Pioneer model DVD-113 won't read DVD-ROMs

**Ruslan** · March 23rd, 2001, 10:06 AM

Well,this time I'm asking for help.
Have got used Pioneer DVD-ROM for close to nothing $$$

This DVD,though, works great, but ... only as
CDROM. Do not read DVD-ROMs... At all...
So, my question is now - is it hardware specific or it's really something wrong with DVD parts (as CD-ROM reader this drive works excellent)? Should I install special DVD drivers or soft, or something else?
Any help would be appresiated...

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Ruslan Khyzha

Darren Wilson · March 23rd, 2001, 10:11 AM

In which way does it not read them Ruslna?

Nothing listed in Explorer or after double clicking the drive in My Computer? If so it may be worth checking for a firmware update for it and seeing if that may help (worked for me on my Toshiba S1202 that I am using here).

If it is just not playing the movies, then normal DVD software should suffice.

If the drive is less than 12 months old , it may be worth contacting Pioneer and swapping it out with them

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**Sowulo** · March 23rd, 2001, 10:53 AM

And it (the drive) has to be compatible with Region 2 (or wherever the Ukraine falls in the encoding scheme of things--Region 1 is the US)....I can't watch movies recorded there and vice-versa...

**Ruslan** · March 23rd, 2001, 11:04 AM

Thanks, Darren for quick response.
DVD ROM dated May 1999, so probably out of warrantee.
Personally I haven't tried it yet under Windoze. Simply I trusted customer I have bought drive from today. I just only tested DVD ROM using DOS and Windoze test program with ordinary CDROM inserted (unfortunatly,I haven't any DVD laying around), but CD - works great!
I was told about "won't work with DVD" (yeah,it may be video DVD - the most of Ukrainian DVD users uses DVDs primarily for video

)
So,I thought, may be it works?
I'm do not familiar with Pioneer DVD-ROMs, and asking for help.
Thanks for firmware update suggestion ,Darren. Really,I did it for my CDwriter and solved problem with 700MB CDRs.

What exactly soft should I use having to check it? Usual CD-DVD video player is enough? or something hardware specific?

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Ruslan Khyzha

**Ruslan** · March 23rd, 2001, 11:16 AM

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sowulo:
And it (the drive) has to be compatible with Region 2 (or wherever the Ukraine falls in the encoding scheme of things--Region 1 is the US)....I can't watch movies recorded there and vice-versa...

</font>

Thanks, Sowulo, for good point. Is there any
way to check Your suggestion? Any util? I think, most of cheap DVDs sold in Ukraine were cracked, pirated and so on...

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Ruslan Khyzha

Darren Wilson · March 23rd, 2001, 11:50 AM

If I remember correctly, the Pioneer DVD-ROM's are region free and rely on the software to set the regions. I cannot find the 113 listed on the Pioneer site, only the 116 (typical), but I would assume it is still the same though (aprat from the obvious speed difference).

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Tupac Shakur
'*****ionz as a Ridah'
All Eyez On Me
CD 1 Track 1.

**Sowulo** · March 23rd, 2001, 12:33 PM

Thanks for the reminder Darren. I don't remember which version of Windows you are running Ruslan. In W2K under Device Manager. My DVD Properties has a tab labeled Advanced Settings under which you can check and set the proper region. I checked and the Ukraine is Region 5. You are only allowed to change the region setting 4 times.

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**Ruslan** · March 23rd, 2001, 01:33 PM

Thanks , Sowulo and Darren!
Weird problem... I just got another DVD ROM for 20$. And guess what? Same model,even same manuf.date, same problem...My brother checked one of them at work, looks like one ...yes, reads DVD, but too slow...about 400kb/sec. Ordinary CDs,even completely scratched "test" CDs,reads excellent,though, even better, than most of new CD-ROMs. May be,though, DVD disk itself was bad...may be...
One of DVDs I have installed in Win2000pro PC,another in Win98SE PC. I let You know about progress...Worst thing,though I might have - is two excellent CDROM readers...

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Ruslan Khyzha

condor · March 23rd, 2001, 05:54 PM

I heard that Pioneer DVD (the 115 model) doesn't work with Intel 815 Chipset..

so if you're using this chipset it's something to consider...

a few other things to try are disabling the UDMA mode for the DVD channel..

using a 40-pin IDE cable

and a firmware update..

http://perso.club-internet.fr/farzeno/firmware/

all that comes to mind right now..

keep us posted..

Hope you find it helpful.

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Ruahrc · March 24th, 2001, 12:56 AM

On the hardware side of things: you said it wouldn't read DVD's? If I remember correctly a different laser is used to read DVD's, so the DVD laser may be bad but the CD laser still good.

Just throwing things out

Ruahrc

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**Ruslan** · March 25th, 2001, 11:09 AM

Ruahrc, yes,I also thought so. But my brother
(CD tech,BTW) didn't find any additional laser inside.

Condor - You're the man! (as always

)
Thanks for link! Now I know, what I have
6x/32x DVD-113 model. So,I have downloaded
updated firmware and going give it a try.
I'll post results.
By the way, lot of DVDs made by Acer,Philips and so on, also based on exactly this(Pioneer)model.

Thanks all!

Ruahrc · March 29th, 2001, 02:34 AM

Just curious now, but your Pioneer DVD's... they wouldn't happen to be slot-loaders would they? If they are please give me a shakedown on the slot-loading design in general:

Reliable?
Quiet?
Functional?
Doesn't eat CD's?

Thanks

Ruahrc

**Ruslan** · March 30th, 2001, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by Ruahrc:
Just curious now, but your Pioneer DVD's... they wouldn't happen to be slot-loaders would they? If they are please give me a shakedown on the slot-loading design in general:

Reliable?
Quiet?
Functional?
Doesn't eat CD's?

Thanks

Ruahrc

No, mine looks like as usual CDROMs

.
Queit? - 32x speed drive? -yes,but only being compared with 52x speed drives

I've seen some Pioneer slot-loading DVDs,though. Although they are looks like reliable enough and functional, but I think high speed slot-loading DVDs are ... too dangerous for life

Guess why?

**Sowulo** · March 30th, 2001, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by Ruslan:
No, mine looks like as usual CDROMs .
Queit? - 32x speed drive? -yes,but only being compared with 52x speed drives

I've seen some Pioneer slot-loading DVDs,though. Although they are looks like reliable enough and functional, but I think high speed slot-loading DVDs are ... too dangerous for life
Guess why?

Yeah, after reading some of the threads about exploding cd's a few months ago, I don't think I would want a slot-loading highspeed skeet launcher sitting in front of me...LOL (Caution. Do not operate without proper safety equipment.)

**KoWind7** · March 30th, 2001, 05:40 PM

I'm not advocating pirating DVD's, or buying them from other regions and doing this, but you can edit the dvd region in the registry. This by-passes any limit that your software may have....

I won't post the registry key, but if you look hard enough...

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