detected in bios - boot fail

**cippy** · April 8th, 2004, 02:20 PM

hi forum,
i am new here and ... there ...
i have a hard disk .. 10 gb seagate, its been in good use for almost three years. last few weeks, it has been running 10 hours daily continuosly and also been travelling with me.
One day when I put it back in my computer, after coming from my friend's computer, i switched the computer on, reached till the internet browser, it gave a vxd error ..... ( blank number ) i restarted the computer, NOTHING. after post. It is detected in the bios, but does not boot. I have tried the mfg diagnostic tools, passes the major tests, namely 90 second test and surface scan.

I have tried changing cables, 80 conductor cables, bios settings, master/slave, friend's computers and the 2 hour freeze also, but nothing. I am going to try 24 hour freeze.

Please help

**NooNoo** · April 8th, 2004, 02:27 PM

Welcome to Windrivers cippy

I wouldn't do the freezer trick yet. You say you habitually carry this drive around... did it get dropped or banged in any way?

It rather sounds like you have a virus or a corrupt or bad sector. have you tried booting with a floppy to see if you can access the drive through dos?

**cippy** · April 8th, 2004, 02:33 PM

thanks for the reply

yes .... i have tried the boot from floppy, and the drive is not visible there also.
no, it did not get dropped or banged. but suffered travel shocks, i carry it in a foam case.

I hope the freeze didnt do more harm.

It IS in the freezer again.

Originally Posted by NooNoo

Welcome to Windrivers cippy

I wouldn't do the freezer trick yet. You say you habitually carry this drive around... did it get dropped or banged in any way?

It rather sounds like you have a virus or a corrupt or bad sector. have you tried booting with a floppy to see if you can access the drive through dos?

**NooNoo** · April 8th, 2004, 02:35 PM

I would not freeze it, I would use straight recovery software on it. Put it in a machine as a slave. Use your favourite data recovery software.

**cippy** · April 8th, 2004, 02:39 PM

I have none and know none. Please suggest some.
Should i take it out of the freezer, its been there for 5 hrs now

Originally Posted by NooNoo

I would not freeze it, I would use straight recovery software on it. Put it in a machine as a slave. Use your favourite data recovery software.

**geoscomp** · April 8th, 2004, 02:40 PM

And if you ARE putting it in the freezer, I certainly hope you have wrapped it airtight in plastic to prevent condensation forming inside the drive

**NooNoo** · April 8th, 2004, 02:42 PM

YES! I hope it was in a bag to seal it from getting condensation!!
here is a free one You can search that site for others.

**cippy** · April 8th, 2004, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by geoscomp

And if you ARE putting it in the freezer, I certainly hope you have wrapped it airtight in plastic to prevent condensation forming inside the drive

this time YES, last time NO ( in the freezer Yes, outside, when trying on computer, No ).
but it is out of the freezer and cooling off ( warming up ) in Plastic bag

**NooNoo** · April 8th, 2004, 03:00 PM

The freezer trick is the absolute last thing to try. I have to say that you will be lucky if it works.

The point of the freezer trick is you use it frozen. Letting it warm up defeats the entire object of the exercise.

You cool the electronics so that heat damaged pathways may possibly work long enough to get the data off. Then the drive is trash.

**cippy** · April 9th, 2004, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by NooNoo

The freezer trick is the absolute last thing to try. I have to say that you will be lucky if it works.

The point of the freezer trick is you use it frozen. Letting it warm up defeats the entire object of the exercise.

You cool the electronics so that heat damaged pathways may possibly work long enough to get the data off. Then the drive is trash.

In that case, changing the logic card might work ...

BUT, NooNoo, let me tahnk you for your prompt replies and honest suggestions, file recovery programme worked ( PARTLY ) . And i remember having used it for recovering deleted files.
But a new problem has come up, some of the files are NOT recognized by their programmes ..... ??? yet others of the same type do. Now what next. well , I am going to try recovering the files ONE- BY- ONE ( not slect all and save in ... )

**NooNoo** · April 9th, 2004, 12:32 PM

This is the long boring part - I will leave you to get on with it.

Changing the logic card may work, but the logic card MUST be for exactly the same model and revision.

Frozen metal also behaves differently - especially when that metal is a rotor.

**cippy** · April 9th, 2004, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by NooNoo

This is the long boring part - I will leave you to get on with it.

Changing the logic card may work, but the logic card MUST be for exactly the same model and revision.

Frozen metal also behaves differently - especially when that metal is a rotor.

yeah the expansion quotient .... I hope it does not damage the drive ..

Any new suggestions on the " file recognition/running" problem ?

**NooNoo** · April 9th, 2004, 01:03 PM

Nope, considering what you have done to that drive, I am surprised you got anything back at all.

You could use getdataback It is much better than the free one, probably because Getdataback is not free

**cippy** · April 10th, 2004, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by NooNoo

Nope, considering what you have done to that drive, I am surprised you got anything back at all.

Done What ?...... Use it the way i did, or..... tried to diagnose or ... that i froze ( actually chilled ) it ( the refrig must have been working at low , then )??