I have tried just about everythign. I cannot burn cd to cd at 8x. But I can copy the cd to harddrive and then burn it at 8x. I've tried putting in a Promise Ultra 66 card to get the burner off the same ide controller as the cdrom. The hardware: Gigabyte MB, PIII733, 128Mg, 20GIG, Creative 8x4x32, Creative 52x, Castle wood orb drive. Any suggestions!!!!