semprons the new athlon xp?

**Shard92** · December 7th, 2004, 01:06 PM

has anyone used these new semprons from AMD. At first I heard they were to replace the duron and were cut-down xp's but now it looks like they replace the xp anyone have hands on experience or knowledge of these processors?

**arch0nmyc0n** · December 7th, 2004, 01:47 PM

I dunno but skimming this;

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._11603,00.html

looks as tho they could be a hybrid of both ideas?

but by reviewing this it looks as though it's the AMD's new "Celeron":

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._11604,00.html

Here's a graph of comparison:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...~88854,00.html

the adobe pdf product info sheet:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/31805.pdf

Here's an "independant" comparison:

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=61&type=expert

**Shard92** · December 7th, 2004, 02:12 PM

thanks.... Didn't AMD just anounce that they were discontinueing the athlon xp starting like next year? I thought I read that somewhere..... So that makes it look like an XP replacement........?!?

**ShadowWynd** · December 7th, 2004, 02:48 PM

We have built several Semprons at our store - they run extremely fast, better than some of the P4Hyperthreaded systems in some cases. The technicians are very impressed. I would say it is a fusion of the Duron+XP line or the XP replacement.

**WildTech** · December 7th, 2004, 03:16 PM

Hi,

The sempron is basically a Athlon XP with half the cache. I personally think they are slower than the Athlon XP and suffer from the same problems of low bottom end performance under a load as a Duron or Celeron.

I changed our entire line of computers over to the AMD64 processor. Much, much faster and getting rave reviews from my clients using wide varieties of software and multimedia applications.

Just my 2 cents.

**Shard92** · December 7th, 2004, 03:27 PM

thank you for the opinions..... greatly appreciated.... though wildtech, the semprons I saw all said they had the 333 fsb. Maybe they are getting better. I did get the scoop from our distributor of basically what they are now this changes to how well do they work.... I've gotten some opinions but would welcome more.... in other words should I be selling these things or not?

**WildTech** · December 7th, 2004, 03:30 PM

Sorry Shard!

I made the correction in my post. My fingers and brain didn't get a good connection while posting

As far as selling them or not selling them............a lot of shops sell celerons and durons and get by with it. I personally feel that they lack the guts to perform well under heavy load applications. I know that the Sempron is better than the Celeron in this department, but I think they backslide a little in performance vs. the Athlon XP.

Granted, an AMD64 system is going to cost a little more because the cpu and motherboards are more expensive, but I think its worth it!

I guess it just depends on what your customers are looking for in the performance area.

**Shard92** · December 7th, 2004, 04:19 PM

Well we are mostly an intel shop anyway..... but if they have decent performance considering the cost then that is fine. We inform our customer about the difference of celeron/pentium4 and Duron/athlonxp but I just didn't have enough information. I've been hearing more that they are a better option than the celeron.... But when I first heard of them, I heard they were for developing countries only so I thought maybe low quality control.... we have built a very good reputation around town and I don't like selling something without having some knowledge of it....

again thanks for the post

**WildTech** · December 7th, 2004, 04:39 PM

I understand perfectly Shard

I have a reputation for selling top-of-the-line equipment too and that is nothing to take lightly. Once a junk dealer..........always a junk dealer in the eyes of the customer!!

I know that the Sempron is faster than a Celeron and, in my opinion, would be a better setup for a lower line system. In fact, I'm not sure that the Sempron wouldn't give most of the P4's a run for the money.

Would be interesting to do some benchmarking.

**Ferrit** · December 7th, 2004, 05:44 PM

They are to replace the Duron/Athlon line as far as I know
Sempron comes in 2 flavors
Socket A to be backwards compatible with Athlon/Duron boards
Socket 754 to be forward compatible
They are an outstanding chip
and never ever to be compared to that joke of a processor called celeron
Might as well have a VIA chip
Sempron for the same money or less is usually a significant step above celeron and
very adequate for quality desktops