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April 27th, 2001, 01:12 AM
#16
Registered User
Ya know, this is a wild shot, but how hot is your chipset getting? Abit is starting to place coolers on their chipsets to combat stability problems. You said you had a GeForce2. Does that have ample cooling? If it overheats your PII and you new Athlon, is it possible that the card is the culprit here?
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April 27th, 2001, 07:57 AM
#17
I have been wondering the same. The chipset and card both have fans on their heatsinks yes.
Its not the card that causes the hangs, but it may be the card that sends extra heat to the CPU.
However, with the distance between the two. And the fact that I have 2 fans right next to it would lead me to believe that it can't possibly be pumping enough heat to send the cpu up 30 dang degreesc.....
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April 27th, 2001, 12:48 PM
#18
Ok, I didn't read the whole thing, but it doesn't look like enough surface area of the HSF is in contact with the CPU for adequate heat transfers to me.
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April 29th, 2001, 06:41 AM
#19
Originally posted by Underseer:
Ok, I didn't read the whole thing, but it doesn't look like enough surface area of the HSF is in contact with the CPU for adequate heat transfers to me.
I've got one of the silver finish ones, and it keeps my 1GHz a LOT cooler than the orbs did. (27 C idle).
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May 4th, 2001, 12:49 AM
#20
This page is there to answer the common question: "My CPU is running at xx degrees, is it too hot?". Here are the maximum temperatures for the most popular CPUs.
Note that these values are for CPUs that are not overclocked. Overclocked CPUs may run unstable even if their temperature is way below the maximal specified temperature.
AMD Athlon and Duron
Socket A CPUs (Athlon, Duron) up to 1GHz 90°C
Socket A CPUs (Athlon) 1.1GHz or more 95°C
All Slot A CPUs (Athlon classic, Athlon Thunderbird) 70°C
AMD K6 series
All K6 CPUs (166-300MHz) and most K6-2/K6-III CPUs 70°C
K6-2/K6-III CPUs, model name ending with X (e.g. K6-2-450AFX) 65°C
K6-2-400AFQ (uncommon) 60°C (!!!)
K6-2+, K6-III+, most mobile K6/K6-2 CPUs 85°C
mobile K6/K6-2 model name ending with K (e.g. mobile K6-2-P-400AFK) 80°C
The temperatures specified for AMD CPUs max case surface temperatures. These CPUs do not have an internal diode to measure CPU temperature. The accuracy of the CPU temperature measurement depends on the motherboard; therefore, it is possible that the CPU overheats even though the CPU temperature reported by the motherboard is below the specified maximal temperature.
Intel Pentium III
Pentium III Socket 370 500-866MHz,
Pentium III Slot 1 (first generation, OLGA) 550-600MHz,
Pentium III Slot 1 ('Coppermine') 500-866MHz 80-85°C depending on model
Pentium III Socket 370 and Slot 1, 933MHz 75°C
Pentium III Slot 1 933MHz 60°C (!!!)
Pentium III Slot 1 1GHz 70°C for newer versions
60°C (!!!) for older version
Pentium III Slot 1 1.13GHz (first version) 62°C (!!!)
Pentium III max temperatures are the maximum temperatures reported by the thermal junction inside the CPU.
Intel Celeron / Celeron
Celeron 266-433MHz 85°C (max. CPU case temperature)
Celeron 466-533MHz (0.25µ) 70°C (max. CPU case temperature)
Celeron 533-600MHz ('Coppermine) 90°C
Celeron 633 and 667MHz 82°C
Celeron 700MHz and more 80°C
Celeron max temperatures are the maximum temperatures reported by the thermal junction inside the CPU, unless otherwise specified.
Intel Pentium II
Pentium II (1st generation, 'Klamath') 72°-75°C depending on MHz
Pentium II (2nd generation, 2.0V core), 266-333MHz 65°C
Pentium II (350-400MHz) 75°C
Pentium II (450MHz) 70°C
Pentium II temperatures are the maximum temperatures of the thermal transfer plate (on which the heatsink is installed).
Intel Pentium 4 (Willamette)
Pentium 4 1.3GHz 69°C
Pentium 4 1.4GHz 70°C
Pentium 4 1.5GHz 72°C
Intel Pentium Pro
Pentium Pro, 256 or 512K L2 cache 85°
Pentium Pro, 1MB L2 cache 80°C
Pentium Pro temperatures are maximum surface temperatures.
Note: For information on the maximum temperature of less common CPUs (mobile CPUs, VIA/Cyrix, older CPU models) and other electrical specifications, please visit Chris Hare's Processor Electrical Specifications page.
The information here is provided WITHOUT WARRANTY of any kind. If you are designing a system and need to have accurate information on the maximum temperature of a specific CPU, please rely on the information provided by the CPU manufacturer, and not the information here.
Last update: January 29, 2001. Future CPU models (even if they are marketed under the same name/with the same MHz) as the CPUs mentioned here may have different thermal specifications
I have a proper toolkit now complete with a little torch!!!
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May 10th, 2001, 01:08 PM
#21
Registered User
Originally posted by Bjackso:
Some more information about this. After extended testing temps of 71 have been reached. I'm realy confused.
To give you a little history. Maybe somone can help.
My last system: When I first put my gforce2 card in my old pII 450 it started overheating. Put an AMD slot cooler on it and no more problems.
Transfer same gforce2 card to new system it overheats and freezes aswell. Case temperate has been droping below 30 celc. so in no way is it related to venitilation. Is it possible that the chip is simply defective. Or is my "Approved AMD cpu cooler" that came WITH the chip from AMD simply not cutting it?
Again at idle time the temperature is NORMAL for AMD idle temps. Some times durring idle it is actually well below average temp. Its when I put load on it... it goes from normal to *30* degrees celsius warmer, and then shuts down.
I am so lost 
Thanks for any help again.
-Bryan
Had a friend with similar problem heat from T-bird and Geforce were to much added larger PWS and 3 additional fans now it runs smooth.
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