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October 4th, 2004, 02:35 PM
#1
Spread Firefox
Our first campaign (1 million downloads in 10 days) was a smashing success.
Time for our second campaign: over the next 10 days, let's register another 10,000 users for Spread Firefox.
Doubling the number of registered users on sfx will allow us to reach out to exponentially more people for future campaigns and will become an important resource to tap into as we continue to spread Firefox.
So roll up your sleeves, bust open your contact list, and tell all your friends about Spread Firefox!
To give you an extra reason to spread the word, click on the "my account" link in the toolbar at the top of the left-hand column and you'll see a new area called "User Referral Credit". Make sure to use the URL in that box when you're inviting friends to sign up. You'll get 2 points each time one of your friends registers from the page found at your link. And, yeah, if you have 5 different email accounts, you could probably cheat and get 10 points for nothing. But that wouldn't do much to help Spread Firefox, now would it?
--Bart, on behalf of the sfx team
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/
Let's help them out guy's. Thank's
They are at 7,586 Downloads and 0 day left.
You can see the Progress bar here.
Last edited by esnetsc; October 7th, 2004 at 10:21 PM.
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October 4th, 2004, 03:26 PM
#2
Registered User
been running it, got 5 people here at work running it
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October 4th, 2004, 03:31 PM
#3
Originally Posted by +Daemon+
been running it, got 5 people here at work running it
Cool v1.0 PR
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October 4th, 2004, 04:08 PM
#4
i like Firefox...but this guy has some legitimate points:
Firefox has a grassroots marketing campaign underway where they’re trying to get bloggers to add a Firefox button to their blogs. Asa Dotzler recently sent me an email asking me to participate.
We noticed and appreciate your repeated recommendations for Firefox at your weblog and we were hoping that you would further help get the word out by adding a small Firefox button to your blog. The image is hosted at mozilla.org and the code to add it is some very simple HTML. We depend on word of mouth (or of blog) and we appreciate your helping to spread the word with positive blog posts. If you’re interested in helping with this effort, you can find the buttons at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/buttons.html.
Actually, I don’t think I ever have recommended Firefox. I use it and do talk about it on occasion, but I think the browser has some way to go before I’d recommend it to the general population. Something as simple as upgrading from one version to another needs to be seamless and not break things before I’d suggest that everyone use Firefox. I understand why at this stage of Firefox development upgrades sometimes need to break things, but it’s still not okay to the average user.
Aggressively marketing Firefox before it is a completely stable product is dangerous. You’re running the risk of having people trying it out and being put off by the bugs, never again to return.
Other problems with the browser include…
It doesn’t entirely act like a native application on all platforms.
Popup blocking is sometimes over-aggressive. Popups launched from a positive user action (like clicking a link) should ALWAYS work. This is a tough one to get right, I know. And don’t tell me about the whitelist. The average user isn’t going to add lots of entries to the whitelist.
No “Go” buttons next to the address bar and search bar by default. Many, many users need a button to click. They don’t know that just hitting enter will do the trick. The Address bar and search fields are also too similar. “Why do I have two fields and which one do I type ‘yahoo.com’ into so I can start using the Internet?” Yes, I know you can add the button, but if I need a button, there’s no way I’m going to be able to figure out how to do THAT.
The launch problem in Windows ME needs to be solved. Yes, Windows ME sucks, but lots of people use it, and getting an error message every time they click a URL shortcut in the OS is bad. Error messages are scary to the average user.
Firefox right now is very good for an experienced net user, but is not at all ready for the average person. If you plan on targeting the general public, you need to understand the general public.
Most Web users don’t know what a browser is. That blue E they click on the desktop isn’t a browser, it’s “The Internet.” Or maybe it’s “Yahoo” if that’s what their home page is set to. Tell them to download a new browser and they don’t understand what you mean. I put Firefox on my wife’s computer and removed the IE link. She asked why she didn’t have My Yahoo on the computer anymore. My wife’s not stupid — to her the IE logo is how she got to the Web. Without that, she didn’t know how to get to My Yahoo.
You’d be shocked how many people don’t understand what a URL is and what the address bar is for. When they need to go to a site, they close the browser, re-open it so they get the MSN or Yahoo home page, and enter the URL into the search box. How about integrating the address bar and the search field? If what I entered isn’t a URL, pass it to Google.
It’s time to stop thinking like developers and start thinking like users. For evidence that the Firefox team thinks like developers you don’t need to go any farther than the Firefox home page. Let’s look over that page and put ourselves into the user’s shoes…
Firefox 0.9 is the award winning preview of Mozilla’s next generation browser.
What’s a preview? Does that mean I can’t use it. Is it like a demonstration or something? And what’s a next-generation browser? I thought this thing was supposed to help me use the Internet.
View more than one web page in a single window
You have to be a serious power user to appreciate that feature. Many people only have a single window open all the time anyway. If they need another window, they close the first one.
Firefox keeps your computer safe from malicious spyware by not loading harmful ActiveX controls.
What’s an activeX control? What’s spyware? All I want is to stop getting all those stupid programs I didn’t ask for.
Firefox is the most customizable browser on the planet.
There’s that browser word again. What is it? And why would I customize it? Does that mean that this won’t work when I get it? I’m going to have to work on it to get it working?
Use the adaptive search system to allow you to search an infinite number of engines.
Why are they talking about engines here? I though this was something for my internet, not my car.
The new Easy Transition system imports all of your settings - Favorites, passwords and other data from Internet Explorer and other browsers.
I don’t know what that means. Maybe if I get this thing, the way I use the Internet is going to change. All I want is a way to use the Internet without getting all that junk. I don’t want to have to change my passwords and stuff to do that.
Firefox comes with a standard set of developer tools including a powerful JavaScript and CSS error/warning console, and an optional Document Inspector that gives unheard of insight into how your pages work.
Uh-oh, now I know why I didn’t understand all that stuff. This thing’s something that programmers use.
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October 4th, 2004, 04:40 PM
#5
Banned
Long "rant" there Geeks.
BTW:
We have our own user here "spreading the word" rather well. Goes by the name of imaeditedbysuwolu.
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October 4th, 2004, 06:48 PM
#6
Registered User
ive always been using mozilla, but firefox has some nice userfriendly features, kinda wierd to get used to from mozilla, but its really nice and fast
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October 4th, 2004, 06:52 PM
#7
Registered User
Chalk another one up for Firefox, Thunderbird (mail) and Sunbird (calendar).
Best Slackware browser since Lynx
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October 4th, 2004, 07:03 PM
#8
Registered User
Originally Posted by geeksRus
i like Firefox...but this guy has some legitimate points:
Firefox has a grassroots marketing campaign underway where they’re trying to get bloggers to add a Firefox button to their blogs. Asa Dotzler recently sent me an email asking me to participate.
We noticed and appreciate your repeated recommendations for Firefox at your weblog and we were hoping that you would further help get the word out by adding a small Firefox button to your blog. The image is hosted at mozilla.org and the code to add it is some very simple HTML. We depend on word of mouth (or of blog) and we appreciate your helping to spread the word with positive blog posts. If you’re interested in helping with this effort, you can find the buttons at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/buttons.html.
Actually, I don’t think I ever have recommended Firefox. I use it and do talk about it on occasion, but I think the browser has some way to go before I’d recommend it to the general population. Something as simple as upgrading from one version to another needs to be seamless and not break things before I’d suggest that everyone use Firefox. I understand why at this stage of Firefox development upgrades sometimes need to break things, but it’s still not okay to the average user.
Aggressively marketing Firefox before it is a completely stable product is dangerous. You’re running the risk of having people trying it out and being put off by the bugs, never again to return.
Other problems with the browser include…
It doesn’t entirely act like a native application on all platforms.
Popup blocking is sometimes over-aggressive. Popups launched from a positive user action (like clicking a link) should ALWAYS work. This is a tough one to get right, I know. And don’t tell me about the whitelist. The average user isn’t going to add lots of entries to the whitelist.
No “Go” buttons next to the address bar and search bar by default. Many, many users need a button to click. They don’t know that just hitting enter will do the trick. The Address bar and search fields are also too similar. “Why do I have two fields and which one do I type ‘yahoo.com’ into so I can start using the Internet?” Yes, I know you can add the button, but if I need a button, there’s no way I’m going to be able to figure out how to do THAT.
The launch problem in Windows ME needs to be solved. Yes, Windows ME sucks, but lots of people use it, and getting an error message every time they click a URL shortcut in the OS is bad. Error messages are scary to the average user.
Firefox right now is very good for an experienced net user, but is not at all ready for the average person. If you plan on targeting the general public, you need to understand the general public.
Most Web users don’t know what a browser is. That blue E they click on the desktop isn’t a browser, it’s “The Internet.” Or maybe it’s “Yahoo” if that’s what their home page is set to. Tell them to download a new browser and they don’t understand what you mean. I put Firefox on my wife’s computer and removed the IE link. She asked why she didn’t have My Yahoo on the computer anymore. My wife’s not stupid — to her the IE logo is how she got to the Web. Without that, she didn’t know how to get to My Yahoo.
You’d be shocked how many people don’t understand what a URL is and what the address bar is for. When they need to go to a site, they close the browser, re-open it so they get the MSN or Yahoo home page, and enter the URL into the search box. How about integrating the address bar and the search field? If what I entered isn’t a URL, pass it to Google.
It’s time to stop thinking like developers and start thinking like users. For evidence that the Firefox team thinks like developers you don’t need to go any farther than the Firefox home page. Let’s look over that page and put ourselves into the user’s shoes…
Firefox 0.9 is the award winning preview of Mozilla’s next generation browser.
What’s a preview? Does that mean I can’t use it. Is it like a demonstration or something? And what’s a next-generation browser? I thought this thing was supposed to help me use the Internet.
View more than one web page in a single window
You have to be a serious power user to appreciate that feature. Many people only have a single window open all the time anyway. If they need another window, they close the first one.
Firefox keeps your computer safe from malicious spyware by not loading harmful ActiveX controls.
What’s an activeX control? What’s spyware? All I want is to stop getting all those stupid programs I didn’t ask for.
Firefox is the most customizable browser on the planet.
There’s that browser word again. What is it? And why would I customize it? Does that mean that this won’t work when I get it? I’m going to have to work on it to get it working?
Use the adaptive search system to allow you to search an infinite number of engines.
Why are they talking about engines here? I though this was something for my internet, not my car.
The new Easy Transition system imports all of your settings - Favorites, passwords and other data from Internet Explorer and other browsers.
I don’t know what that means. Maybe if I get this thing, the way I use the Internet is going to change. All I want is a way to use the Internet without getting all that junk. I don’t want to have to change my passwords and stuff to do that.
Firefox comes with a standard set of developer tools including a powerful JavaScript and CSS error/warning console, and an optional Document Inspector that gives unheard of insight into how your pages work.
Uh-oh, now I know why I didn’t understand all that stuff. This thing’s something that programmers use.
All very good points and I agree that they need to make certain points more stupidproof.
However, I think most people are intelligent enough to figure out there way around and get to the pages they really need to get to with Firefox. I put it on a complete moron's computer and he didn't even notice the difference except the icon was a different color. That and I didn't have to come over the next week to remove all the spyware from his PC. First week all summer I haven't had to mess with his PC.
I guess my point is that as long as the PC is not rendered completely unusable, which IE has been known to have a part in causing, the complete idiots of computers can deal with a different browser. The trick is that you don't tell them it's a different browser, you tell them that an update has come out which removes some of the things they were used to having, but that the end result is that they will see you (the technician) a lot less often and their computer won't end up completely hosed twice a year.
It's up to technicians to spread the word and help the idiots of the world with their computers. Sadly it seems most techs would rather keep the business coming in than do a permanent fix. That's what I've noticed in my experiences anyhow.
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October 4th, 2004, 11:04 PM
#9
Registered User
I switched to Firefox about a month ago, and my only big beef is that I want middle click to just pull up my scroll icon. I don't want a page in a new tab and I don't want a page in a new window. I don't want it to do ANYTHING but let me scroll.
Since we're on the subject...anyone know how to make that happen?
General Darksteel, fascist dictator, socially inept and clueless demagouge, and one man army of the L.U.R.K.
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October 4th, 2004, 11:13 PM
#10
Registered User
Originally Posted by Darksteel
I switched to Firefox about a month ago, and my only big beef is that I want middle click to just pull up my scroll icon. I don't want a page in a new tab and I don't want a page in a new window. I don't want it to do ANYTHING but let me scroll.
Since we're on the subject...anyone know how to make that happen?
Excellent point. I didn't realize that was what was happening, but I've done that before. Hmmmmmm...
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October 4th, 2004, 11:28 PM
#11
Banned
Originally Posted by imaeditedbysowulo
It's up to technicians to spread the word and help the idiots of the world with their computers. Sadly it seems most techs would rather keep the business coming in than do a permanent fix. That's what I've noticed in my experiences anyhow.
I have to agree with everything you say here. (except calling users "idiots" of course) And, have you noticed the few threads about "malware" where some techs here talk about how much money it's making them? I don't know about that. But, I guess everyone is different. I would think that us techs would do everything in our limited power to provide a "limited risk" system to common users. Don't you?
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October 4th, 2004, 11:46 PM
#12
Registered User
As a home/business tech company, I'll make my money fixing ie, fixing malware, spyware, etc, or installing Firefox, Mozilla, and then time spent teaching, training, answering phone calls about that new button,"What does that do?"
That's the button right next to the one that says "help".
Unfortunately, the business customers that we have been able to put in Mozilla, Firefox, are way less than the ones in the home market.
If computers were guns, you'd read in the paper everyday, of thousands of people shooting themselves,,,,,,
Forty years from now, we will be the TV repairmen of the 80's, but I'll have made my riches and be dead...
Sergeant WOTPP
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October 5th, 2004, 09:43 AM
#13
Registered User
We usually go with Moz for home users, but most of us have T-bird and FF.
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October 5th, 2004, 10:03 AM
#14
Registered User
All hail the power that is IE 4.0 ! It is without a doubt the greatest browser ever created!
"You are never too smart to act stupid" - Christopher Lloyd in Camp Nowhere
"The call is from heroism. Will you accept the charges?" - Homer Simpson
"Everyone makes fun of a redneck until your car breaks down." - Larry the Cable Guy
Corporal-Specialist, WOTPP!
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October 5th, 2004, 10:35 AM
#15
Registered User
While I have no particular preference between browsers for Windows these days, I do take exception to the way the person came in here going rah-rah- for some particular piece of software, and in effect, asking us to be spammers.
Be sure to pass this along to all your contacts indeed!
If only you knew what's inside of me now,
You wouldn't want to know me, somehow.
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