Networking 2 computers (office)

[lfoz]

one computer is set up already. It has internet connection and printer. also has a cisco router. i want to set up another computer to share pritner and internet. i already have a hub. so how do i connect the two computers to share a printer and internet with both the hub and router? the "set up" computer runs windows 2000nt and the other runs windows xp. thanks

[Ferrit]

Why would you need a hub as well?
Just connect the second computer to the router and its done

[lfoz]

i thought i needed a hub. i was just trying it out and thats the only way to share the internet connection. i have the WAN line plugged into the router. the router is plugged into one computer..i have to connect a second computer, therefore i need a hub. mutiple computers sharing a HUB. i am just unsure of how to make the connections from the two computers, the router and the hub...any more help would be greatly appreciated....

[Matridom]

i thought i needed a hub. i was just trying it out and thats the only way to share the internet connection. i have the WAN line plugged into the router. the router is plugged into one computer..i have to connect a second computer, therefore i need a hub. mutiple computers sharing a HUB. i am just unsure of how to make the connections from the two computers, the router and the hub...any more help would be greatly appreciated....

most routers have a built in hubs, all current ones that i can think of actualy, probably what ferrit is refering to.

if you have only one LAN port, then you do indeed need a hub. if you have more then one LAN port, then you don't need the hub.

*if you need the hub*

The hub will have an uplink port, you will need to connect this to the router
you will then need to connect the computers to the hub

you should now be good for sharing internet

*if you don't need the hub*

Just connect your second computer directly into the router

[Ferrit]

Exactly if the router has 1 port which i didnt realize there was any of those still around

[lfoz]

thanks for the help that should help me out....i'l be getting back to someone when i start to set the internet connection. i'm not sure if i have to give it a IP address or dhcp. i'll know more tomorrow... i figured out the connections---both computers plugged into hub, router plugged into hub using ethernet 01 connection to hub, and t1 line stays plugged in on router...if that sounds wrong just let me know...i'm a little new to this end of computers...i'm definately not a "network guy", i'm more of troubleshooter/troublefixer!!! so i really appreciate your guys help...

[lfoz]

fyi...the router has two ports (ethernet connections) but the one (0/0) is turned off and my computer dept. will not reconfigure router or let me reconfigure and thats why i'm using a hub....the router is a cisco 2600

[Ferrit]

I doubt you need to assign IP's its likely set to dhcp
You will know immediate,y when its hooked up by doing this on one of the computers

98/ME Start Run type winipcfg and hit enter your IP should be there
2K/XP Start Run type cmd hit enter then type ipconfig and hit enter

[Matridom]

fyi...the router has two ports (ethernet connections) but the one (0/0) is turned off and my computer dept. will not reconfigure router or let me reconfigure and thats why i'm using a hub....the router is a cisco 2600

That's a true router.. it won't share the internet. your going to need to add in a device that does NAT sharing unless you have more then one IP form your service provider (typicaly t1's get 3-5 IP's) if you have more then one IP, assign the IP staticly with the info provided by the ISP and connect things to the hub as described.

If you do not have more then one IP, then you are going to *need* to setup a NAT server (home gateways, aka, routers) are the way to go. I'm going to use properly terminalogy here so that there is no confusion.

The little boxes everyone get's to share home internet is really called a home gateway (not a router.. though some can truly route) I would recommending getting one of these (wired of course) if you need to setup the NAT on this network.

the 2600 is a real router (not home user stuff) and you should not much with anything in it's ISO unless you know router configurations

[4mat]

You can use the Cisco 2600 router and a hub to allow both computers to access the internet. 1) You will have to setup a static IP address on each of the computers. 2) You will have to set the defualt gateway on each of the computers to the IP address of the router. 3) You will have to set up a route in the router to route the computers IP's to the interface most likely Serial 0/0 or Serial 0/1 which is your T1 connection on the router. 3) The Cisco 2600 does not have a hub or switch built into it so you will need to use the hub that you have now. 4) Plug both ethernet cables from the computers into the ports on the hub, then plug one of the ethernet ports on the router to one of the ports on the hub.

I don't know the 2600 series routers that well but do believe they have NAT (Network Address Translation) built into them. Which allows each of your computers to share the one external IP address of your internet connection.

I hope this helps you out.
4mat

[Matridom]

You can use the Cisco 2600 router and a hub to allow both computers to access the internet. 1) You will have to setup a static IP address on each of the computers. 2) You will have to set the defualt gateway on each of the computers to the IP address of the router. 3) You will have to set up a route in the router to route the computers IP's to the interface most likely Serial 0/0 or Serial 0/1 which is your T1 connection on the router. 3) The Cisco 2600 does not have a hub or switch built into it so you will need to use the hub that you have now. 4) Plug both ethernet cables from the computers into the ports on the hub, then plug one of the ethernet ports on the router to one of the ports on the hub.

I don't know the 2600 series routers that well but do believe they have NAT (Network Address Translation) built into them. Which allows each of your computers to share the one external IP address of your internet connection.

I hope this helps you out.
4mat

The base ISO for the 2600 does NOT support NAT. You need to get the NAT Plus image and reflash your router.. meaning you would also need to reprogram the router, now, i usualy don't doubt the knowledge of people, but i think reprogramming this router is a little beyound our user. Hence why i recommended a residential gateway that is easy to setup.

As for the static information, that's dependant on the ISP provider as i've already outlined.

[4mat]

The base ISO for the 2600 does NOT support NAT. You need to get the NAT Plus image and reflash your router.. meaning you would also need to reprogram the router, now, i usualy don't doubt the knowledge of people, but i think reprogramming this router is a little beyound our user. Hence why i recommended a residential gateway that is easy to setup.

As for the static information, that's dependant on the ISP provider as i've already outlined.

Learned something today. I did not know that NATwas an extra feature of the IOS, I thought it is was built in with all 2600 series routers. Using a gateway / "SOHO Router" would be an easier solution.

4mat

[lfoz]

thanks for the help...i don't think i'll have any problems now..wishful thinking!!! and you were definately right, i wouldn't be to good at configuring a router. thanks again