Quote Originally Posted by NooNoo
have you read this ron? it is important that you realise that while it apparently is only talking about scsi controllers the documents says "although the source can be any controller name (for example, Atdisk, Atapi, or Sparrow" and therefore should not be put aside without trying the recommendations.
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Yes, I've seen that and considered some Registry changes. A couple of them didn't help...but I'm still open to actual fix for Firewire changes.

Timing errors may be a cause...not real sure if there's a registry fix that addresses this problem....if anybody knows of one...please share..

for toady....here's a pasted NotePad file....i created today...which outlines
STEP BY STEP....my observation since Booting up my "TYAN BOX"

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cd-rw troubling-shooting/research/notes 8/21/04 (sat)

Condition at time of successfull boot.
* no cd-rw firewire cable to C-rw, and no errrors in event viewer.

note: there is a non-finalized CD_RW disc in the drive from yesterday. power is available from Wall

wart.

MY ACTION:
* plug in cd-rw firewire cable

RESULTS:
*error in event viewer = Event ID 9

MY ACTION
*end "InCD" process at Task Manager

RESULTS:
* after some delay (1 minute approx) Event ID 9 stops its repetitive creation process which

was recurring every 10 seconds
*Event 134 (info) is presented...which is:
Received a device interface ARRIVAL notification for device:
\\?\SBP2#BUSlink_&CDRW____&LUN0#0006ca0200008189#{ 53f56308-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}

MY ACTION:
* click on "MY COMPUTER"

RESULTS:
*Task Manager displays RUNDLL32.EXE

NOTE: THIS IS WHERE WINDOWS HANGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

*no cables are un-plugged yet.

MY ACTIONS:
* using Cont+Alt+Del > select Shutdown...

RESULTS:
* Windows Message dialog box presents "Rundll32.exe not responding and progress bar times

out.

MY ACTION:
* repeat "Cont+Alt+Del" to clear any other reluctant processes.

RESULTS:
*no effect...Wait, wait, wait wait...then use SOFT_RESET BUTTON ON PC...PC starts it normal

reboot and BOGS down as is apparent on the WINDOWS LOGO "Splash" Screen at approx. 70% progress

bar.
*at perhaps 3 minutes the "Windows is starting up...Message box displays, Logon Message box
*the system Task Bar indicates that several "TSR's"have not loaded as of yet...Wait, Wait,

Wait....Ahourglass can be presented when mouse hovers over task bar...wait, wait...clock at Task

Bar is Frozen...Wait, Wait, Wait, 5 minutes, then 4 more minutes pass
* finally a full Task bar

MY ACTION:
* go to Event Viewer and note the large quanity of Event ID 9 are listed. 11:31:45 to

11:45:15 and still counting (repetitive) on 10 second intervals.

MY ACTION:
* go to task bar an attempt to "UNPLUG" Firewire Device"...Unsuccessfully...!!!
* go to Task Manager, Open to view "Processes" note "RUNDLL32.EXE is still listed
* go to "MY COMPUTER" Icon on Desktop, click to OPen,,,,observe incomplete informtion.
* cLICK ON "x" TO CLOSE and get " Program not Responding... END NOW>>>> Message Box
* Wait a few minutes>>>try again, eventually "MY COMPUTER" closes

NOTE: System is basically non-responsive now. Event ID 9 is still be craeated at Event Viewer which

is available if you don't rush things too much

MY ACTION:
*un_plug (1) firewire CABLE ONLY....
RESULTS:
* System SNAPS BACK TO LIFE....
* two Event 11, and one Event 168 are presented at Event Viewer
* two RUNDLL32.EXE are listed in Task Manager
* all old "Dialog Message Boxes are now presented on the Desktop that were previously being

delay by hung system.

MY ACTION:
* Click on "CLOSE or OK to close old message dialox boxes to clear Desktop.
My Action:
*click on "MY COMPUTER"...it opens normal... go to Task Manager...note RUNDLL342.EE has

been cleared out

RESULTS:
* no Event ID 9 at Event Viewer

FINAL NOTES...THIS sESSION:

* a non-finalized cd-rw disk was in the C-rw drive for this entire session
* THE "InCD" processs (Nero Burining ROM Version 5.5) was present and running during this

entire session
* System is fully operational and is now in notepad where I'm creating this document for

pasteing...except CD-RW is not available.

ron_of_orange 1:12pm
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more later...maybe sooner

ron_of_orage
1:23pm PST