creative ensoniq audio-pci

[murphy1]

Has anyone had any exsperience with the
creative ensoniq audio-pci sound cards?
i have unsuccessfully tried to install this card about 7 times. I downloaded the newest drivers from the net, and when i re-boot the computer and it autodetects, it says " multimedia audio pci device". S i then direct it to the proper area for the drivers."windows\system" and it says that that area does not contain driver files for my device.

The stupid part is, that it was working flawlessly. the card was pulled in order to test a pci modem, and apoun reinstallation,]
i got all this crap....my brain hurts, and so i am sure it is some small stupid thing.

ps. i runn win 98 on a celeron 366 w/64 mb pc-100 sram. banshee vid card, pci 56k modem, all the ussuall stuff.

i welcome all coments, even if the do prove i am brain dead.(like i said my brain hurts)
thanks all in advance.

MURPHY....

[AlienDyne]

Hi.
There are two versions of this sound card.
The one is PCI64 and the other is PCI64V.

Do you have the correct driver?

The driver is located at S.B. cd-rom (:\audio\english\win95drv).

Give it a try.
Good luck

[ellingtond]

Just to check, are you sure that WIN98 isn't detecting a voice or Wav component of your PCI modem when you start up? When you think its looking for the sound card it may be wanting the modem driver disk.

Is the modem a Supra-Express? With voice capacity?

DE

[murphy1]

i am not sure of the version or model of this card. I know it is not the modem, cuz when i put in my old sound blaster 16 isa, it stopped asking for the drivers for pci multimedia audio device. i am not sure what to do now.

[JeanneD]

it wants the drivers again even if you already did the setup...mine does that too...you have to poin t it back to either the cdrom where the drivers are or the dir you extracted them into.

[just_a_tech]

I've found with problems like this a lot if you find all *inf files that pertain to the sound card, move them from the windows\inf folder to somewhere else (don't delete them just in case!) and remove the card from the device manager, reboot and let it pull the drivers fresh from your diskette or wherever you downloaded them from. This helps a lot, but not always!

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[murphy1]

JeanneD...the installation program i run neither lets me choose a directory or tells me where it is putting the files.
However i will try it one last time before hauling out the hammer....thanks everybody,
it's nice to know people still like to help.

[commander]

Try nsatlling it as an "Other Device". I've seen this with some other sound cards & the driver would not install unless it went in as an other device

[murphy1]

thanks to everyone for replying.

I did some digging, and found that this was a 16 bit card made by ensoniq, for creative.
I guess. Any way, my driver cd got crushed by a car, when i lost it from my binder. so...On creative's and on ensoniq's sites, all they list is uprade drivers to turn the card in to a 64 voice card.
The card won't install without the original drivers, as far as i can tell. at least i havn't been able to make it work.

any more good ideas?

I tried installing as you suggested commander, but no luck, i am begining to wonder if the card got zapped or somthing..
thanks again folks.

[madmax2]

two versions of this card exist, es1371 chip and es1373 chip, th

[kgmz]

The driver that you saw at creative that you thought was just a upgrade to 64 voice, is the complete driver set with a upgrade. So it should work.
http://support.soundblaster.com/file...5&prod=sb_ensq

[rusabus]

When ever I come up against a tough one like this, I do my "never do this to your registry" trick. I'm serious, back up your registry before even reading this. (P.S. I figured this trick out by poking around in regedit. There are hundreds of tricks just waiting to be discovered.)

start your PC in safe mode. I doubt this is really necessary, but hey, just to be safe.

click on start -> Run and type in regedit
(if you dont know how to run regedit, you probably shouldn't be trying this )

go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
delete the Enum section.

[now for the hard part]

go to and expand HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class

there should be a big list of things here. the first ones should look like:
{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}
{4d36e964-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
{4d36e965-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
etc.

eventually, you should get to stuff that looks more like:
1394
3D Accelerators
Adapter
CDROM
CXP
DBC
Disk Drive
etc.

Some of these categories will have plus signs next to them. Expand the ones that do. The expanded lists should all be numbered, starting with 0000. An example is my system category:
System
0000
0001
0002
...
0024

Delete all the numbered sub sections. In the above example I would delete 0000 - 0024, but not delete system. (do NOT delete any of the keys that have wierd names, like {36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}, also, dont delete keys like System, or 1394. Do delete the numbered sub sections.)

This will basically remove all record of your computer's hardware from the registry. When windows restarts, it will say that your display adaptor is setup incorrectly, and prompt you to run the add new hardware wizzard. Do it. In about 5 reboots your system will have all its hardware re detected.

If your machine supports ACPI, and you want to start using it, here is how:

Do all the registry stuff listed above, and when you reboot, enter your BIOS setup, and turn on ACPI support. (probably in the power management section) When windows restarts, and prompts you to run the add new hardware wizzard, and asks if Windows should detect new devices, say no and hit next. Under Hardware types, select system devices and hit next. Choose "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) Bios" and hit next. Windows should now detect all sorts of hardware.

I like ACPI. I would recomend doing the above procedure to anyone who wants to use it. An alternative to doing what I listed above is to do a format/reinstall, but run setup with the /pj switch. This switch isn't documented, but saves some steps.

Sorry for the length.

[Menace]

If you are going to follow the advice of rusabus, make sure you copy the "Win98" folder off your Windows CD to the hard drive first. It will make things easier because the CD-Rom drive will be unavailable until the IDE controllers are properly installed.

Good luck.

[confus-ed]

Hey Mr Rusabus rather than all that regedit nonsense, go into device manager and delete the PCI bus in system devices, shut down and restart, it will make windows re find all the hardware which hangs off the PCI bus, which is pretty much everything, after acouple of restarts window s should be using the best and latest drivers it has got and resolved in the process any IRQ or DMA conflicts, or at the very least you will know what they are.

The answer to all of this is to correctly identify the sound card and install the right driver. What the hell has ACPI or advanced power management got to do with whether a sound card works, unless it is using the sound cards IRQ?!