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September 5th, 2003, 05:52 AM
#16
Intel Mod
You'd expect to find a BIOS EEPROM in the 32-pin DIL socket between the ISA and PCI slots. The fact that the supplier's illustration shows it this way suggests the chip has been removed from your board. Occasionally a BIOS can hide elsewhere, but I don't think basic stuff like PCChips was into this.
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September 5th, 2003, 10:59 AM
#17
Banned
You can't upgrade a bios/cmos which isn't there. The Dallas battery would store the flashed data.
You will need a replacement cmos chip.
Check:
www.wimsbios.com.
You can not use the dimms and simms at the same time and it might be hard to find an EDO Dimm out there that works (a pc 100/133 won't work) whereas most shops have an abundance of leftover simms. I must have hundreds (Geez, remember when theY were over $50 per megabyte).
Also, it will be very hard to find at a decent price cache on a stick for that "brown slot", but that was only an upgrade since the board has onboard pipeline cache.
Hope this helps.
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September 5th, 2003, 11:07 AM
#18
Banned
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September 5th, 2003, 12:17 PM
#19
Registered User
Here is the picture of the bios. It says 'Bestkey' on it. It is located beneath the ISA blots. According to your link, TripleRLtd my board will be rendered useless if the board is square and non-removeable.
However mine is rectangular. However, it DOES look like its non-removeable. Does that mean that the board is useless?
Thanks,
Orangeman
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September 5th, 2003, 12:23 PM
#20
Senior Member
that isn't your BIOS chip, thats the keyboard controller, if you look between the PCI / ISA slots you will notice a 32pin socket, this is where a BIOS chip would sit. I beleive the chip inside that socket is a non flashable BIOS Chip, but I also beleive you can obtain a flashed chip for that board and plug it in, as for coast, i come by it daily and if you look on the net I'm sure you can find a mod for the board allowing you to use SDRam. Good luck and let me know if you have any problems.
G.
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September 5th, 2003, 03:10 PM
#21
Registered User
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September 5th, 2003, 04:18 PM
#22
Registered User
Hi Garak,
So what you're saying is THIS is the bios
This is a quote from this system specs page:
http://motherboards.mbarron.net/mode...s/m525.htm#top
"AWARD 95 Auto-Detect Flash Bios with Energy Mgmt."
There are also downloads on that page that are bios upgrades. I downloaded three last night. Haven't used them yet. One thing that troubles me is that it lists two bios strings:
AWARD BIOS ID string 06/21/96-i430VX-2A59Ht5BC-00 (the original illegal bios)
- AWARD BIOS ID string 09/15/97-i430VX-02271997C-00 (the latest flash upgrade)
I knew PC CHIPS was a cheap company. Also, I had NO choice of motherboards in which to put in this person's computer. But I wasn't aware that PCCHIPS was up to illegally placing bioses in their motherboards
Last edited by Orangeman; September 5th, 2003 at 04:28 PM.
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September 5th, 2003, 04:34 PM
#23
Senior Member
yes I'm saying it's a possibility,
also, it isn't illegally placed, it was a common practice on late 486 / 586 boards as "flashable" BIOS's where still expensive. but at least they give you the option to upgrade to a flashable chip.
Send me the manual and I will go through it thourghly.
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September 5th, 2003, 04:41 PM
#24
Banned
Illegal bios?
That makes no sense; could be a misprint.
Orangeman, what they are talking about is flashing the bios chip with updated code. You need the chip before you can do this. Do you understand that?
Go to www.badflash.com and find a phone number and call them with the bios strings and see if they match and have them for your board.
From Garak:
"as for coast, i come by it daily and if you look on the net I'm sure you can find a mod for the board allowing you to use SDRam."
The point is Garak, that he does not need to go searching for coast since he has it onboard and the slot is an upgrade option.
Plus, simms nowadays are a dime a dozen, not so with PC66 or EDO dimms. If he is going to go that route, he may as well buy a new super socket 7 board for around $50 US and have
AGP, USB, and not be limited to a Pentium 200,etc.
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September 5th, 2003, 04:46 PM
#25
Banned
Just noticed the chip inside.
Orangeman, can you blow up the picture or tell us what it says on the chip.
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September 5th, 2003, 04:50 PM
#26
Banned
Better yet...
...instead of all this, stick a video card in it with ram, connect a power supply and see if it boots up.
If it does the bios string will be at the bottom of the post screen.
Let us know, huh. All this guessing is draining
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September 5th, 2003, 05:39 PM
#27
Registered User
Re: Better yet...
Originally posted by TripleRLtd
...instead of all this, stick a video card in it with ram, connect a power supply and see if it boots up.
If it does the bios string will be at the bottom of the post screen.
Let us know, huh. All this guessing is draining
Okay, I will. I'll do it in a few hours.
Orangeman
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September 5th, 2003, 07:06 PM
#28
Senior Member
Originally posted by TripleRLtd
From Garak:
"as for coast, i come by it daily and if you look on the net I'm sure you can find a mod for the board allowing you to use SDRam."
The point is Garak, that he does not need to go searching for coast since he has it onboard and the slot is an upgrade option.
Plus, simms nowadays are a dime a dozen, not so with PC66 or EDO dimms. If he is going to go that route, he may as well buy a new super socket 7 board for around $50 US and have
AGP, USB, and not be limited to a Pentium 200,etc.
At this point I'm not saying he sould look for anything, i'm saying he could...
But as for powering up the board, yeah that probably should have been one of the first things done.
Last edited by Garak; September 5th, 2003 at 07:20 PM.
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September 5th, 2003, 08:04 PM
#29
Banned
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September 5th, 2003, 08:13 PM
#30
Banned
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