think, overall, 32 bit OSs are just a bit more mature than their 64 bit siblings. So, I'd either do V32 alone or in a dual-boot config with XP. It's not like you can't makes a change if the landscape changes significantly, after all.
April 17th, 2007, 04:56 PM
BOB IROC

I guess that depends on how you purchase Vista. I think if you get the retail Upgrade or Full version it comes with both the 32bit and 64bit versions but if you decide to go OEM you get one or the other but you do save some money.

From my experience with the beta and having it as my primary OS it seems to run my 32bit apps just fine. Granted they are not faster, but I didn't expect them to be. I had no trouble finding 64bit Drivers and a 64bit Antivirus so I think if it will do 64bit and 32bit go 64bit because if apps start coming out with 64bit compatibility you are already set and you don't have to completely re-format your computer (and possibly purchase another version of the OS) to do it later. I have Windows XP and Virtual PC2007 if I come across a necessessary application that will not run on Vista64, but so far I have not.
April 17th, 2007, 05:27 PM
slgrieb

Absolutely right about the standard OS choices, but Mat isn't confined by that, so he has more flexibility than the average user. Even for most folks, I think that by the time there are enough mainstream 64 bit apps (and good enough implementations to make them compelling compared to the 32 bit versions) most current hardware won't be up to the task.
April 17th, 2007, 08:28 PM
Matridom

I think i stated early that i have a full MSDN account, so i'm not limited by the price tag of any of the OS's.

I decided to go dual boot, XP32 with Vista ultimate 64 bit (I was tossing around going with Enterprise Edition).

Other then some hiccups installing XP, everything went smoothly.

I wanted to go 64 bit due to being in the field, My department supports a lot of the leading edge technologies so keeping abreast is a good thing.

Thank you everyone for your advice.
April 17th, 2007, 09:52 PM
jaimicook

Just fired up my new one!

The new computer is up and running, though not finished. I am running Vista Ultimate 32 on a new box I just assembled. DFI Infinity CFX3200 board with 4 gig 667 ram. 2 ATI X1950 pro video in crossfire. 3 Western Digital 320 GIG Caviar sata drives. The usual dVD and CD drives as well. Also have a 19" Samsung flat panel monitor. Might get a second one soon. Also have the big Zalman donut heat sink for socket AM2. All in an Antec 900 case and a PC Power & Cooling whisper 750 power supply. Haven't had time to put it to the test, but it looks good so far. I'l be getting my left knee replaced next Wednesday, so I probably will be off the net for some time. Probably won't get much done as far as setting up my super killer PC.
Jim Cook
April 18th, 2007, 08:52 AM
Mr_Miyagi

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaimicook

I'l be getting my left knee replaced next Wednesday, so I probably will be off the net for some time

URMM, is that part of your upgrades...???
April 18th, 2007, 09:08 AM
Matridom

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaimicook

The new computer is up and running, though not finished. I am running Vista Ultimate 32 on a new box I just assembled. DFI Infinity CFX3200 board with 4 gig 667 ram. 2 ATI X1950 pro video in crossfire. 3 Western Digital 320 GIG Caviar sata drives. The usual dVD and CD drives as well. Also have a 19" Samsung flat panel monitor. Might get a second one soon. Also have the big Zalman donut heat sink for socket AM2. All in an Antec 900 case and a PC Power & Cooling whisper 750 power supply. Haven't had time to put it to the test, but it looks good so far. I'l be getting my left knee replaced next Wednesday, so I probably will be off the net for some time. Probably won't get much done as far as setting up my super killer PC.
Jim Cook

looks like a good setup, I'm just a little dubious about the effectiveness of crossfire, let me know how it goes
April 18th, 2007, 09:40 AM
3fingersalute

I was dual booting Vista32 and Ubuntu up until the end of last week. I got frustrated with it and blew my whole laptop away and went back to XP32. When the new Ubuntu is released, I'll set my test machine up to dual boot it and Vista and I can run any other OS's I need in vmware inside ubuntu.
April 18th, 2007, 01:05 PM
jaimicook

knee replacement

yes, that is part of my upgrades. Will be working with 2 stainless steel and polyethylene knees. First one is working great.
I did the computer test in Vista and the machine scored a 5.4. Apparently that is not bad, according to the Vista info. This is the most powerful computer I have had anything to do with. First tests with cross fire look very encouraging. Don't know if SLI can beat it, but if so then SLI must be very good. I've been using AMD and ATI for some years, and I didn't see any compelling reason to change
April 18th, 2007, 04:25 PM
slgrieb

Say, Jcook, if you're having a knee replacement why are you going to be off the Net? I mean, it isn't like you're going to be running any Marathons or chasing women for a week or two.
April 19th, 2007, 08:26 AM
Matridom

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaimicook

yes, that is part of my upgrades. Will be working with 2 stainless steel and polyethylene knees. First one is working great.
I did the computer test in Vista and the machine scored a 5.4. Apparently that is not bad, according to the Vista info. This is the most powerful computer I have had anything to do with. First tests with cross fire look very encouraging. Don't know if SLI can beat it, but if so then SLI must be very good. I've been using AMD and ATI for some years, and I didn't see any compelling reason to change

Out of curiosity, what processor are you using?
April 29th, 2007, 02:36 PM
format c:

All the best on your knee upgrade, I am going to try Kubuntu Linux, does it have some sort of virtual pc in it?
Sounds like a nice rig there, I just dropped in a socket AM 2 board and 6000+ dual core Athlon 64 add to that one nice 640 meg gforce 8800 gts and I have a nice stable system, that 8800 blows away my 7950 gx2