Athlon VS. P4?

[ClickHere2Surf.com]

I know someone that replaced his Athlon 1.4Ghz with a P4 2000. Is the P4 2000 better than athlon?

Also, wich is best/fastest? P4 2000 or Athlon XP 1.6Ghz?

Thanks

[MacGyver]

Uh oh

[ClickHere2Surf.com]

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[MacGyver]

Asking an intel vs AMD question is a good way to start a flame war. People are very, shall we say, vocal in their opinions.

[WebHead]

[quote]Originally posted by MacGyver:
<strong>Asking an intel vs AMD question is a good way to start a flame war. People are very, shall we say, vocal in their opinions.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Let's just hope everyone is mature enough to not start flaming. BTW,.. Intel will always be my preference.

[JungleMan1]

I will comply with this and give the facts, and will not insult any opinions.

My personal preference is AMD.

AMD processors have more efficient cores than Pentium 4s..that is, they process more instructions per clock cycle (I think the AXP does 9 as opposed to 6 on the Pentium 4). So even at lower clock speeds, they can often outperform Pentium 4s. This is not an opinion, it was the way the processors were designed.

In MOST cases, the Athlon XP 1.6ghz will outperform the 2.0ghz Pentium 4, but this does not mean ALL cases. Here is a link of the Athlon XP 1700 (1.47ghz) vs the pentium 4 2.0 among others:

<a href="http://www.overclockersonline.com/?page=articles&num=102" target="_blank">http://www.overclockersonline.com/?page=articles&num=102</a>

You will have to browse through a few pages to get to the benchmarks.

[Radical Dreamer]

The facts are in numbers, the AMD does 9 instructions per clock cycle, and the P4 only does 6.

[ßracius]

Cache size? There is more than a CPU than how many micro-codes it can spit out. It would be nice if someone with some time on their hands could lay out all the facts about the two CPUs

[WebHead]

One of the problems I have with benchmarks and so forth, is that every CPU is different. It's like a box of chocolates... yadda yadda yadda. One can certainly check out the facts, and come to the conclusion that an AMD CPU is faster than an Intel or vice versa. It's like trying to say a V8 Mustang is faster than a V8 Camaro. You just can't even compare the 2 as to which is faster. One might be faster than the other on any given day. True, one engine might offer more horsepower specifically or even more torque, etc., but there are soooo many other variables that determine the overall performance.

So for me, I've always gone the way of quality and reliability in the product, and those 2 features go by the name of Intel. The speed differences are so inconsequential, that it doesn't even matter, and nobody can even tell the difference when using either of the products. But hey, that's just my humble opinion.

[JungleMan1]

As requested.

P4 has an 8k (that's all...another flaw...even P3s have 64K) data cache (L1) and a 256K L2 cache. Athlons have 128k L1 cache and a 256K L2 cache.

Not sure about Xeons.

P4 Northwood should have 512K L2 cache, which should provide a nice performance boost. When the P4 was originally designed, they wanted it to have 1MB of something called L3 data cache, but it was removed in the final design.

Information from Darek Mihocka (a very smart man) at <a href="http://www.emulators.com/pentium4.htm," target="_blank">http://www.emulators.com/pentium4.htm,</a>.

[ßracius]

I agree with the head on this one. That is why I kinda back Intel up sometimes. AMD has kinda such the chubby on this one with the core cracking and thermial issues

[WebHead]

[quote]Originally posted by Bracius:
<strong>...the head...</strong><hr></blockquote>

LOL,... The Head. That's a good one. I'm just this guy with a big giant head floating around on my shoulders. ROTFLMAO!

[ßracius]

LOL! I am all about the props on this one man.

[AlienDyne]

Oh, another AMD vs Intel topic!!

[Daemon]

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA ANOTHER ONE