Monday morning quarterback

[WebHead]

...Backpeddling like hell ? & wondering how to avoid another vietnam ?...

Precisely! Thank you.

[WebHead]

If all we wanted was to sort out OPEC, we could just park a few aircraft carriers of a few member's coasts and let the strongarm bit do it's stuff. No lives lost, no abnormal costs incurred.
If it is that easy, then why not write President Bush a letter explaining your idea and lets get this going.

We do have our own interests in mind, no doubt about that. We want a stable friend in the region and forward bases. We want proof to give everyday Arabs that the western way of life isn't all that evil. Remove Saddam, build a democracy (modeling it after Canada's seems to be a good idea), then roll in the Wal-marts and Disneylands. How effective do you think a moderate Iraq with a large middle class would be in stopping terrorism in the middle east? It might take a generation, but it also might work. Any reasonable solution is going to take at least a generation.
A reasonable solution is to let them figure it out for themselves. People don't like to be told what to do no matter how wrong or right the words are.

I keep wondering where this idea that Iraq was going to be easy came from? I was betting 5 years with 2 years before self-rule and 3 before elections. I was more than a bit off on the first benchmark and it looks like I will be off on the second. I remember lots of talk about long hard struggles. I remember lots of warnings that Iraq would not be bloodless or quick. I think a lot of the criticisms about the Bush administrations handling of post-Saddam Iraq has a lot more to do with those individuals ideas of an acceptable war than anything Bush has done.
I don't know of anyone that thought an Iraq war would be easy. Thats main reason the UN, most of the USA and most of the world DIDN'T WANT THE WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE. War is supposed to be used as a LAST RESORT and not to FORCE PEOPLE TO OBEY YOUR WILL

[TripleRLtd]

Perhaps,.. but my point isn't about the 'names' of the different groups that live there,.. it's the fact that there ARE different groups that live there that hate each other.

Can you give me an example of which Iraqi nationalism you are speaking of?

Well, wrbby, it would definitely help your debating effort if you could get facts straight! You go spouting off rhetoric, and you don't even know what you are talking about. Little advice here: do at least "some" research before you post a flame at jaeger!
BTW, I see that he gave you a perfectly valid "example" and YOU summarily dismissed it and chose a new tact! Cool, though! That, in fact does reveal much!

A reasonable solution is to let them figure it out for themselves. People don't like to be told what to do no matter how wrong or right the words are.

Of course they don't, but this was not about "people"! It was about an outlaw regime headed by Saddam, who wasn't even a "popular" leader, but was a despot!

I don't know of anyone that thought an Iraq war would be easy. Thats main reason the UN, most of the USA and most of the world DIDN'T WANT THE WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE. War is supposed to be used as a LAST RESORT and not to FORCE PEOPLE TO OBEY YOUR WILL

The UN, the US, and most of the world? I think not! So, now you are France? With her own duplicitous reasons for nixing the UN resolution and resolve? Well, that explains alot. A last resort? Is that what war is supposed to be for? In whose book? There is a difference between proactive and reactive. If the whole west had been more PROactive towards the moves by Hitler, the whole history of the 20th century would be rewritten.

[WebHead]

Well, wrbby, it would definitely help your debating effort if you could get facts straight! You go spouting off rhetoric, and you don't even know what you are talking about. Little advice here: do at least "some" research before you post a flame at jaeger!
BTW, I see that he gave you a perfectly valid "example" and YOU summarily dismissed it and chose a new tact! Cool, though! That, in fact does reveal much!
Of course they don't, but this was not about "people"! It was about an outlaw regime headed by Saddam, who wasn't even a "popular" leader, but was a despot!
The UN, the US, and most of the world? I think not! So, now you are France? With her own duplicitous reasons for nixing the UN resolution and resolve? Well, that explains alot. A last resort? Is that what war is supposed to be for? In whose book? There is a difference between proactive and reactive. If the whole west had been more PROactive towards the moves by Hitler, the whole history of the 20th century would be rewritten.

Brilliant

[TripleRLtd]

Good comeback. I am really impressed!

[WebHead]

Good comeback. I am really impressed!

Any chance of you actually posting something about the actual topic rather than following me around from thread to thread making judgements of others?

[TripleRLtd]

Any chance of you actually posting something about the actual topic rather than following me around from thread to thread making judgements of others?

Feeling paranoid lately wrbby? Want to borrow my "helmet"?
I answered you already here:http://forums.windrivers.com/showpos...4&postcount=18
Perhaps some of the words were too "big"?

[WebHead]

Feeling paranoid lately wrbby? Want to borrow my "helmet"?
I answered you already here:http://forums.windrivers.com/showpos...4&postcount=18
Perhaps some of the words were too "big"?

If you had posted it in english then I might've replied. I can't understand what the hell your jabbering on about half the time.

[Cleetus]

If you had posted it in english then I might've replied. I can't understand what the hell your jabbering on about half the time.

I just get confused cause it's full of odd questions that never really go anywhere

[WebHead]

Want to borrow my "helmet"?

Like this one Cleetus?

[TripleRLtd]

If you had posted it in english then I might've replied. I can't understand what the hell your jabbering on about half the time.

Have you ever learned to READ english? Increase your vocuabulary? I can find some links for lessons if you'd like!

[WebHead]

Have you ever learned to READ english? Increase your vocuabulary? I can find some links for lessons if you'd like!

I'll learn how to read english once you learn now to write it. Deal?
Wich vocuabulary werds wud you lik me to lern ferst?

[TripleRLtd]

These:
http://forums.windrivers.com/showpos...4&postcount=18
The ones that you seemingly don't understand.
Hey, I answered you, the least you could do is answer as well, and NOT plead: no comprende!!!

[WebHead]

Ask and ye shall receive:

Well, wrbby, it would definitely help your debating effort if you could get facts straight!
Which: factS
Do..
I
NoT, HAVE *straight*

You go spouting off rhetoric, and you don't even know what you are talking about.
Which: rhetorics
Do..
I
[spout]

Little advice here: do at least "some" research before you post a flame at jaeger!
The TOPIC: are are you afriad or *paranoid* vocabularirily
Is
NOT BUTT
About *HISTORY*
IT's about: Bushs (Speech)

BTW, I see that he gave you a perfectly valid "example" and YOU summarily dismissed it and chose a new tact!
A tact? Which one did I choose?

Cool, though! That, in fact does reveal much!
Great. So what exactly does it reveal?

Of course they don't, but this was not about "people"! It was about an outlaw regime headed by Saddam, who wasn't even a "popular" leader, but was a despot!
It's not about the people?

The UN, the US, and most of the world? I think not!
Then how come we are the only ones fighting it (well Great Britain too of course, but still..)

So, now you are France?
No. I am WebHead.

With her own duplicitous reasons for nixing the UN resolution and resolve?
What were the reasons?

Well, that explains alot.
What does that explain?

A last resort?
So your ok with people dying when there might've been another choice?

Is that what war is supposed to be for?
Based on what I know, war is a method used by a country to defend itself from an imminent attack. What would your use for it be?

In whose book?
If it's a book you seek, "The Art of War" tells you a little bit about it.

There is a difference between proactive and reactive.
Oh yeah? Great observation.

If the whole west had been more PROactive towards the moves by Hitler, the whole history of the 20th century would be rewritten.
Ok,.. so in what way would it have been rewritten? What would've happened?

Well after going through this line by line and answering RRR as he begged me to do,.. I have a few thoughts.
1> He asks many open ended questions and offers no specifics as to what he is trying to figure out.
2> He makes open ended judgements based on opinions spoken.
3> His style of posting is very difficult to do. I gave up on it after like my second or third reply above.

[WebHead]

These:
http://forums.windrivers.com/showpos...4&postcount=18
The ones that you seemingly don't understand.
Hey, I answered you, the least you could do is answer as well, and NOT plead: no comprende!!!

Done