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**jitBob** · May 13th, 2004, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Archer

Hey.......did we start hitting under the belt now

Which way do the politics lie???

**confus-ed** · May 14th, 2004, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by jitBob

Which way do the politics lie???

What do you mean - which way ? - I thought it was compulsory !

For politicians to lie that is .. certainly seems that way ..

I don't think we have 'left & right' politics anymore, it used to be pretty simple, but now they just steal each others policies & try & make out they thought of 'em, unless they go wrong, then it was 'the last lots' fault !

Generally I suppose the Tories (conservatives) are 'right' & the Labour Party is 'left' (but just at the minute its more right than left) & then there's the Liberals (who are left on some things & right on others, but mostly left & never get enough votes to get elected) .. & everybody wonders why the hell I'm confus-ed !

**Archer** · May 14th, 2004, 05:36 AM

Then theres the Scottish Liberal whatever you call ems [middle of the road]and the British National [hooligan prats] Party [so far left theyre nearly off the field].Not forgetting the likes of the Screaming Lord Sutch Party.......
OH hang on heres a google list:

Labour Party
Conservative Party
Liberal Democrats
British National Party
Central Alliance Party
Communist Party of Britain
Green Party of England and Wales
Legalise Cannabis Alliance
Liberal Party
National Democrats
Natural Law Party
Official Monster Raving Loony Party
ProLife Party
Revolutionary Communist Party of Great Britain
Socialist Equality Party
Socialist Labour Party
Socialist Party
Socialist Party of Great Britain
Socialist Workers Party
Third Way
UK Independence Party
UK Pensioners Party
Your Party
Plaid Cymru
Welsh Liberal Democrats

Highlands and Islands Alliance
Scottish Green Party
Scottish National Party
Scottish Liberal Democrats
Scottish Socialist Party

Alliance Party of Northern Ireland
Green Party of Northern Ireland
Irish Republican Socialist Party
Northern Ireland Unionist Party
Progressive Unionist Party
Social Democratic and Labour Party
Sinn Fein
Socialist Workers Party Ireland
Socialist Workers Party in Northern Ireland
Ulster Democratic Unionist Party
Ulster Third Way
Ulster Unionist Party

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**Archer** · May 14th, 2004, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by confus-ed

What do you mean - which way ? - I thought it was compulsory ! For politicians to lie that is .. certainly seems that way ..

The name of the game is to present some of the facts in such a way it totally misrepresents the situation thus supporting your decisions and those facts that support the truth are lost in the translation..........easy really

A bit like the invasion of IRAQ.

**confus-ed** · May 14th, 2004, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Archer

The name of the game is to present some of the facts in such a way it totally misrepresents the situation thus supporting your decisions and those facts that support the truth are lost in the translation..........easy really

..

Well I think we all said enough about Iraq this week already, so lets not go there now ..

But turning to this .. I've gotta be in the wrong Job ! - this all sounds like when I get deliberately confus-ed (rather than accidentally, which can happen !

) - What do you think of The Honourable Confus-ed MP ?

(why the hell are they all 'honourable' ? they are anything but !!!!!!)

**Archer** · May 14th, 2004, 06:49 AM

To the Honourable and Gallant memeber of the Confus_ed Party

During debates in the House, MPs do not refer to each other by name but by a number of formal titles according to their status.

This polite tone is adopted in an attempt to maintain order and good humour during debates.

Most MPs are referred to as `the Honourable Member for...' followed by the name of their constituency.

If the person being addressed is a member of the same party he or she is referred to as `my Honourable Friend'.

If the MP is a practising lawyer he or she is referred to as `Honourable and Learned'.

If a member is a past or present member of the armed forces they may be addressed as `Honourable and Gallant', although this is very rarely used nowadays.

`Right Honourable' indicates a member of the Privy Council - normally a past or present minister.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi.../e-g/82149.stm

You Can't Do That!

Smoking is not allowed in the chamber and has been banned since the 17th century. Members may take snuff though and the Doorkeeper keeps a snuff-box for this purpose.
No eating or drinking
Members may not eat or drink in the chamber. One exception to this is the chancellor who may have an alcoholic drink while delivering the Budget statement.
No animals

Animals are not allowed in the Commons, with the exception of guide dogs for the blind as used by Home Secretary David Blunkett.

Dress code

Hats must not be worn unless a point of order is being raised during a division - a fashion that has long died out - and a member may not wear any decorations or military insignia.

Members are also not allowed to have their hands in their pockets, this offence was committed by Andrew Robathan MP (Con) on December 19th 1994. Swords may not be worn in the chamber and each MP has a loop of ribbon in the cloakroom where their weapons may be left. Nowadays the loop is more often used to hold an umbrella.

[I like this one]

No dying! Finally, members must not die on the premises! This is because the Palace of Westminster is a royal palace where commoners may not die. Any deaths on the premises are said to have taken place at St. Thomas' Hospital - the nearest hospital to the palace.

**jitBob** · May 14th, 2004, 08:59 AM

Archer, Like Alice Cooper, I prefer the wild party!

**Archer** · May 14th, 2004, 09:03 AM

Nope your definatly a fully paid up life member of this party http://www.omrlp.com/

**Cleetus** · May 14th, 2004, 09:05 AM

I love that last rule, NO DEATH's

**jitBob** · May 14th, 2004, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Archer

Nope your definatly a fully paid up life member of this party http://www.omrlp.com/

**paraflyer** · May 14th, 2004, 09:27 AM

regarding Stateside elections....

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd41.htm

"As both Mr. Bush and Mr. Kerry continue to promise every special interest group and PAC in the country more and more unconstitutional looting of the people's treasury, Americans have forgotten what a sitting President can and cannot do in his capacity. ..."

"No President can promise funds from the people's treasury which, incidentally, has no money and every penny promised comes from borrowing. All bills of expenditure must originate in the House of Representatives, not from the President's desk. Presidents are not supposed to create jobs, the private sector must take that lead role in a free market system. Under communism, the government creates the jobs and the slaves; free enterprise is forbidden." ...

"Millions of Americans are afraid to vote outside the two "main" parties because they fear the other evil worse than they fear the lesser strength evil. This is what it's come down to in America? The I'm too afraid brigade are wont to cave in because they no longer have the capacity to stand up to party bullies? ..."