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May 29th, 2002, 09:35 AM
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I've been listening to it for a couple of weeks now, and I dig it alot.
In Opiate's defense, I too think Eminem rocks, and believe that one can find value and/or meaning in his lyrics if one has the patience to listen. Although you can't please everybody I guess.
Although I wager that without Dr. Dre's influence, none of us would be listening to Em much these days.
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May 29th, 2002, 09:44 AM
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Look out, here comes my opinion! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
I think the music we listen to reflects our right brain just as much as the words we read reflect our left. There are a number of measurable elements that define emotional depth and complexity which can come from an analysis of what a person listens too and when.
Nine Inch Nails and Ministry are a couple of my angry music selections. I can't listen to hip hop (and I've really tried). It makes me feel like I'm pretending to be some kind of bada$$. And I don't like that feeling anymore. My need to feel like a bada$$ died in my late teens. But, that's just what it means to me.
I've been on a blues kick for a few years now... and all the music from every David Lynch movie ever made is on my hard drive (Under the Sycamore Tree and Llorando give me chills). Doug Adams recommends Bach's Fugue so after I've worn out Aphex Twin, that's going to be my next experience.
You can't say any music sucks objectively. It means different things to different people at different times (When I was 5 I really loved the Chipmonks).
That being said, subjectively, me theenks the little coated candies have more artistic value.
Deliver me from Swedish furniture!
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May 29th, 2002, 04:37 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by korpse:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by opiate:
<strong>WOW, I'm truly amazed at Em's new album The Eminem Show. It's just as good if not better then his last. Fat beats, raw lyrics....WOW! I thought he lost everything on the D4 project. I'm very impressed and am now a very assured Eminem fan. This guy will be around for awhile. I don't like allot of Hip Hop/Rap but I do like Dr. Dre, Snoop, Jay Z, LL Cool J and a few other's. My favorite music is Rock (please exclude Nickleback, Default, Puddle of Mud). I think you need to have an open mind to really listen to and enjoy music.
Wow, I cannot wait to get off work and go cruising listening to the new Em.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Did you ever hear the MP3 of Eminem winning the rhyming words freestyle competition from before he was known? It is f'en amazing. Lemme know if you've heard it, I'm pretty sure its not copyrighted so if you haven't I'll post a link.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">yeah, that is an amazing feat of lyrical and vocal skill. I've got another cd called "detroit underground 2000" which displays eminem superior rapping skills.
BTW Don't get mad at the older guys, if it doesn't have a guitar, they think it's not musical. Get a grip everyone, music is music.
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May 30th, 2002, 06:38 AM
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I like to think that truly great music transcends all musical labels and boundaries - at least for me it does. I'm no fan of hip hop or country for that matter, but when an album is intelligent and breaks new ground artistically, I can't help but enjoy it.
I pretty much hate rap/hip-hop but am a proud owner of Public Enemy's "fear of a black" planet, arrested developments "3 years 5 days. . . ." lauryn hill's "the miseducation of lauryn hill," and "pauls boutique" from the beastie boys Because all these albums broke new ground, and were intelligent.
Same with country. If you make me listen to a country radio station I'll probably jam blunt objects into my eyes repeatedly. But put on the "O brother where art thou" soundtrack, Dave carter and tracy grammer's "Drum Hat Buddha," or any of the last 3 CASH albums and I'll be quite entertained and enlightened.Great albums / songs transcend any genre or label.
That being said, I just don't get Eminem. Where is the truly unique musical value of it? Sure he has some very nice social and political commentary in his lyrics, but I question the sincerity of it. Especially when he raps about how it's none of our business if two men want to marry, then turns around in interviews and starts tossing around the word FAG.
It seems to all be for shock value. And that's okay. If that's your bag, then fine. But don't prentend to be an artist or have a opinion/belief when you are only saying things because they will offend or shock others.
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May 30th, 2002, 06:51 PM
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I dont like to listen to music where people dont write+play their own music. Singing it is nothing but god given talent. Playing an instrument and writing music/lyrics shows that they have skill and have put in some time and effort.
Its the main reason that I dont listen to pop/rap/country
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