[RESOLVED] Stop, Don't Overclock !!!

[DesertEagle]

Please, if you do overclock, don't complain. There are those out there who believe it is their (insert deity here) given right to overclock. I suppose but does that mean it is my right to bolt on a supercharger to my Honda Civic and not expect some possible problems down the road? When you overclock things may or may not go wrong but given you are exceeding the tested tolerances, things will most likely happen sometime. So if things go wrong I feel yer pain but that is life in the fast lane !!!!

[Darren Wilson]

I agree Desert Eagle.

One little tip for those of you out there with problems on overclocked systems. Try resetting the system back to the stated speed on the chip before posting

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[Larommi]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Darren Wilson:
I agree Desert Eagle.

One little tip for those of you out there with problems on overclocked systems. Try resetting the system back to the stated speed on the chip before posting

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Or bringing it in to the shop and complaining it does not run right!! Oh wait, I get paid good money to set jumpers...nevermind!



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[Yanish]

Quite right if the overclocking was so simple and easy then the proceesors would come readly like this.
The whole point is that overclocking may work like a charm or may just make your system seriously unstable.

[AlienDyne]

I agree too!

After all, you don't have the right to ask for service when your machine is overclocked!

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[MDD1963]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DesertEagle:
Please, if you do overclock, don't complain. So if things go wrong I feel yer pain but that is life in the fast lane !!!!</font>

Yes, but several months back, it was so easy (4 keystrokes in BIOS) to OC a P3/600E to 800EB speeds without a stutter...as the P3/800EB was pushing $640 at the time, it was at least a minor victory on the budget front!)

[weazel]

overclocking is a hobby...it is far from a refined art...i mean think about it...why would anyone put a $130 refrigeration unit on a $55 processor? its fun thats why..if it fries so what go buy a new processor...if you want stability and performance don't do it...on the other hand if tweaking the crap out of a pentium 566 to run at 932 is fun then be prepared for system freezes, windows protection errors and the sort...if your gonna do it, read all there is to read first...get to know the limitations of the hardware you have...not all processors overclock and some processors overclock better on other motherboards...buy big fans to keep the beast cool...or just drop a few extra dollars and buy a faster cpu...usually performance gains are perceptual in most cases...a celeron 566 running at 850 is easily outperformed by its PIII counterpart running at its default settings...don't think big mhz on cheap cpus means superior performance cause it doesn't always. I have more money invested in cooling stuff then in processors themselves, but its a hobby...when i need stability i clock back to the designed clock speed and leave it....ok, i'm done...sorry guys...i just get umpteen people asking me about 'guarnteed' overclock performance all the time ... and there aren't any guarntees...there...i feel better now...

[iateyourcat]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Weazel:
overclocking is a hobby...</font>

amen. the superchaged civic is a good analogy too. it's fun to tweak. my PIII 800 runs at 920 and stably (until directx 8 but that's fixed). i bought a good board and a good fan. i did a bunch of research and drooled over specs, compared benchmarks, bought it and hoped for the best.

i can't see an overclocker asking for support from non overclockers.. it's like a nascar mechanic running down to sears to see if they can recommend how many thousandths to grind out of the intake ports..

if someone comes in expecting support or a warranty on an overclocked machine, you should laugh them out of the store.



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[3fingersalute]

Agreed.

When people ask for reccomendations on overclocking, I always tell them that there is a reason the processor is labeled as a 600 and not an 800......Obviusly when tested by Intel, AMD, etc.......it only ran stabily at 600!!!

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[unknownGHOST]

Why do you overclock? You buy a processor or system at a speed you want or can afford...why risk damaging a possibly good processor just to got a few MHz faster? You won't see much of a difference anyhow. Oh WOW! 700 to 733! Major speed jump there.

You shouldn't be messing with computers like that if you are too cheap to go and buy a better piece of hardware. That or your a bum trying to hit it rich somewhere by doing that.

[This message has been edited by unknownGHOST (edited December 30, 2000).]

[MDD1963]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 3fingersalute:
When people ask for reccomendations on overclocking, I always tell them that there is a reason the processor is labeled as a 600 and not an 800......Obviusly when tested by Intel, AMD, etc.......it only ran stabily at 600!!!</font>

An interesting theory, but quite flawed. Typically, Intel will make several processors on an identical core, separating them only by multiplier. Several are tested at *only* the speed for which they were binned/intended, and they could and easily do run at the higher speeds within their core limitations. (Many folks run 650E's at 866, and many more 700's at 933...equating to possibly a few hundred extra dollars worth of performance...for free.)

As for AMD processors, it is a known fact that several of the older Athlon 550's and 600's were built on 700 and 750 cores, and were even labled as such. It's an identical core, just multiplier locked acording to how many of each speed grade they were producing...and with AMD, you can unlock the multipliers.

Case in point...purchased a new 600E several months back, when they were retailing for about $290...a few keystokes in BIOS, and presto, 800EB performance via th 133 MHZ FSB. At the time, the 800EB was retailing for $645. Theoretically, $345 saved vice simply buying an 800EB. (No, no core voltage increase was necessary, and the processor ran a whole 10 deg F warmer, at a "crispy" 85 deg F!)

[cheezmonkey]

I agree. I dont know a lot about overclocking and i dont claim to, but everything said by the guy above me i have heard/read a million times. Shame my celeron 400 at my desk here at work locks up at more than 411 mhz. o well. time to sneak in a bigger fan methinks

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[DaOnly123Kid]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Weazel:
overclocking is a hobby...it is far from a refined art...i mean think about it...why would anyone put a $130 refrigeration unit on a $55 processor? its fun thats why..if it fries so what go buy a new processor...if you want stability and performance don't do it...on the other hand if tweaking the crap out of a pentium 566 to run at 932 is fun then be prepared for system freezes, windows protection errors and the sort</font>

Windows freezes all the time anyway...so whats a couple of extra times a week going to matter if i'm saving a crapload of money!!!!

[mptyza]

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Geneva, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by unknownGHOST:
Why do you overclock? You buy a processor or system at a speed you want or can afford...why risk damaging a possibly good processor just to got a few MHz faster? You won't see much of a difference anyhow. Oh WOW! 700 to 733! Major speed jump there....
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I'm sorry, but my PII 300 has been running stable at 464. How is 164 a few MHz faster?

Think before you post.

[Jallentino]

We over clock, because we can. Living on the edge, flying faster than ever before, right to the edge of the envelope. Hey I think thats from TOP GUN. Anyway, I agree, high performance has a price, and stability is one of them. I have overclocked things up 100mhz and I think the noticable difference was in my head. I just let my 800 run at 800, life is easier that way.

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