OK I'm bringing this back again. I never got to mess with the ubuntu compilers mostly because when I got around to it I found out the OS was corrupted somehow. Regardless I also learned that it may be more beneficial to learn Visual C++. I recall having a long time ago a book on how to learn Visual C++ that came with a standard compiler/editor. Since I have no clue what book that was do either of you have a suggestion on what book that comes with a CD to acquire?