A Note From Sowulo

**Renée** · June 20th, 2002, 10:34 PM

Hi, all...

Curt sent this note out today and asked me to post it here. He's gotten a lot of emails asking why he left or thinking he left for the wrong reasons, and he wanted to let you all know why...

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To anyone interested:

Just to clarify one last time. I did not ultimately decide to leave WD because of Ron. Ron certainly is to be held responsible for building the fire and throwing on the fuel. However, his actions proved to me what a small, egotistical person he truly is and as such not worth being given any credit for driving me away. What finally caused me to make the decision to leave WD was the lack of communication or leadership from the top. Scott had ample opportunity to get involved and chose instead to totally ignore the whole situation. For the thousands of hours I donated to help the site, I felt that the least he could do is take a few minutes to offer an opinion in the Mod's room where I posted my concerns and requested his feedback. But he chose to remain silent. Even at that, I might not have left permanently. But when he took it upon himself to change Lycia's signature while still refusing to comment on the overall situation and the very reason for the content of that sig, that clinched the deal for me.

Also, by not at least requiring Ronny to apologize for his actions, Scott also managed to convince me that he really didn't care what happened in the forums. As such, he made me feel that all the hard work I had put in didn't really matter to him one way or the other. However I looked at it, I kept coming back to the conclusion that Scott had very different ideas about what constitutes socially responsible attitudes and behaviors. That's certainly his right. I could have respected him if he had have communicated something rather than just ignore those of us who did all of his work. But he didn't. I can only conclude that his values are far different than mine and it is my choice to distance myself from him and his business.

Scott makes his living off running WD for internet.com. Contributing as a volunteer as I did for so long helped him do his job. To be ignored during a crisis was to me, an insult much greater than anything little Ronny tried to pull off. I might have been able to stay the course and ignore Ronny's juvenile tantrums. But over this incident I lost all respect for Scott and because of him, Internet.com. Since WD's income is produced by ad dollars earned in part by my presence generating ad 'hits', I also felt that I was no longer interested in supporting Scott's livelihood by resigning my position as a mod and just logging on to visit with my friends. I will not be back. I really didn't wish to post one of those, "I'm leaving--feel sorry for me" topics other's have posted in the past. I've tried to stay in touch with those who have contacted me since leaving.

For any of you who wish to stay in touch, I welcome your emails and will respond (I'm a couple of weeks behind at the moment and hope to catch up soon). Several of you let me know of a couple of recent topics and activities that were complimentary toward me. Thanks for the kind thoughts but I would prefer that you would all just let it rest. I am not returning to WD. Thanks for all your support and encouragement. What I wouldn't give to have you all living close to here so that we could get together and have some laughs whenever we wished. Leaving has left a pretty huge hole in my life but hey, that's life: change happens.

Be well,
Curt
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**Stalemate** · June 20th, 2002, 10:40 PM

Thanks Renée.

That pretty much sums up what I'd assumed his reasons were.

**Wayward Clam** · June 20th, 2002, 10:40 PM

Same reply for me as in the Steam Room:

Well it is a shame this had to be addressed, but good to see this out in public at last.

Scott, are you going to answer this?

Because without any sort of response to the contrary, I pretty much have to see it Curt and Renee's way as well.

*sigh*

**cookin chef** · June 20th, 2002, 10:44 PM

Thank-you Renee!

Posting this message from Sowulo has helped to clarify some things.

I wish Curt well in his future plans!

Curt, I salute you!!!

Thanks for all your "Edited by Sowulo" work here at Windrivers.com

**BC GREEN** · June 21st, 2002, 01:28 AM

thanks Renee. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

**Morticia Addams** · June 21st, 2002, 03:53 AM

I will only say that I feel the same way. Miss a good friend and a good MOD.

**Fierce** · June 21st, 2002, 04:58 AM

Thanks Renee and Thank-you Sowulo.

**Draggar** · June 21st, 2002, 07:40 AM

Thank you Renee.

You and Curt are both missed a lot.

**opiate** · June 21st, 2002, 07:47 AM

what a f#@king cry baby loser!

if you let others rule you life then you'll never go anywhere. and besides, this is just a freaking web site. you must not have much of a life if you let something as small as this bother you. hell, you can't even create you're own post.

grow up, post-on and get over it...or get a life

I know many will bash me about this post but I don't give a crap. I have my own opinion and Kurt has never been in my line of sight, he always picked on me. so screw you Kurt and I am glad to see you gone! you deserve a kick in the balls, pu$$y!

***DonJ*** · June 21st, 2002, 07:54 AM

Well, I'm sure I'm going to get flamed also but Curt did all of this himself. He was given ample opportunity to take care of this garbage himself...then he laid out an ultimatum to Scott: either Ron goes or I go. What a crock!!!

He got his feelings hurt and now he's gone.

And yes, Curt was a great Mod but to be truthful with you, I haven't missed him.

Just my two cents...

**opiate** · June 21st, 2002, 08:01 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DonJ:
And yes, Curt was a great Mod but to be truthful with you, I haven't missed him.<hr /></blockquote>...I've learned to ignore him so much that I didn't even notice he was gone.

**Draggar** · June 21st, 2002, 08:07 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
and besides, this is just a freaking web site. you must not have much of a life if you let something as small as this bother you. hell, you can't even create you're own post.
<hr /></blockquote>Its a site that Curt donated countless of hours trying to help out, and to be treated the way he was, I don't blame him for leaving.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />
I have my own opinion and Kurt has never been in my line of sight, he always picked on me. so screw you Kurt and I am glad to see you gone! you deserve a kick in the balls, pu$$y!<hr /></blockquote>Now thats so mature. I doubt he picked on you, maybe because a lot of your posts before were concidered insensitive and insulting to others, he acted on it (yet again, trying to make this a better forum), and thats probably why you felt he was "picking on you".

<blockquote>quote:<hr />
what a f#@king cry baby loser!
<hr /></blockquote>Yeah, and its the same reason why a lot of people have either stopped posting or seriously slowed down their posting. He never posted a whiney "I'm leaving and never coming back" post like a lot of people, he just left.
He had this posted because he had a lot of emails asking him why, asking him to come back etc...

It seems the people who do that are the ones who will be missed, the ones who post the I'm not coming back, are usualy back within days.

**snooper2** · June 21st, 2002, 08:17 AM

thanx for posting that note renee. both of you will be missed greatly.

**Quiet Thunder** · June 21st, 2002, 08:26 AM

Ok, let's get one thing strait. None of us own this site. It's a privilege to be able to post here, for free. If this was a paid site, it MIGHT, and I repeat MIGHT be a different story. Yes, Curt was a god mod. Yes he was a popular mod. I didn't always agree with him, just as I haven't always agreed with Ron. But you know what? This is Scott's baby. This is his site, weather or not he sold it to Internet.com. This is his child that he born, raised, nurtured and spilled his blood sweat and tears over. Intill you are running several t-1 lines out of your house, just so tens of thousands of people gave get/share free internet advice, then you all can try to tell people how to run this site. You know what? Even then, keep your noses out of it. It's none of you're business! You have control over only one thing in this place. And that's your participation. Other than that, back off. Scott doesn’t owe anyone anything. People here are in-grateful and ignorant. People need to learn their roles around here. This is a free site, and instead of crying over the loss of one member, we should be celebrating the fact that we've all had to get to know that member, and the hundreds of other members we all know so well.

Scott, I know you'll probably read this, and I want to say you have my full support, and sympathy. Stick to your guns boss, you're doing nothing wrong, and don't let any bitter people tell you otherwise.

**opiate** · June 21st, 2002, 08:30 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cc_penguin:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by opiate:
what a f#@king cry baby loser!

if you let others rule you life then you'll never go anywhere. and besides, this is just a freaking web site. you must not have much of a life if you let something as small as this bother you. hell, you can't even create you're own post.

grow up, post-on and get over it...or get a life

I know many will bash me about this post but I don't give a crap. I have my own opinion and Kurt has never been in my line of sight, he always picked on me. so screw you Kurt and I am glad to see you gone! you deserve a kick in the balls, pu$$y!<hr /></blockquote>Didnt you do the same @#$@# thing?!?!?! Then you even held a freakin poll to see if we wanted you back?? I also recall you stating that these forums suck at one time just because we didnt share your veiws on music....

<hr /></blockquote>I was curious to know about the poll. Not that it really mattered a whole lot.

I mainly come here to express my days or comments and opinions on topics. It helps the day pass by a little quicker sometimes.

I also remember me saying that the forums sucked. They still are not like they used to be but hey I can live with it. I had to adapt and if it I had to create a post saying that "These fourms suck" (this was a long time ago) then that was my way of adapting. Plus I got countless emails and PM's from users that supported me.

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